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  • #58,301
  • Edited 5:45pm Sep 4, 2013 4:36pm | Edited 5:45pm
UChf Short Trade: Previously entered short Scouts #1-11, PVSRA qualified. TP is tentative.
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  • #58,302
  • Edited 7:26pm Sep 4, 2013 4:42pm | Edited 7:26pm
Quoting loeil
EA: Closed all 36 components for 10 006 pips. PVSRA ROCKS!!! {image} {image}
EA: Closed all 36 components for 10 006 pips. PVSRA ROCKS!!!

loeil,

Congratulations! You Rock!
And because you did not use a SL, neither the MMs nor the broker could stop you out and keep you from your Harvest Time!

-tah
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  • #58,303
  • Sep 4, 2013 4:45pm Sep 4, 2013 4:45pm
Quoting pamboys09
on 500 dollar account is 2 pair is good to go? for .01 lot?
Quoting FXRobert
{quote} I begin with 500 PLN 0.01 lot. It is ok, but don't adding too many orders. When I see bear or bull start I wait,wait and I add my first order later lower/higher. Patience, patience, patience. I have 2.200 on my account after 2 months
FXRobert says,

"I begin with 500 PLN 0.01 lot. It is ok, but don't adding too many orders. When I see bear or bull start I wait,wait and I add my first order later lower/higher. Patience, patience, patience. I have 2.200 on my account after 2 months" - FX Robert

I say, Robert, that's the way to go!

-tah
  • #58,304
  • Sep 4, 2013 4:50pm Sep 4, 2013 4:50pm
Quoting kdxrider3
{quote} You guys put a big smile on my face... 10K pips in a trade... unheard of a year ago before this experiment began...patient pills, smart $ management, and PVSRA and there are no limits!!!
10K Pips in a Single Trade,....with PVSRA There is No Limit!

"10K pips in a trade... unheard of a year ago before this experiment began...patient pills, smart $ management, and PVSRA and there are no limits!!!" - kdxrider3

Hold your horses! Not so fast! You all have forgotten one very important metric.......

.....if the Trolls continue to flock here, they might eventually get converted. If that happens, together with the way loeil and Msis trades, the MMs might soon run out of money to give to the rest of us PVSRA users!

-tah
  • #58,305
  • Sep 4, 2013 4:52pm Sep 4, 2013 4:52pm
So, what are the components of this system?

It looks like a moving average, and the cloud from ichimoku, to me.

I use thinkorswim, btw.
  • #58,306
  • Sep 4, 2013 5:05pm Sep 4, 2013 5:05pm
Quoting Jason W
So, what are the components of this system? It looks like a moving average, and the cloud from ichimoku, to me. I use thinkorswim, btw.

Post #1, the logical place to start. Read carefully everything therein. Next, read first 25-50 posts by Sonicdeejay. Then jump to April 2013 and read, read, read.
  • #58,307
  • Sep 4, 2013 5:30pm Sep 4, 2013 5:30pm
Wondering.....

When will we see the MMs put into place the run for profits objective of all the YEN pair pumps? Look at EJ for example. Yesterday the bear MMs pushed it up again (as with all of the pairs), but you cannot find the climax candle near the finish of the pump that says they were closing longs into the up push! Why? Because they haven't got any longs to speak of left to close! And, shortly after the push up, there we see the bear sell off climax candle. And now we see the up/down price manipulations here at the highs, typical of the MMs building positions. Ask yourself, if they pushed the price up to build, are they building longs or shorts?

So, when will they get on with their run for profits? .....a couple of JPY high impact releases coming, and the MMs would already have been apprised of their essence.
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  • #58,308
  • Sep 4, 2013 5:47pm Sep 4, 2013 5:47pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} Bull
33 hrs later..

Told cha..

Sonic
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  • #58,309
  • Sep 4, 2013 5:51pm Sep 4, 2013 5:51pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} 33 hrs later.. Told cha.. Sonic {image}

Congratulations master ... but the fundamentals that explain what you saw ...
  • #58,310
  • Sep 4, 2013 5:54pm Sep 4, 2013 5:54pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} 33 hrs later.. Told cha.. Sonic {image}
Sonic,

A pair that easily moves well over 100 pips in a 24 hour period only moved up from an average price of 131.10 to an average price of 131.60 in those 33 hours! That is only a 50 pips average move in more than a day,....almost a day and a half! That is not bullish, not in my opinion anyway. Clearly the MMs are bears and have been pushing up the price over past days in order to attract longs which would provide the liquidity the bear MMs need for their short building.

I am not saying such pushes up can not be traded profitably. They can be. But PVSRA indicates the MMs are bears. And bear MMs do put on bullish PA in order to build their shorts by sucking in longs and by stopping out the shorts of others to get the liquidity they need.

-tah
  • #58,311
  • Edited 7:02pm Sep 4, 2013 6:16pm | Edited 7:02pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Sonic, A pair that easily moves well over 100 pips in a 24 hour period only moved up from an average price of 131.10 to an average price of 131.60 in those 33 hours! That is only a 50 pips average move in more than a day,....almost a day and a half! That is not bullish, not in my opinion anyway. Clearly the MMs are bears and have been pushing up the price over past days in order to attract longs which would provide the liquidity the bear MMs need for their short building. I am not saying such pushes up can not be traded profitably. They...
I agree with ya.

this pair ain't doing much since Monday..

We have big Jpy news coming out.. should move big soon..

Sonic
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  • #58,312
  • Sep 4, 2013 6:22pm Sep 4, 2013 6:22pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Sonic, A pair that easily moves well over 100 pips in a 24 hour period only moved up from an average price of 131.10 to an average price of 131.60 in those 33 hours! That is only a 50 pips average move in more than a day,....almost a day and a half! That is not bullish, not in my opinion anyway. Clearly the MMs are bears and have been pushing up the price over past days in order to attract longs which would provide the liquidity the bear MMs need for their short building. I am not saying such pushes up can not be traded profitably. They...

well stated...
PVSRA as a tool can help traders both long and short term......Sonic is more of a shot-gunner with great accuracy. virtually no Drawdown

building can be done in a number of ways....TAH compares it to seeds and harvesting which is clearly understood..
another way is to compare it to a shotgun blast(1 entry) versus a bb gun with a dozen or more shots...
what would you rather have??? both work... there are a LOT of ways to trade....
I am more of a combo of the two ....my goal is 5% a week on two accounts.... below is a trade I hope plays out well but if not I will do my best to make the best of it by closing, reversing or adding other trades...
We learn as we gooooooo
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Entries in the wicks over and over **PVSRA rules!
  • #58,313
  • Sep 4, 2013 6:23pm Sep 4, 2013 6:23pm
Quoting kdxrider3
{quote} well stated... PVSRA as a tool can help traders both long and short term......Sonic is more of a shot-gunner with great accuracy. virtually no Drawdown building can be done in a number of ways....TAH compares it to seeds and harvesting which is clearly understood.. another way is to compare it to a shotgun blast(1 entry) versus a bb gun with a dozen or more shots... what would you rather have??? both work... there are a LOT of ways to trade.... I am more of a combo of the two ....my goal is 5% a week on two accounts.... below is a trade...
great explanation! At first i was confused on the way both of them trades.. this really clears up alot! thanks!
  • #58,314
  • Edited 7:22pm Sep 4, 2013 6:45pm | Edited 7:22pm
Quoting kdxrider3
{quote} well stated... PVSRA as a tool can help traders both long and short term......Sonic is more of a shot-gunner with great accuracy. virtually no Drawdown building can be done in a number of ways....TAH compares it to seeds and harvesting which is clearly understood.. another way is to compare it to a shotgun blast(1 entry) versus a bb gun with a dozen or more shots... what would you rather have??? both work... there are a LOT of ways to trade.... I am more of a combo of the two ....my goal is 5% a week on two accounts.... below is a trade I hope plays out well but if not I will do my best to make the best of it by closing, reversing or adding other trades... We learn as we gooooooo {image}
Quoting zllz
{quote} great explanation! At first i was confused on the way both of them trades.. this really clears up alot! thanks!
Yep. Sonicdeejay and tah, yin and yang. The Sonic R. System thread: multiple ways to be profitable, something for everyone. One for all and all for one!
  • #58,315
  • Sep 4, 2013 7:52pm Sep 4, 2013 7:52pm
Quoting qFish
{quote} UJ: Added Ep 27 & 28 in consolidation price ranging. See my analysis. {image}
UJ: Ep 29 & 30 Added. Rising wedge. BEARish shorting after pumps.
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insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #58,316
  • Sep 4, 2013 7:53pm Sep 4, 2013 7:53pm
Quoting qFish
UChf: 18 short scouts opened. MM's have pushed price to next historic SR level .94. The previous test did not make it. Maybe this time. Right now there is resistance at the .80 level. Here we are at best prices for shorting. {image}
UChf: Ep 19 added.
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  • #58,317
  • Sep 4, 2013 7:55pm Sep 4, 2013 7:55pm
Quoting qFish
{quote} AU: MM's push price up for more shorting targeting the next historic SR level, which is our strong area of resistance. Added short EP #7-13 along the way up. M1 analysis says all. MM still BEARs. {image} {image}
AU: Ep 14 triggered. The first test didn't quite make it. So now they've re-tested it to hit this SR level. BEARs short at higher prices.
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  • #58,318
  • Sep 4, 2013 7:59pm Sep 4, 2013 7:59pm
Quoting loeil
EA: Closed all 36 components for 10 006 pips. PVSRA ROCKS!!! {image} {image}
K I L L E R Trade man! Kudos! 277 Pips/trade, just... wow.
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #58,319
  • Sep 4, 2013 8:07pm Sep 4, 2013 8:07pm
NJ Short Trade: Entered short #1, Classic setup, but with Dragon sort of flat and before London session. There was just a JPY release and another is coming, so the MMs might push this back up to add better shorts. On the other hand, they might not. So I decided to start this trade here, with the Classic setup entry. If the bear MMs push the price up enough more, I will add more. Note that the price is already above the RWH mark and the bear MMs have been pushing up the YEN pairs for days. No TP set yet.
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  • #58,320
  • Sep 4, 2013 9:13pm Sep 4, 2013 9:13pm
SEK-JPY Ep#1 Scout Trade Short at 15.11 I rarely trade this pair.... Spread is a bit high
GBP-JPY EP#2 Scout trade Short 155.94
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