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  • #57,921
  • Aug 30, 2013 11:04am Aug 30, 2013 11:04am
EU: Speculative run and building in the next two weeks. Approximating from the previous leg down. Our target is could be a quad-bottom as we test strong support SR 1.28. However, there are many smaller roadblocks on the way but I think the next two weeks could be very exciting for EU. My plan is to add with the trend at quarter SR levels. I gotta keep my fingers off the trigger! However, I'll still be under my 20 scout limit per pair! Got pending orders on both sides to sustain the whipsaws. Go EU Go! (Even though we are winding down for the weekend! lol)

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  • #57,922
  • Aug 30, 2013 11:07am Aug 30, 2013 11:07am
Quoting feinan
there is a stop sign on YEN pairs, isnt it ? let see what happen next week... By the way i have gained 8000ish pips this 3 days, 90% increased from initial deposit. Thank you tah and sonic for the Holy Grail! {image}
Super!
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  • #57,923
  • Edited 11:40am Aug 30, 2013 11:14am | Edited 11:40am
Quoting traderathome
EJ: The LO MMs sold off! Now they have pushed the price back up. Too soon to tell that the pushes up are finished because the US open might do so. Nevertheless, this is bearish. Note the Dragon is waving downwards now. So is the Trend Line. And the significant PA is now starting to shift to below mid-range (130.00) instead of at it and above it, as has been the previous case. Were it not for the possibility the US MMs might push price up, I'd say this is close to setting up for the second SonicR Classic short of the day. {image}
EJ:

Told cha!......

The price was pushed up higher, and the next Classic short setup was good for 60ish pips!

Of course, the MMs are pushing it back up,....again! This is a conclusive sign the MMs have this scheduled for serious downside because they are continuously Pumping and Dumping (Distributing/Accumulating shorts) ahead of their planned run for profits. And not just EJ, but YEN pairs in general.
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  • #57,924
  • Aug 30, 2013 11:19am Aug 30, 2013 11:19am
I have gradually closed some of my trades on the USD to reduce my position size, but I am still betting on the USD as classic entries present themselves. The dollar has not even hit its August high from the beginning of the month. With the big revision up in GDP I think it will be good to bet on the dollar going into next week's NFP release and next month's FOMC meeting.

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  • #57,925
  • Aug 30, 2013 11:33am Aug 30, 2013 11:33am
UCad: In just 10 minutes, high volatility shows that after an immediate drive up above Half SR level, HEAVY shorting indicates BEARs MM not only collect shorts at this higher price, but also sold so heavy it spiked down to take out previous long stops below. H1 shows this cycle repeating again. Covert? Not at all. As they spike it down, they probably also bought to continue driving it up the next cycle for more long profits and short building. It's a mixture of the two, and the higher TF with lower TF will aid us in how to read them.

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  • #57,926
  • Aug 30, 2013 11:47am Aug 30, 2013 11:47am
Tah, what do you think about NU?

I opened a few long positions based PVSRA and I think that the price has reached bottom. But a little confused by the fall of the UC and the impact on other pairs associated with usd. Use your signals I achieved great success in several weeks 400% risk associated with a lot of pressure on the deposit I made ​​up for hedging. But do not want to unconsciously follow your signals, and make decisions for myself.
I would like to hear your opinion about NU thanks in advance, and sorry for my english.
And I want to express my appreciation for all that you do for other traders and for me personally.
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  • #57,927
  • Aug 30, 2013 11:49am Aug 30, 2013 11:49am
UCad: Exited Trade with 128.6 pips over 9 trades for profit. Not great per trade, but taking it and resuming the build as I add my first short scout again for re-entry.

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  • #57,928
  • Edited 12:00pm Aug 30, 2013 11:49am | Edited 12:00pm
Quoting qFish
UCad: In just 10 minutes, high volatility shows that after an immediate drive up above Half SR level, HEAVY shorting indicates BEARs MM not only collect shorts at this higher price, but also sold so heavy it spiked down to take out previous long stops below. H1 shows this cycle repeating again. Covert? Not at all. As they spike it down, they probably also bought to continue driving it up the next cycle for more long profits and short building. It's a mixture of the two, and the higher TF with lower TF will aid us in how to read them. {image}
qFish,

Yeah, the MMs are sneaky snakes in the grass, alright. Next week being short and culminating with NPF, well it is anybody's guess what they will do. Want a guess? My guess is they will do nothing spectacular at all. They will devote the time to more of their up/down cycling of prices that gives them the environment they need to continue position building. They won't initiate any substantial runs for profits until after the first week of September. That is my guess. But, while guessing can be fun, in the end it is a hogwash waste of time.

Of course, we can know if they are bulls or bears most of the time, and even though we cannot know how they will move price, we can use that information to trade wisely. During such times as PVSRA becomes less clear, maybe showing spots of both bulls and bears, that is a PVSRA indication in itself and that it is time to draw back from trading until ongoing PVSRA resumes indications that are consistent. Today, I entered UChf short with conflicting PVSRA indications, but my own "logical" reason for that. The trade went nowhere and I closed it for nominal gain. It was just a waste of time.

This is not a game of trying to be picking the extreme highs and lows. It is, as you have pointed out numerous times in various ways, a game of determining based on bulls or bears the best places in swings to be building one way or the other.

And sometimes we have to stop and wait for a subsequent resumption of consistent PVSRA indications.
  • #57,929
  • Aug 30, 2013 12:08pm Aug 30, 2013 12:08pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AU Short Trade: Added shorts #2-4, Scouts based on M1 PVSRAs. Adjusted TP. {image}
AU Short Trade: Closed all four components for 240 pips gain. Just a bit of Harvesting so that next week I will have new boxes of fresh seeds for planting, as I suspect that is all the MMs are going to be doing themselves next week. Just a guess. No loss if it turns out otherwise because either way there will be new opportunities for planting and I will be ready for those opportunities.
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  • #57,930
  • Aug 30, 2013 12:15pm Aug 30, 2013 12:15pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} qFish, Yeah, the MMs are sneaky snakes in the grass, alright. Next week being short and culminating with NPF, well it is anybody's guess what they will do. Want a guess? My guess is they will do nothing spectacular at all. They will devote the time to more of their up/down cycling of prices that gives them the environment they need to continue position building. They won't initiate any substantial runs for profits until after the first week of September. That is my guess. But, while guessing can be fun, in the end it is a hogwash waste of...
Well said Tah,

Not trading in conflicting times are indeed a trading skill in itself. Sometimes we see profit in front of us, why not take it? We don't have anything to lose but a re-entry to build more, which we were in for in the first place. Exposure is an important concept we all should grasp and learn to wield properly. Man, we can write a book with all our knowledge! But I guess that's why we have this thread with over 50,000 posts, I mean WTHeck! If I was in your shoes, I would have done the same. One of the reason why I closed my UCad and re-entered with a single scout. Now I have more firepower and hindsight to space my positions better. PVSRA is rediculously awesome and easy trading (as in stress free). Even in drawdown, I feel no pain (probably b/c I never went above 20%), but your advice for trading the lightest is to thank! And I wouldn't trade any other way. When our account becomes bigger, and we scale up our scouts so that our max DD would still be what's manageable, we will then be making big bank that is sustainable. I feel very comfortable now, with 4k account and trading around 50-80 scouts on 4 pairs. In fact, I don't know how you manage more than 4 pairs! Haha. Well, this week has been quite a good week. Finally got out of my over traded EU and now back and active in the game. Feels good. And so the diamond is further refined with all of us combined (I didn't mean for that to be poetic, ). Never thought trading could be so relax.

Cheers,
-qFish
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #57,931
  • Aug 30, 2013 12:17pm Aug 30, 2013 12:17pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AJ Short Trade: This week I also added short Scouts #9 - #12, each PVSRA based as MMs pushed price to the tops of their various pushes up. {image}
AJ Short Trade: Closed all 21 components for 3,507 pips gain. I added #13-21 subsequent to last post. These were Scouts and qualified with PVSRA. As with other recently closed trades, I am simply Harvesting a bit now because I anticipate next week will be more planting by the MMs, nothing more, and that better opportunities for new planting might occur.
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  • #57,932
  • Aug 30, 2013 12:23pm Aug 30, 2013 12:23pm
Update on my AU,NU and UC.
As i said, AU and NU is only for a short trade, supposedly before the LO but unfortunately i went to a movie with my beloved wife, when i came back check my trade it already go back down, so my reluctance to close it hoping that it will go back up, caused me to be back on negative DD.....
With UC i'm still holding my position until i get at BE. Well, this will be a very very long wait again......i need my patience pill.
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  • #57,933
  • Edited 12:47pm Aug 30, 2013 12:29pm | Edited 12:47pm
Quoting qFish
{quote} Well said Tah, Not trading in conflicting times are indeed a trading skill in itself. Sometimes we see profit in front of us, why not take it? We don't have anything to lose but a re-entry to build more, which we were in for in the first place. Exposure is an important concept we all should grasp and learn to wield properly. Man, we can write a book with all our knowledge! But I guess that's why we have this thread with over 50,000 posts, I mean WTHeck! If I was in your shoes, I would have done the same. One of the reason why I closed my...
qFish,

Here is how I manage. I continue to trade the same size as I started with. I feel relaxed and free to utilize more of idle monies by adding to trades or opening trades when I perceive the opportunity is good to do so, based on PVSRA.

By doing this, in less than eight months this particular account has increased thirteen fold. I have not been greedy by increasing trade size. I have simply utilized newly banked monies, putting them to work also at appropriate times. This is nothing more than taking some of the Harvest and converting to more seeds, and then planting them to expand the field and the future Harvest.

Yes, I can foresee that at some point it might make sense to increase the size of the trades. But I will be frank, I feel more and more at ease and more and more relaxed with trading as time goes on, just knowing that my reserves of Commando Scouts is expanding and itching for action. Maybe the kind of action that turns a Black Swan into a Golden Eagle! Not that I wish for an event, but that I am ever improving my readiness for one by developing the good habit of not getting greedy and careless.

Increasing trade size will be the next step in the evolution of PVSRA for me. It won't be taken lightly, nor anytime soon. Maybe when this particular account has increased twenty fold.

-tah
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  • #57,934
  • Aug 30, 2013 12:47pm Aug 30, 2013 12:47pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} The next time you plan on a trade, post it pre-entry and with your analysis. Then we can help you. You came here many months ago and this is only your second post, the first one being: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...07#post6366607 I do hope you have spent the time reading this thread.
you cant even answer my first question. -_-
reading all this thread? are you sick?
It's hard to identify the relevant information from irrelevant one.
coz Sonic indicator was so popular here. Sorry I'm lazy to browse all this thread.
besides, you even answer my query then. why browse? Am I right senior?
  • #57,935
  • Edited 1:15pm Aug 30, 2013 1:01pm | Edited 1:15pm
Quoting faststare08
I have plenty unlucky trade with sonic. can you explained to me the rule of volume for this trading system? thank you.
Quoting traderathome
{quote} The next time you plan on a trade, post it pre-entry and with your analysis. Then we can help you. You came here many months ago and this is only your second post, the first one being: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...07#post6366607 I do hope you have spent the time reading this thread.
Quoting faststare08
{quote} you cant even answer my first question. -_- reading all this thread? are you sick? It's hard to identify the relevant information from irrelevant one. coz Sonic indicator was so popular here. Sorry I'm lazy to browse all this thread. besides, you even answer my query then. why browse? Am I right senior?
faststare08,

This is your third post here and not a very polite one at that.

You visited here Jan. 15, 2013, the same day you joined Forex Factory. Then you posted again on Aug. 21, 2013, more than seven months later! I advised you to start reading as anyone else must when they come here, because your question was already answered. I also advised you to post your trades so you could be helped.

We do not spoon feed babies here. Furthermore, you seem not to be interested in being a Sonicer having not answered your own question by delving into the material here during your first seven months, and having not provided any evidence whatsoever that you have ever made a single trade! I get the distinct impression that you just want free information. Maybe, since you seem to be interested in folks that code EAs, you are trying to package the works of others so you can sell it as your own? Who knows?

Anyway, you are welcome here and to partake of all the information already provided. Just don't expect us to spoon feed it to you. And, if you are an honest person, and honestly want help, then post your trades or proposed trades, with your analysis, and then someone here might comment on it to help you. Otherwise, if you are too lazy to invest your time to read, think and learn, or if you are trying to package our work and sell it as your own, then go away because you will find no help here.

-tah
  • #57,936
  • Aug 30, 2013 1:08pm Aug 30, 2013 1:08pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} faststare08, You visited here Jan. 15, 2013, the same day you joined Forex Factory. Then you posted again on Aug. 21, 2013, more than seven months later! I have forgotten the question you asked then, but I do recall advising you to start reading as anyone else must when they come here, because your question, whatever it was, was already answered. We do not spoon feed babies here. Furthermore, you seem not to be interested in being a Sonicer having not answered your own question by delving into the material here during your first seven months....
I have been visit the forexfactory roughly a year ago, I register as a member to clarify things about your trading. I don't expect spoon feed though. plus I don't like EA because its traders fail. I want to hone my trading skills since I posted with your thread but I disappointed because you kept posting your past trades. and you cannot entertained newbie.
I just post to clarify about higher lower and lower high. its seems its hard to identify it.
VSA volume too. its hard to use. -_-
  • #57,937
  • Aug 30, 2013 1:11pm Aug 30, 2013 1:11pm
Quoting RuslanHowp
Tah, what do you think about NU? I opened a few long positions based PVSRA and I think that the price has reached bottom. But a little confused by the fall of the UC and the impact on other pairs associated with usd. Use your signals I achieved great success in several weeks 400% risk associated with a lot of pressure on the deposit I made ​​up for hedging. But do not want to unconsciously follow your signals, and make decisions for myself. I would like to hear your opinion about NU thanks in advance, and sorry for my english. And I...
Tah, it seems to me you have not noticed my post, very interested in your opinion.
  • #57,938
  • Aug 30, 2013 1:23pm Aug 30, 2013 1:23pm
Quoting faststare08
{quote} I have been visit the forexfactory roughly a year ago, I register as a member to clarify things about your trading. I don't expect spoon feed though. plus I don't like EA because its traders fail. I want to hone my trading skills since I posted with your thread but I disappointed because you kept posting your past trades. and you cannot entertained newbie. I just post to clarify about higher lower and lower high. its seems its hard to identify it. VSA volume too. its hard to use. -_-
faststare08,

PVSRA is not VSA.! Not by a long shot. PVSRA is so far advanced and more effective than VSA, it isn't even funny!

Again, I suggest you start reading and begin with Post #1 and all the material linked therein, including the PVSRA PDF by jackywang5. Then, start reading all of posts since April 1, 2013 that relate to PVSRA, both trade posts and comment posts. PVSRA is an in-work project and so you will have to absorb this information just like all the rest of us Sonicers have had to absorb it.

There have been more than enough posted trades relating to PVSRA for you to have a working grasp of it by now, so I can only conclude you do not take the time to read them, study them, and think about them. If you cannot do this, or will not do this, then there is nothing more I can say to help you. It has all already been said. Take it or leave it.

-tah
  • #57,939
  • Aug 30, 2013 1:25pm Aug 30, 2013 1:25pm
Quoting RuslanHowp
{quote} Tah, it seems to me you have not noticed my post, very interested in your opinion.
@senor howp, dont expect to be spoon feed according to TAH. because she/he is busy with writing his trade this thread. he/she cant entertained newbie questions too. he/she is pro trader and popular here now. he/she is no longer share his knowledge with newbie.
I'm very disappointed.
  • #57,940
  • Aug 30, 2013 1:29pm Aug 30, 2013 1:29pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} faststare08, PVSRA is not VSA.! Not by a long shot. PVSRA is so far advanced and more effective than VSA, it isn't even funny! Again, I suggest you start reading and begin with Post #1 and all the material linked therein, including the PVSRA PDF by jackywang5. Then, start reading all of posts since April 1, 2013 that relate to PVSRA, both trade posts and comment posts. PVSRA is an in-work project and so you will have to absorb this information just like all the rest of us Sonicers have had to absorb it. There have been more than enough posted...
I'm pointing out is your SONIC VSA. I take long when its green but price had free fall.
do you cancelling out your classic SONIC and replacing the PVSRA?
I don't PVSRA because its still complicated for me yet. I just want to trade with classic SONIC but ignore me.
-_-
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