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  • #57,701
  • Aug 28, 2013 9:38am Aug 28, 2013 9:38am
Quoting sonicdeejay
EJ possible sign of bottom with 130 as support..

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Told cha..

I took TP @ 130.4x

Sonic

P.S> Possibly we are the only thread that show LIVE trades with before and after result.. Thx to Prof TAH too...
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  • #57,702
  • Aug 28, 2013 9:41am Aug 28, 2013 9:41am
EUR-USD Short Closed 56. 3 Pips
Looking for another Short Setup......
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  • #57,703
  • Aug 28, 2013 9:49am Aug 28, 2013 9:49am
UCad Comment

You can see that the US MMs initially pushed the price down and then traded heavily. Then they continued to buy, causing the price to rise. Now they have pushed price down again, and are keeping it there while trading some more. This is the up/down etc. pattern of position building by the MMs. There isn't yet a PA wave for a London session long entry, but this does look like controlled accumulation by the MMs. Of course, the significant move will be when the price breaks the upper whole SR area. With more USD releases tomorrow, the MMs might linger on any significant breakout upwards and use time to continue accumulation, which could also provide more long Scout opportunities for position builders. They could take the price lower as part of their price manipulation to accumulate longs. We can never know for sure how they will move the price, so all we can do is to use PVSRA to determine if they are bulls or bears, and then use that information wisely in our trading.
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  • #57,704
  • Edited 11:12am Aug 28, 2013 10:23am | Edited 11:12am
PVSRA, YEN Pairs: Bulls or Bears?

Using EJ as an example, we have seen yesterday and today how the MMs pushed price up, added shorts, and continued to sell causing the price to come right back down again. Other YEN pairs are now also being pushed up by the MMs so they can add better priced shorts. The MMs do not always move all related pairs in the same manner at the same time, because they like to be not so transparent as to what they are doing. The bottom line is that PVSRA indicates the MMs are bears on the YEN pairs, and they are "distributing", or to put it another way, they are accumulating shorts.

This M15 chart for EJ demonstrates that even after the Pump & Dump manipulation yesterday by the MMs, they are still after shorts. Here they pushed price up thru the half SR to add shorts. Later, they again pushed the price up (the US MMs this time) followed by a heavy sell off.

Across the board on YEN pairs, the MMs are showing renewed vigor in their quest for shorts, which is why such as GJ, and others to a lesser extent, have had their prices pushed back up by the MMs. It makes me wonder if there is to be some "news" (which the MMs already have the essence of) coming (Before the close Friday? This weekend? Next week?) that has the MMs salivating so much over getting more shorts.

These price hikes could offer good Commando Scout insertion opportunities, but do your own on-going M1 PVSRA to confirm. You can see a superb M1 PVSRA bear indication on the attached GJ M1 chart! Here, the bear MMs pushed the price up well over 100 pips to get it to where they wanted to do some concentrated shorting! But, they were undoubtedly shorting all the way up, as they sucked in longs and stopped out other shorts.
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  • #57,705
  • Aug 28, 2013 10:36am Aug 28, 2013 10:36am
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA, YEN Pairs: Bulls or Bears? Using EJ as an example, we have seen yesterday and today how the MMs pushed price up, added shorts, and continued to sell causing the price to come right back down again. Other YEN pairs are now also being pushed up by the MMs so they can add better priced shorts. The MMs do not always move all related pairs in the same manner at the same time, because they like to be not so transparent as to what they are doing. The bottom line is that PVSRA indicates the MMs are bears on the YEN pairs, and they are "distributing",...
Well, tah you have finally dropped the dragon from your chart. That is a good thing, as you have dropped the pretense that your system has anything to do with Sonic R. Now all you have to do is cut the umbilical cord, and viola, you're all grown up!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #57,706
  • Aug 28, 2013 11:03am Aug 28, 2013 11:03am
Quoting hansma
{quote} Mine too H. {image}

Took profit at swing low for nice profit.

Added again at same area

H.
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  • #57,707
  • Aug 28, 2013 11:05am Aug 28, 2013 11:05am
Hello Sonicer's, after studing PVRSA and realizing that I had been applying it reversely (entering on high volumes) I have finally started to grasp an understanding. Just from trades last night i am 156+ Pips with 60+ floating. Here is a good view on GU

After a short move the MM's pushed the price back up with trading still increasing on the highs. I am waiting for a decent PA wave to enter short positions.

I hope to contribute more as I learn the ins and outs of trading with PVRSA. Cheers!!
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  • #57,708
  • Edited 12:29pm Aug 28, 2013 11:59am | Edited 12:29pm
PVSRA, AU: Bulls or Bears?

Twice today the MMs stopped the drop around the lower whole number SR area. In the latter part of the London session the MMs did the best push up on the price, with high activity well into the push up and afterwards, as they leveled the price off around the FR 50% retrace of the most recent leg of the inter-day swing down. You can see that this is an established SR area.

With PVSRA on lower TFs, it is easy to see the MMs remain bears. Not surprisingly, the MMs are also bears on EU and GU, so there is consistency here.

Both an AUD and later a USD high impact release are coming. It makes sense the bear MMs will hike the price ahead of them. Such "news" is not often something the MMs do not already have the essence of, so they manipulate prices to their advantage. In this case, the push up in price by the MMs very likely means more downside is coming, maybe along with EU and GU downside. Understand, this is all speculation, even if PVSRA indications support it.

Personally, I am stalking this for a short entry above the half SR. If I make such an entry, and the MMs push the price higher, I intend to add shorts appropriately spaced so long as PVSRA continues to indicate the MMs are bears. It might take some time before the MMs push the price up thru the half SR. By delaying, they get all impatient shorters on-board before the push up, and this means they will have less competition for available shorting liquidity at the better prices once they do make the push. I'm patient.

Continue to take money from the MMs, Sonicers, because they are trying to take it from you. It is not a level playing field. They have the advantages. So, don't feel badly about turning the tables on them with PVSRA.

Hope This Helps,
-tah

P.S.: Another freebie for the orphan Trolls.
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  • #57,709
  • Aug 28, 2013 12:59pm Aug 28, 2013 12:59pm
Closed all following pairs for 10k (pips) 967euros. (0.01 lot per trade)

All of which have been opened 1 week ago.

Total gain with PVSRA so far 970K pips - 9701 Euro with starting capital of 1000 euro and 0.01 lot trading.

Current DD 18k pips (1800 euro)

Total time trading with PVSRA 45 days!
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There is no spoon....
  • #57,710
  • Aug 28, 2013 1:03pm Aug 28, 2013 1:03pm
Quoting Msis125125
Closed all following pairs for 10k (pips) 967euros. (0.01 lot per trade) {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Nice trades MSIS
Creditors have better memories than debtors.
  • #57,711
  • Aug 28, 2013 1:04pm Aug 28, 2013 1:04pm
Quoting Msis125125
Closed all following pairs for 10k (pips) 967euros. (0.01 lot per trade) {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
A King's Champion!

Msis,

Ten thousand pips gained!
Killer Trader! More than capable of besting the Black Knight Trolls!

Sending you some extra squires to polish up your PVSRA armor, compliments of the realm.
  • #57,712
  • Aug 28, 2013 1:14pm Aug 28, 2013 1:14pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} A King's Champion! Msis, Ten thousand pips gained! Killer Trader! More than capable of besting the Black Knight Trolls! Sending you some extra squires to polish up your PVSRA armor, compliments of the realm.
Thank you, you are far too kind!

Actually I have found that playing MINECRAFT and trading getting better results!

So that thing with realms and knight is about right.

Still have EU UC GU EU EG running. Planning to get around 50K (pips out of them)
There is no spoon....
  • #57,713
  • Aug 28, 2013 1:59pm Aug 28, 2013 1:59pm
Super Star
Quoting Msis125125
Closed all following pairs for 10k (pips) 967euros. (0.01 lot per trade) All of which have been opened 1 week ago. Total gain with PVSRA so far 970K pips - 9701 Euro with starting capital of 1000 euro and 0.01 lot trading. Current DD 18k pips (1800 euro) Total time trading with PVSRA 45 days! {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Super Star
back to square no one , over trading is my sin , never get the lesson
  • #57,714
  • Aug 28, 2013 2:15pm Aug 28, 2013 2:15pm
Quoting Msis125125
Closed all following pairs for 10k (pips) 967euros. (0.01 lot per trade) All of which have been opened 1 week ago. Total gain with PVSRA so far 970K pips - 9701 Euro with starting capital of 1000 euro and 0.01 lot trading. Current DD 18k pips (1800 euro) Total time trading with PVSRA 45 days! {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Damn... nice!
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #57,715
  • Aug 28, 2013 2:28pm Aug 28, 2013 2:28pm
Quoting Msis125125
Closed all following pairs for 10k (pips) 967euros. (0.01 lot per trade) All of which have been opened 1 week ago. Total gain with PVSRA so far 970K pips - 9701 Euro with starting capital of 1000 euro and 0.01 lot trading. Current DD 18k pips (1800 euro) Total time trading with PVSRA 45 days! {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Outstanding! Really happy for you Msis, u deserve it

Just for curiosity, what was your biggest DD? Because you open a lot of trades and your bankroll management is more aggressive that I thought. Again, I'm just curious.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #57,716
  • Aug 28, 2013 2:43pm Aug 28, 2013 2:43pm
Hi Sonicer.
I Just blowed an $1000 account last week and just loaded another $1000 on Tuesday.

Using SonicR and PVSRA i have gained 2000pips overnight and the DD was only 3%!!!.

Still have some open trades at the moment, aiming 5000pips this week hopefully i can achieve..
Thank you masters!
t.me/LWBRfx Discord.io/LWBR
  • #57,717
  • Aug 28, 2013 2:47pm Aug 28, 2013 2:47pm
Quoting Msis125125
Closed all following pairs for 10k (pips) 967euros. (0.01 lot per trade) All of which have been opened 1 week ago. Total gain with PVSRA so far 970K pips - 9701 Euro with starting capital of 1000 euro and 0.01 lot trading. Current DD 18k pips (1800 euro) Total time trading with PVSRA 45 days! {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Congratulations!

The Trolls go crazy with envy .... hahaha
Sorry my bad English - My native language is Portuguese-BR
  • #57,718
  • Aug 28, 2013 3:29pm Aug 28, 2013 3:29pm
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Outstanding! Really happy for you Msis, u deserve it Just for curiosity, what was your biggest DD? Because you open a lot of trades and your bankroll management is more aggressive that I thought. Again, I'm just curious.
MAX DD WAS 40% of the capital is has happened when I had 5k, and EURAUD went south on me big time. Rest is always managed in around 10-15% DD from the capital!
There is no spoon....
  • #57,719
  • Aug 28, 2013 3:35pm Aug 28, 2013 3:35pm
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA, AU: Bulls or Bears? Twice today the MMs stopped the drop around the lower whole number SR area. In the latter part of the London session the MMs did the best push up on the price, with high activity well into the push up and afterwards, as they leveled the price off around the FR 50% retrace of the most recent leg of the inter-day swing down. You can see that this is an established SR area. With PVSRA on lower TFs, it is easy to see the MMs remain bears. Not surprisingly, the MMs are also bears on EU and GU, so there is consistency here....
prof. tah, I would argue with your analysis of AU, as I see bulls because there are price hikes below s/r numbers with higher volume and as far as I learned it means that clearly MM's are bull.

As you said before MM's might not want consistency between currency pairs (you told that about YEN) as they gather more shorts on USD pairs, but for now, and for AU it's bull signs giving them, on longer term, opportunity to go short here on even higher prices.

The second point is about todays session, when GU and EU got lower, AU remain and even gain, what should give you profit on other trades like EA, which you currently have open, if it goes my way.

I have opened position on AU about the same time as JRissa, but he didn't keep it because of stop loss. Since then my point of view hasn't changed and as geopolitical issue, I think that going against USD, as a hedge, is good move until situation stabilize.
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  • #57,720
  • Aug 28, 2013 4:00pm Aug 28, 2013 4:00pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} Told cha.. I took TP @ 130.4x Sonic P.S> Possibly we are the only thread that show LIVE trades with before and after result.. Thx to Prof TAH too... {image} {image} {image}
Thats right master Sonic, you, tah as well other submitters are brave in doing this despite trolls.
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