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  • #829,701
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:36am Aug 27, 2013 11:36am
I would like to think that the move up for EURUSD was very technical as illustrated in my charts below.

Circled zone in 15M chart is very very clustered with many places of interest.
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  • #829,702
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:36am Aug 27, 2013 11:36am
Quoting openyoureyes
{quote} I trade manually, wrote this here 1000 times 4 eyes on 2 screens I hedge with multiple accounts, margin level %300 no problemo I can carry this to 1,42 got your insta-reply ? + I did this professionally before / it was stocks but the same sh1t
inverting and and trading are different , you have to know who you are , if your are a trader kill the bad one and water greens

s/l have 2 face
1. stopping a trader from loss (already lost)
2 . it's a loss
Mohan
  • #829,703
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:36am Aug 27, 2013 11:36am
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} Can I ask what assets you are hedging with? FX hedging is super complex (admittedly I'm quite a beginner in this regard) I see some hedges with bonds and options but what are you doing?
I can do simple hedging because my capital is very low.

For example I have %50 lot size of my same but diff direction trades in another account with same lev. / same capital

Thats the benefit of having low capital / high risk trades
  • #829,704
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:38am Aug 27, 2013 11:38am
Quoting Ken A
{quote} There's larger force inplay - fear and safety.
You said !​
Per aspera ad astra
  • #829,705
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:39am Aug 27, 2013 11:39am
Quoting zolo
{quote} Hello man. Sorry for bother you, but what is behind your EU short positions. Why do you believe it will go down? Thanks.
Just holding because I can, I have the time and patience to wait...

Also don't want to close...
  • #829,706
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:40am Aug 27, 2013 11:40am
Quoting openyoureyes
{quote} who is Gatorinla anyway? he is the master? we are all on the same road... I have done years of reading, all MTA stuff...
He is a nobody, just like me and you. But we can learn from one another. Hedging the same pair makes absolutely no sense as you are only paying more spread or commissions and holding onto a trade when you can have a clean slate to re-enter the market. Isn't that true regardless of how many small accounts you have?
  • #829,707
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:41am Aug 27, 2013 11:41am
Quoting mohan76
{quote} inverting and and trading are different , you have to know who you are , if your are a trader kill the bad one and water greens
Yea, I was an stock analyst for years
I pointed out what to trade, and traders traded those..

Trading for an inst. is just too stressful, I tried that too.
  • #829,708
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:42am Aug 27, 2013 11:42am
Quoting openyoureyes
{quote} I can do simple hedging because my capital is very low. For example I have %50 lot size of my same but diff direction trades in another account with same lev. / same capital Thats the benefit of having low capital / high risk trades
so wait you "hedge" with the same instrument?
  • #829,709
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:43am Aug 27, 2013 11:43am
Quoting kelvinftg
{quote} He is a nobody, just like me and you. But we can learn from one another. Hedging the same pair makes absolutely no sense as you are only paying more spread or commissions and holding onto a trade when you can have a clean slate to re-enter the market. Isn't that true regardless of how many small accounts you have?
Yes it doesn't make any sense if you do it in same broker and same lots..

But I do it on a seperate account / different lots / different spread

I just holding at one, short positions:
Other one scalp / short term / news trade / retracement
  • #829,710
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:44am Aug 27, 2013 11:44am
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} which is why this divergence is here, UST 10 on the highs right now at 2.7470 and yet the dollar is down. Very strange reaction to today's headlines. the correlation between 1 month vol and DXY broke down as well which is peculiar. If we weren't perched on the edge of a potential breakout to the upside, the EUR would be a screaming sell with this type of market dynamic.
30Y not so much. Have a look at GOLD - it's going there other than USD
  • #829,711
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:45am Aug 27, 2013 11:45am
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} so wait you "hedge" with the same instrument?

IN FF hedge mean Opposite trade on same instrument , non us members on same account , us members on different account ,pls don't rise the logical question it may rise flame on this thread
Mohan
  • #829,712
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:46am Aug 27, 2013 11:46am
Ok last message this is.
Farewell
  • #829,713
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:47am Aug 27, 2013 11:47am
Quoting Ken A
{quote} 30Y not so much. Have a look at GOLD - it's going there other than USD
30y's are less important than 10's for FX which are less important that 5's etc etc, the belly of the curve is on the highs so that is USD bullish. Gold is an interesting case as is Oil. Both undoubtedly up for good reasons, but that doesn't really affect the USD. Same as a strong USD wouldn't have affected Gold on a day such as today where it moved for geopol reasons.
  • #829,714
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:47am Aug 27, 2013 11:47am
Quoting openyoureyes
{quote} I can do simple hedging because my capital is very low. For example I have %50 lot size of my same but diff direction trades in another account with same lev. / same capital Thats the benefit of having low capital / high risk trades
I do not see how one can stay profitable in the absolute long run trading this way. It is really weird especially when you do it with the same currency pair which makes no sense.

I doubt your success in it, but I also have doubts on many other things and I'm wrong more times than right. All the best I guess =/
  • #829,715
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:49am Aug 27, 2013 11:49am
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} 30y's are less important than 10's for FX which are less important that 5's etc etc, the belly of the curve is on the highs so that is USD bullish. Gold is an interesting case as is Oil. Both undoubtedly up for good reasons, but that doesn't really affect the USD. Same as a strong USD wouldn't have affected Gold on a day such as today where it moved for geopol reasons.
It definitely affects USD. Money out of bonds into Gold, Crude etc
  • #829,716
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:49am Aug 27, 2013 11:49am
Quoting mohan76
{quote} IN FF hedge mean Opposite trade on same instrument , non us members on same account , us members on different account ,pls don't rise the logical question it may rise flame on this thread
oh, but surely he must realize that this is not hedging, far from in fact. All he is doing is realizing a loss on his trade and merely squaring positions.

I'm literally speechless that this was his "hedging"...
  • #829,717
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:49am Aug 27, 2013 11:49am
Quoting mohan76
{quote} inverting and and trading are different , you have to know who you are , if your are a trader kill the bad one and water greens s/l have 2 face 1. stopping a trader from loss (already lost) 2 . it's a loss
Exactly! Every trader has to learn through the hard way to start using SL or at least have the discipline to close losing trades manually and start all over again. Oh well.
  • #829,718
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:50am Aug 27, 2013 11:50am
Quoting Ken A
{quote} It definitely affects USD. Money out of bonds into Gold, Crude etc
yeah but there has been a lot of money into bonds... Large vols for cash bonds (i.e. generally speaking longer term traders)
  • #829,719
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:55am Aug 27, 2013 11:55am
Quoting mohan76
{quote} IN FF hedge mean Opposite trade on same instrument , non us members on same account , us members on different account ,pls don't rise the logical question it may rise flame on this thread
True, but hedging has a deeper meaning than that. Oh my.. OK, will stop to avoid flames.
  • #829,720
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:55am Aug 27, 2013 11:55am
Quoting kelvinftg
{quote} I do not see how one can stay profitable in the absolute long run trading this way. It is really weird especially when you do it with the same currency pair which makes no sense. I doubt your success in it, but I also have doubts on many other things and I'm wrong more times than right. All the best I guess =/
I said last message but you are still arguing,
I shared my live trade explorer multiple times here.

Best was X/JPY - 4 days - %2500 Return.
I won't contribute in this thread anymore, too much "noise".
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