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  • #829,681
  • Aug 27, 2013 10:39am Aug 27, 2013 10:39am
Quoting Passerby
Still holding 88 showed no supply yet.
Volatility has gone, almost 11 pm here I need to rest. Closed at 92.5. Bye, trade well.
  • #829,682
  • Aug 27, 2013 10:41am Aug 27, 2013 10:41am
Quoting Pip Anon
{quote} Well you cat would be in the green lol. Equities starting to be bought up, dollar may go with it into asian session.

yea she is in green and smiling at me....we will see who will eat today
do whatever the fuck you want to do !
  • #829,683
  • Aug 27, 2013 10:50am Aug 27, 2013 10:50am
Well, I guess German elections will put it down again, or maybe the 6 billion extra cost cutting in the Netherlands. Whichever way, Euro is toast in the end. At these levels I don't dare buy it anymore
  • #829,684
  • Aug 27, 2013 10:59am Aug 27, 2013 10:59am
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} 1,337x has been bought and lead to new highs...odds are in favor of a range before a breakup
I also have something similar in my mind. From your post I think we have similar view about price but slightly different factor which move it. I also think that demand push price up and vice versa, but what I put more emphasis that supply below should weaken significantly before price moves and viceversa. Seems that both works well, it is just a matter of choice and or habbit.

My range is at around 72 below and 1.3415 above. Should sleep now, take care
  • #829,685
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:11am Aug 27, 2013 11:11am
Will it work if we sell at 1.3392 ???
  • #829,686
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:17am Aug 27, 2013 11:17am
Quoting JeremyWS
The Quant model for the EUR (i.e. EURUSD overvalued by 50 pips today) didn't follow higher during the day, watch for a close below 1.3375 {image}
1.3280 so close yet so far
  • #829,687
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:18am Aug 27, 2013 11:18am
I need 15 pip more to break even for 2 days. Hoping for it.
  • #829,688
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:21am Aug 27, 2013 11:21am
Quoting Ken A
{quote} 1.3280 so close yet so far
Yeah I thought we'd get there when we broke 1.3330 but no... Just pushed back into the range so I'm neutral, the quant model is rarely wrong with such large (50pip) divergences on a 1 min chart. Not to say EUR will fall, just UST's may be sold off to bring it close together.
  • #829,689
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:23am Aug 27, 2013 11:23am
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} Yeah I thought we'd get there when we broke 1.3330 but no... Just pushed back into the range so I'm neutral, the quant model is rarely wrong with such large (50pip) divergences on a 1 min chart. Not to say EUR will fall, just UST's may be sold off to bring it close together.
There's larger force inplay - fear and safety.
  • #829,690
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:25am Aug 27, 2013 11:25am
Quoting openyoureyes
{quote} I'm out, holding shorts... hedged with %50 long E/U
Gatorinla explained yesterday on adding to losses which justifies long term trades with a very specific target, and I can see how that works depending on the % of risk involved, with a well calculated SL.

However, your way of trading still continues to baffle and confuse. The fact that you hedged and let your trades run without any SL confirms that you have no idea what you are doing.
  • #829,691
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:27am Aug 27, 2013 11:27am
Quoting Ken A
{quote} There's larger force inplay - fear and safety.
which is why this divergence is here, UST 10 on the highs right now at 2.7470 and yet the dollar is down. Very strange reaction to today's headlines.

the correlation between 1 month vol and DXY broke down as well which is peculiar. If we weren't perched on the edge of a potential breakout to the upside, the EUR would be a screaming sell with this type of market dynamic.
  • #829,692
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:27am Aug 27, 2013 11:27am
Quoting kelvinftg
{quote} Gatorinla explained yesterday on adding to losses which justifies long term trades with a very specific target, and I can see how that works depending on the % of risk involved, with a well calculated SL. However, your way of trading still continues to baffle and confuse. The fact that you hedged and let your trades run without any SL confirms that you have no idea what you are doing.
Happens when short-term traders get caught out and try to turn it into a long-term trade.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #829,693
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:28am Aug 27, 2013 11:28am
Quoting kelvinftg
{quote} Gatorinla explained yesterday on adding to losses which justifies long term trades with a very specific target, and I can see how that works depending on the % of risk involved, with a well calculated SL. However, your way of trading still continues to baffle and confuse. The fact that you hedged and let your trades run without any SL confirms that you have no idea what you are doing.
I trade manually,
wrote this here 1000 times
4 eyes on 2 screens

I hedge with multiple accounts,
margin level %300
no problemo

I can carry this to 1,42

got your insta-reply ?

+

I did this professionally before / it was stocks but the same sh1t
  • #829,694
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:28am Aug 27, 2013 11:28am
Pending short EU @ 1.3410
A good trader follows his rules, but great trader knows when to break them
  • #829,695
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:29am Aug 27, 2013 11:29am
aforementioned Vol vs EUR chart, EURUSD is inverted of course and in purple. Candles are ATM vols
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  • #829,696
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:30am Aug 27, 2013 11:30am
Quoting kelvinftg
{quote} Gatorinla explained yesterday on adding to losses which justifies long term trades with a very specific target, and I can see how that works depending on the % of risk involved, with a well calculated SL. However, your way of trading still continues to baffle and confuse. The fact that you hedged and let your trades run without any SL confirms that you have no idea what you are doing.
Fist question you probably should ask is the position size/leverage then pass the judgement won't be too late
  • #829,697
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:31am Aug 27, 2013 11:31am
Quoting kelvinftg
{quote} Gatorinla explained yesterday on adding to losses which justifies long term trades with a very specific target, and I can see how that works depending on the % of risk involved, with a well calculated SL. However, your way of trading still continues to baffle and confuse. The fact that you hedged and let your trades run without any SL confirms that you have no idea what you are doing.

Time will tell...and so can oye...i think it is a valid play...used by many big players and institutions...maybe one day I learn hw to do it..but i loose oversight to quickly....so I have to keep it simple ....for now
  • #829,698
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:31am Aug 27, 2013 11:31am
Quoting openyoureyes
{quote} I trade manually, wrote this here 1000 times 4 eyes on 2 screens I hedge with multiple accounts, margin level %300 no problemo I can carry this to 1,42 got your insta-reply ? + I did this professionally before / it was stocks but the same sh1t
Can I ask what assets you are hedging with?

FX hedging is super complex (admittedly I'm quite a beginner in this regard) I see some hedges with bonds and options but what are you doing?
  • #829,699
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:31am Aug 27, 2013 11:31am
Quoting kelvinftg
{quote} Gatorinla explained yesterday on adding to losses which justifies long term trades with a very specific target, and I can see how that works depending on the % of risk involved, with a well calculated SL. However, your way of trading still continues to baffle and confuse. The fact that you hedged and let your trades run without any SL confirms that you have no idea what you are doing.
who is Gatorinla anyway?

he is the master?

we are all on the same road...

I have done years of reading,
all MTA stuff...
  • #829,700
  • Aug 27, 2013 11:35am Aug 27, 2013 11:35am
Quoting openyoureyes
shorts: 1,339x 1,332x 1,331x 1,330x adding more shorts between 1,338x-1,335x {image}
Hello man. Sorry for bother you, but what is behind your EU short positions. Why do you believe it will go down? Thanks.
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