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  • #829,001
  • Aug 25, 2013 8:57am Aug 25, 2013 8:57am
Quoting cdndollar
{quote} OK.. Had been trading for many moons now without STIR cures.. IMO too many conflicting tools could make a trader "STIR crazy.."
fair enough, but I presume that you are a retail trader that only looks at FX, if one considers cross asset then no real trader wouldn't use a multitude of assets such as STIRs etc.
  • #829,002
  • Aug 25, 2013 9:03am Aug 25, 2013 9:03am
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} no, its odd that the EUR is up this year, yet the STIR curves suggest the USD should be up a lot against the EUR...
What's the conclusion from that chart
  • #829,003
  • Aug 25, 2013 9:04am Aug 25, 2013 9:04am
Quoting jeremyws
{quote} i've no positions in eurusd... So yeah... The stir curves should be a part of any traders tool (never met a trader who doesn't look at them), the first one was just a bit of fun.


people have been trading fx successful without stir curves even before electronics trading was introduced, i think u only have it cus u can afford it i wont spend a dime on bloomberg while mt4 work like magic
MY OPINION NOT FINANCIAL ADVISE
  • #829,004
  • Aug 25, 2013 9:16am Aug 25, 2013 9:16am
Quoting Ken A
{quote} What's the conclusion from that chart
I'll annotate it
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  • #829,005
  • Aug 25, 2013 9:17am Aug 25, 2013 9:17am
Quoting donfriday
{quote} people have been trading fx successful without stir curves even before electronics trading was introduced, i think u only have it cus u can afford it i wont spend a dime on bloomberg while mt4 work like magic
STIR curves are an element of the credit markets, which historically are the only / main drivers of FX markets.
  • #829,006
  • Aug 25, 2013 9:18am Aug 25, 2013 9:18am
Quoting cdndollar
{quote} not sure what your definition of "real" (or false?) trader is.. but looking at inter-market cross "assets" had serve yours truly quite well for the last 198 moons..
by "real" i meant someone who is a professional ( or if you prefer institutional) trader, not a retail one
  • #829,007
  • Aug 25, 2013 9:24am Aug 25, 2013 9:24am
Quoting jeremyws
{quote} stir curves are an element of the credit markets, which historically are the only / main drivers of fx markets.


thats one reason i vouched you..you have learn so much at ur age 17yrs...u have a brighter future to trade big account...i am just nobody here using supply and demand on mt4 to make a living...
MY OPINION NOT FINANCIAL ADVISE
  • #829,008
  • Aug 25, 2013 9:25am Aug 25, 2013 9:25am
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} by "real" i meant someone who is a professional ( or if you prefer institutional) trader, not a retail one
Hey do not STIR things up let's just assume everyone is the real deal or someone's ego might get hurt
  • #829,009
  • Aug 25, 2013 9:27am Aug 25, 2013 9:27am
Quoting Ken A
{quote} Hey do not STIR things up let's just assume everyone is the real deal or someone ego might get hurt
offending was not my intent, nice pun though
  • #829,010
  • Aug 25, 2013 9:42am Aug 25, 2013 9:42am
Quoting Ken A
{quote} Have any STIR Vs LTIR?
not sure what you mean?
  • #829,011
  • Aug 25, 2013 10:53am Aug 25, 2013 10:53am
Quoting KillerWhale
{quote} Just look at your own indicators, they all show bearish.
Uh, no they don't.

They don't appear to have any great strength at current, but all of them are saying we are still long.

This isn't to say I am taking a position on these charts or indicators, but more so to say that they are all in agreement...

Top to bottom:
RSI showing support and motion to the north.
ADX showing oversold and improving.
MACD is above zero and trigger line is about to enter into the MACD forest.

Not to mention the supported levels on ichimoku...
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  • #829,012
  • Aug 25, 2013 12:09pm Aug 25, 2013 12:09pm
good read here - http://soberlook.com/2013/08/some-ex...f-chicken.html

Nice chart regarding sell side institutions and when they expect tapering. Bear in mind a lot of primary dealers see Septaper likely.
  • #829,013
  • Edited 12:35pm Aug 25, 2013 12:23pm | Edited 12:35pm
Quoting KillerWhale
{quote} Really don't you see the bearish divergence on your own MACD?
Quoting KillerWhale
{quote} Just look at your own indicators, they all show bearish.
Quoting KillerWhale
{quote} Can you explain this? It's clear divergence.
Quoting KillerWhale
{quote} What I have open over the weekend is UCAD 58 and 41 pips+ short even with 11.9 pip weekend spread. and 37 pips EU+ long with weekend spread 10.6. {image}

dude... really...? wtf?
  • #829,014
  • Aug 25, 2013 12:49pm Aug 25, 2013 12:49pm
Quoting donfriday
{quote} why do you trust lagging indicator..even i will trust indicator just 1 will do me fine. on ur chart u have ichimoku, moving average. macd rsi adx...they are both saying different thing = confusion..
I m not confused. all indicators are pointing same thing bullish just u need to understand them what is reading and how it must be taken. to understand an indicator is necessary. how u take its reading is another question.
  • #829,015
  • Aug 25, 2013 12:53pm Aug 25, 2013 12:53pm
Quoting sirji
{quote} I m not confused. all indicators are pointing same thing bullish just u need to understand them what is reading and how it must be taken. to understand an indicator is necessary. how u take its reading is another question.
I have to admit, the chart you posted does show more bias to a downward move, its pretty difficult to spin what you've shown as bullish...
  • #829,016
  • Aug 25, 2013 12:59pm Aug 25, 2013 12:59pm
indicators are lagging, I don't trust them in any way.
  • #829,017
  • Aug 25, 2013 1:18pm Aug 25, 2013 1:18pm
Berlusconi's centre-right party vow to bring down the government

http://t.co/8hFG3QGT6b

So?!?
  • #829,018
  • Aug 25, 2013 1:20pm Aug 25, 2013 1:20pm
Quoting serhat35
Berlusconi's centre-right party vow to bring down the government http://t.co/8hFG3QGT6b So?!?
Political uncertainty would lead to BTP's dropping which could lead to EUR dropping.

in other news, first fx quote of the week comes in unchanged vs. friday. 1.3380/85
  • #829,019
  • Aug 25, 2013 1:32pm Aug 25, 2013 1:32pm
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} Political uncertainty would lead to BTP's dropping which could lead to EUR dropping. in other news, first fx quote of the week comes in unchanged vs. friday. 1.3380/85
I saw this news 20 minutes ago
  • #829,020
  • Aug 25, 2013 1:33pm Aug 25, 2013 1:33pm
Quoting serhat35
{quote} I saw this news 20 minutes ago
it's nothing new, its been known for the past few weeks so its no problem
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