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  • #56,801
  • Aug 19, 2013 5:11am Aug 19, 2013 5:11am
Two words sonicdeejay

YOU ROCK!

Thanks. Amazing system.
Some pursue happiness, others create it.
  • #56,802
  • Aug 19, 2013 5:23am Aug 19, 2013 5:23am
This PA is amazing..more , more long..but I believe..we will need DOWN that is the way should go...
no news, no info and we go UP?? why??
I placed long hedging one..1,3322 and Ok, but my shorts are terrible
  • #56,803
  • Edited 10:52am Aug 19, 2013 5:29am | Edited 10:52am
eurusd 3 dragons

small range bar with high volume.... price drifts higher, mm's are buyers! leave a limit buy order a few pips below the current price, with the s/l under the mm's declared buying interest

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after a slow grind of nothing, buyers stepping up and can get to b/e

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done +3RR

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I'm not sure why people think the MM's are enemies? Use them properly and they can be your friends...

(The other sell order is not sonic or 3 dragons based so not discussed here)
  • #56,804
  • Aug 19, 2013 5:31am Aug 19, 2013 5:31am
Quoting capetown
This PA is amazing..more , more long..but I believe..we will need DOWN that is the way should go... no news, no info and we go UP?? why?? I placed long hedging one..1,3322 and Ok, but my shorts are terrible
What on earth are you going on about. No pic no mention of what pairs your trading? No one here is a mind reader...
  • #56,805
  • Aug 19, 2013 5:32am Aug 19, 2013 5:32am
Quoting capetown
This PA is amazing..more , more long..but I believe..we will need DOWN that is the way should go... no news, no info and we go UP?? why?? I placed long hedging one..1,3322 and Ok, but my shorts are terrible
No idea why they went up but I know what the charts are saying. GU and EUR both had bases building around Fri/Asian session lows. Both had positive reaction higher when the bases were tested.

In EURAUD at 1.4501.
  • #56,806
  • Aug 19, 2013 5:52am Aug 19, 2013 5:52am
Quoting max pain
Ok... I have been reading this thread from the time Sonic started it... initially it didnt interest me, but after PVSRA introduction, I saw the whole "analytic system" in a different light. For those who are locking horns over the draw down of this specific system​.. a few points to be noted on both sides. 1) Sonicdeejay - the creator - uses StopLoss. He finds comfort in doing so and limiting his risk. Thats his method of trading. 2) TAH - PVSRA leader - doesnt use SL, instead uses accumulation of positions and adding positions where he...
max pain,

Your post.

-tah
  • #56,807
  • Aug 19, 2013 6:35am Aug 19, 2013 6:35am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Traders in the US must have two different accounts, but we can hedge.
It still does not solve the problem. Hedging on a single account has the benefit of preventing account wipe. Sure, having two accounts can let me make profit on the other. But it changes nothing with DD for my losing account.
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #56,808
  • Aug 19, 2013 6:35am Aug 19, 2013 6:35am
Still have lots of fire power...i edited this useful check your basket indicator attached for multi-pairs trading and position building.
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  • #56,809
  • Aug 19, 2013 7:12am Aug 19, 2013 7:12am
Potential Classic sonic Short GBP/CHF
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  • #56,810
  • Aug 19, 2013 8:23am Aug 19, 2013 8:23am
Hey TAH,
You know where MM's starts building postions, add scouts is normal.
You say " We never know where MM's running for profit".
English is not my native langugage, sorry.

What if I know area where this bastards ends his building positions. V - volume is tke key?
Area 150--300 pips.
  • #56,811
  • Edited 3:12pm Aug 19, 2013 8:31am | Edited 3:12pm
I got called away before I had time to post this chart, which shows how I view the current action in UJ.....

Considerable buying around 1 & 2, lesser buying ~#3 - check out the tick volume bars - these made up the Lower PVP peak.

No resistance at the 97.00 level and none again at the 97.50 level.

Considerable sustained selling above the 98.00 level #4, creating the upper PVP peak. This was IMO confirmed as Distribution by the high volume spike up to the 98.64 level at #6, the heavy selling up there pushing price right back to the 97.00 area, which held with a little buying at #7, more ~#8 and less ~#9

Today we have seen a higher volume in the green push up to todays' high at the MR 2 level of 98.05, #10, that in itself confirming that again sellers were active in capping prices. I sold half a position off the 1 min Dragon after the 98.00 level failed to hold and will add when (if) price breaks the 15m dragon ....

Edit: I waited for the open of the NYSE when price failed to break today's R 1 level or the 15m Dragon and the 1m / 5m Dragons started to turn up, so I closed for a wash as, at that time, price was not ready to fall and I'm trading what the Dragon's are showing me....

Edit 2: So the second move up to make a higher high also failed and I again sold half a unit after the **00 was broken and the 5m dragon turned south.......that sell was just closed on my limit order at **55 in the push down to the **50 level....
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  • #56,812
  • Aug 19, 2013 10:23am Aug 19, 2013 10:23am
Hello to all of you.
I am still trying to figure out for myself the essence of this trading approach, but with every well-intentioned post, I feel that this is my kind of thinking about trading. Especially forex trading.
BIG THANK YOU, to every single person here, who shares the so called "secrets" of that market, and highlights it a bit and that give us a clue for the upcoming MM's intentions.

I have a difficulties to find the answer of one question though:
We all know that the MM's are manipulative players. They are doing this at so many levels, just to suck up their victims.
The volume that we can see is only a count of orders, and not the actual traded volume. Right ?
How can we be sure that the MM's are not doing something to full us. Something like this:

This is EU where we can clearly see a signal that MM's most probably are BEARS. It is above round S&R and the volume of the red candle is significantly higher than the volume of the others. But what if the actual volume on each candle is manipulated, so to full us.
I put a random digits just to illustrate my example here.
I understand that we should need more than one clue to be sure, but I hope you understand my frears here.


Or even worse if that pump up the volume below round S&R. If thay do this realy often do we have a way to find the right intensions.
Hope you have the answer for that casus.
Thank you once again.
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  • #56,813
  • Aug 19, 2013 10:50am Aug 19, 2013 10:50am
Any of you guys still holding onto your eurusd shorts? Better think twice cause there is a high possibility that it's going to go even higher Blindly follow 'your master' adding yet more unnecessary debt to the bottom line

There is a better way you know
  • #56,814
  • Aug 19, 2013 10:58am Aug 19, 2013 10:58am
Quoting wingate
Any of you guys still holding onto your eurusd shorts? Better think twice cause there is a high possibility that it's going to go even higher Blindly follow 'your master' adding yet more unnecessary debt to the bottom line There is a better way you know
No, the newbies do not know, wingate, they are enthralled with the concept of no losses. We can be the loyal opposition and try to wave them away, warn them.

I have noticed that the Yen pairs are in an extended move to the upside, and the more yen pairs traded, the deeper the pain some of these newbies are feeling if they have followed some people down the rabbit hole.

But, because hard quantifiable data has been suppressed on this thread, we will not know the full truth, until some of them just stop posting.

To the other 400+ traders out there, trading by averaging down and thinking there is some system to that is being Fooled By Randomness. I can easily post seven days of winning trades by averaging down for no good reason, if there is interest in that.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,815
  • Aug 19, 2013 11:00am Aug 19, 2013 11:00am
Quoting Lucy Furr
3 dragons gbpusd a little late with the entry, the narrow range high volume bar marked with an arrow didn't result in any price move down, so those big bad boogie men called MM's.... are buyers!....trying to pick on all the little retail traders sitting at home... {image} b/e {image} done +3RR {image} wonder how this high vol bar evolves for future price action?

Good stuff Lucy, and congratulations on not drinking the Kool Aid.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,816
  • Aug 19, 2013 11:02am Aug 19, 2013 11:02am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} No, the newbies do not know, wingate, they are enthralled with the concept of no losses. I have noticed that that Yen pairs are in an extended move to the upside, and the more yen pairs traded, the deeper the pain some of these newbies are feeling if they have followed some people down the rabbit hole. But, because hard quantifiable data has been suppressed on this thread, we will not know the full truth, until some of them just stop posting. To the other 400+ traders out there, trading by averaging down and thinking there is some...
Just post your own applied theory of the Sonic R system and leave the sarcasm and childish behaviour for the kids please. Thanks. You do talk sense 'at times' but it gets clouded by your constant need to get 'one up' on TAH.

And as it states in the first post. Please attach an analysed chart to explain your opinion.

Have a nice day
  • #56,817
  • Aug 19, 2013 11:02am Aug 19, 2013 11:02am
Quoting wingate
Any of you guys still holding onto your eurusd shorts? Better think twice cause there is a high possibility that it's going to go even higher Blindly follow 'your master' adding yet more unnecessary debt to the bottom line There is a better way you know
I still have shorts in EURUSD in a mid term trade. I'm aware that this trade will be long but I'm ok with that. I don't expect a big drop in that pair before the German elections. I started to build it even before than TAH, so maybe I'm the master now and people should follow me xD.

Really, no offense, but I don't know what are you doing in a thread that you don't like. I really can't understand. If I'm not interested in something, I just avoid it. But I don't get the point about coming into a thread to write that you don't like it and to flame the people who does like it. It's kinda... sad, don't know.

Maybe, because you seem to be an experienced trader (better than all), you could show us some of your trades, explaining it. Then your contribution to the thread would be different. Right now you are just a flamer, think about it The only thing you are achieving, and I owe you and Joe that, is that I don't want to write long post explaining things anymore, it's just annoying that every time we write something we receive a constant spam from you or Joe, saying nothing but bullshit. Not a chart, not an explanation, just flaming. I just prefer to be in the shadow with people like you. You are destroying this thread, so you are achieving your point. Congrats.

Best, Tymedu.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #56,818
  • Aug 19, 2013 11:05am Aug 19, 2013 11:05am
Quoting wingate
Any of you guys still holding onto your eurusd shorts? Better think twice cause there is a high possibility that it's going to go even higher Blindly follow 'your master' adding yet more unnecessary debt to the bottom line There is a better way you know
So what?? If the MMs will pump again, there will be better places for adding shorts.

You don't like this trading method? You can always be somewhere else!
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #56,819
  • Aug 19, 2013 11:11am Aug 19, 2013 11:11am
Quoting dbaltov
Hello to all of you. I am still trying to figure out for myself the essence of this trading approach, but with every well-intentioned post, I feel that this is my kind of thinking about trading. Especially forex trading. BIG THANK YOU, to every single person here, who shares the so called "secrets" of that market, and highlights it a bit and that give us a clue for the upcoming MM's intentions. I have a difficulties to find the answer of one question though: We all know that the MM's are manipulative players. They are doing this at so many levels,...
We cannot know the size of the trades on the broker server, only the number of trades. Trades are passed to the market makers to fill. Will they play games with sizes? I have no idea, but I imagine they are too busy getting orders filled to worry about breaking an order they are filling down into itsy bitsy pieces just to deceive by making the order count larger that way. I suppose it is possible though. In any case, the testing of the validity of PVSRA has shown that any such attempts (if being done) are not effectual in throwing off the PVSRA.
  • #56,820
  • Aug 19, 2013 11:18am Aug 19, 2013 11:18am
Quoting wingate
Any of you guys still holding onto your eurusd shorts? Better think twice cause there is a high possibility that it's going to go even higher Blindly follow 'your master' adding yet more unnecessary debt to the bottom line There is a better way you know
I am still holding EU short position.
The reason is shown below. Hope it's clear.
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