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  • #56,281
  • Edited 5:49am Aug 14, 2013 5:25am | Edited 5:49am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Nobody fudged anything you poor delusional fellow. As far as signals go, you don't need any, just average down until the price comes to your average position. You don't even need a chart, not mention any indicators. Just some random times and some random seeds. Tick volume shows nothing but rate of change of price over a given amount of time. You are making this stuff up tah, and you should quit. As far as trades, I already told you that I would post them, no charts, no indies, no nothing, just open the platform, and place a trade if you...
Quoting nathaniel
{quote} What is wrong with you? I noticed that people have this tendency to be rude and offensive on public forums because they hide behind an online persona. What I am just saying is that if the strategy is to average down, one doesn't need a complex system, just a very good money management system. However, if one is advocating averaging down as a means of trading, people following the system ought to be cautious.
The Bobbsey Twins


You too don't fool anyone here. Your gibberish is incessant but you don't deliver anything but talk!


I trade the way I want to. I post my trades from start to finish. And I post my trade summary weekly.


If you don't like it, too bad. If you cannot be as successful, too bad. If you want to continue to garbage up Sonic's thread, well that is up to Sonic. Why he puts up with letting the likes of you polute here is beyond me, but it is his thread. Maybe he, like myself, understands that if you give blowhards like you enough rope, you will hang yourselves. It is just a shame that genuine and serious Sonicers will have to wade thru your crap to find the real fruit. Maybe Sonic is just too busy to see what is happening. Well, eventually he will.


One thing is clearly evident. Anyone can search your Forex Factory posts, both of yours, and find nothing of value. Just talk. No action. Furthermore, nathaniel, your Forex Factory Explorer says you are at an all time net loss. And you, jmn5611, you don't have the balls to reveal anything,....because there isn't anything! You are a FRAUD! That says it all.

Both of you should thank your lucky stars that you can at least lurk here and get your signals.


-tah
  • #56,282
  • Aug 14, 2013 5:41am Aug 14, 2013 5:41am
GBPCHF, Price rising with high volume. MM's are bears.

Thanks for any comments. I am still pvsra begginer.
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  • #56,283
  • Aug 14, 2013 5:54am Aug 14, 2013 5:54am
Quoting Adis
GBPCHF, Price rising with high volume. MM's are bears. Thanks for any comments. I am still pvsra begginer. {image}
Totally agree with you.
GBPCHF BEARS looking the better places for loading their shorts. High activity around whole S&R area, one of their favouritest place.
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Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #56,284
  • Aug 14, 2013 5:54am Aug 14, 2013 5:54am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UCad Long Trade: Added longs #4 - #9 since previous post, Scouts, and all based on M1 PVSRA. {image}
UCad Long Trade: Added long Scout #10 as PVSRA bull MMs wacked the price.
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  • #56,285
  • Aug 14, 2013 5:58am Aug 14, 2013 5:58am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Just a follow up. It's pretty obvious that we are in a consolidation zone and my old SL makes no sense anymore. Moving the SL above the consolidation area. Price is holding quite well the 38.2 fibo. {image}
Your SL got hit. Why you took so tight SL ?

We have seen how MMs manipulating with the price, tight SL-s will get hit almost always. But you will get another chance to add shorts.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #56,286
  • Aug 14, 2013 6:01am Aug 14, 2013 6:01am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GJ Short Trade: I have added shorts #11 - #14, Scouts. The MMs have a hard, fast drive on to get the price as high as they economically can before the GBP release that is coming out in a few minutes, or maybe more releases later. Makes no difference why. They are bears adding shorts. {image}
GJ Short Trade: I have added short Scouts #15 - #21 as PVSRA bear MMs continue seeking highs for adding their own shorts.
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  • #56,287
  • Edited 6:32am Aug 14, 2013 6:14am | Edited 6:32am
Quoting sonicdeejay
NIce S/R play.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK6jtbGrL14 Sonic {image}
Update on my trade
My short closed with minimal profit.. thx to S/R based TP..


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Sonic
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  • #56,288
  • Aug 14, 2013 6:17am Aug 14, 2013 6:17am
Quoting loeil
{quote} Your SL got hit. Why you took so tight SL ? We have seen how MMs manipulating with the price, tight SL-s will get hit almost always. But you will get another chance to add shorts.
Tight or not, it was the logical.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #56,289
  • Edited 6:28am Aug 14, 2013 6:17am | Edited 6:28am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Just a follow up. It's pretty obvious that we are in a consolidation zone and my old SL makes no sense anymore. Moving the SL above the consolidation area. Price is holding quite well the 38.2 fibo. {image}
Quoting loeil
{quote} Your SL got hit. Why you took so tight SL ? We have seen how MMs manipulating with the price, tight SL-s will get hit almost always. But you will get another chance to add shorts.
Thoughts on SL Management


Setting a SL is giving the legal right to steal your money to someone else! Don't take this lightly! This is a dog-eat-dog market, even if it is a far better place to trade than the stock market and all of its derivatives. The market manipulators here, as in all markets, will swing prices to hit SLs; to steal your money (create market liquidity to get their own orders filled). Why enable them?


It is totally unreasonable and foolish to think that "today" you can out guess the market manipulators and where they might push the price within the day, within the week, or ever! Furthermore, who ever said that as price action unfolds against a trade, it is a bad thing? There might be increasing reasons to believe in the trade as such unfolding price action reveals that the market is simply better preparing for the very move you are trading!


The SL should be managed by reason of assessment of the dynamic changes in the market, nothing else. The trader should decide when to fold, based on these dynamics, not on a pure guess at the time the trade is opened. The trader should never give someone else the legal right to steal their money!


If the trade needs folding, then fold. But you keep control of making that decision. Don't give that control to someone else. If you find you are having to fold frequently, and that eventually those trades went good but you were already out, then you are trading too heavily for your account size. This is proof that your trade decisions are good ones, but that you are trading to heavy to stay in the trade as the MMs manipulate the market in their preparations for the same trade.


-tah
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  • Aug 14, 2013 6:17am Aug 14, 2013 6:17am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GJ Short Trade: I have added short Scouts #15 - #21 as PVSRA bear MMs continue seeking highs for adding their own shorts. {image} {image}
Ser

I can see that it looks toppish but..better to wait for price to go below dragons..IMHO

Sonic
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  • #56,291
  • Aug 14, 2013 6:18am Aug 14, 2013 6:18am
Quoting Islander
GM - my "Part Time Everything" approach - Part Time Work, Part Time Trading and Part Time Retirement has taken a knock as its been Full Time Work for more of August than I like I did grab this one as the good MPC data gave a great spike up to the 5500 level in that good volume green shooting star. Now we need to see what happens after the 5m & 15m Dragons have "caught up" with price and also see what the US traders do..... {image}
Price was held at today's DP - the dashed magenta line - and the still rising 5m Dragon - so bank.

Now I am looking for price to break the 1m Dragon to make a Scout type entry ( for this TF) - OR another spike up towards the US Open 1 at 12:00 gmt
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  • #56,292
  • Edited 6:42am Aug 14, 2013 6:31am | Edited 6:42am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} Ser I can see that it looks toppish but..better to wait for price to go below dragons..IMHO Sonic {image}
"Hello!" to you Sir Master Sonicdeejay. Nice to have you back!

My PVSRA assessment is the bear MMs hiked the price above whole SR to add shorts. I added too. And, they might later get the price above the 1/4 SR to add more, in which case I plan to add again. As I closed some trades last week, there is unused monies needing to be put to work. This too, is an important part of the money management system; a good balance between using the monies and overusing them.

Even as I was writing, the MMs took the price above the 1/4 SR with notable volume, and I added again also.

-tah
  • #56,293
  • Aug 14, 2013 6:41am Aug 14, 2013 6:41am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} Thoughts on SL Management Setting a SL is giving the legal right to steal your money to someone else! Don't take this lightly! This is a dog-eat-dog market, even if it is a far better place to trade than the stock market and all of its derivatives. The market manipulators here, as in all markets, will swing prices to hit SLs; to steal your money (create market liquidity to get their own orders filled). Why enable them? It is totally unreasonable and foolish to think that "today" you can out guess the market manipulators and where...
Yeah nice point of view Tah.

I and only I have a rights to manage my money, not the MMs. So I'm not offering this stealing pleasure to them. That's why I don't use SL-s and never will.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #56,294
  • Aug 14, 2013 6:59am Aug 14, 2013 6:59am
Quoting loeil
{quote} Yeah nice point of view Tah. I and only I have a rights to manage my money, not the MMs. So I'm not offering this stealing pleasure to them. That's why I don't use SL-s and never will.
Stop Loss (SL) should be labeled SP (Stop Profit), because that's essentially
what it does - except for the MM's!

  • #56,295
  • Aug 14, 2013 7:07am Aug 14, 2013 7:07am
Quoting arbinka
I have developed a monitor EA to assist me when trading the SoncR system. I’m using mt4gui dll (free available from fx1 inc) to implement buttons functionality that normally is not available for mt4 terminals. The EA can also be set to automatically open new position with predefined interval. At the moment I have the following functions available: 1.Automatically detect all open positions. 2.Automatically calculate average entry price whenever a new position is detected. 3.Sow / Hide the monitor panels. 4.Set TP / remove TP to all open positions...
Would be a nice and helpful tool. Please post it!
  • #56,296
  • Aug 14, 2013 7:10am Aug 14, 2013 7:10am
PVSRA Reveals the Truth of the Market

See UCad attached, wherein the US open MMs have come to the table. The first thing they did was take the price lower again, for themselves this time to load up more longs ahead of USD releases. This does not mean the price will immediately go up again, nor that it cannot go down further. It does indicate what the MMs are, bulls or bears. We stay with them! We plant when they plant! We harvest when they harvest!.

Specifically, what is PVSRA showing? It is showing the bull MMs have taken price below the half SR and also below the the MR1 pivot for today, to load up longs. Remember, a premise of PVSRA is that bull MMs prefer to load longs below key SR. And that is exactly what is going on.

PVSRA is an amazingly reveal of the intent of the MMs in the market!

-tah
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  • #56,297
  • Aug 14, 2013 7:23am Aug 14, 2013 7:23am
Killer Sonic R. System Classic Setup!
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  • #56,298
  • Aug 14, 2013 7:39am Aug 14, 2013 7:39am
GU Short Trade (Alternate Account):

I have added a second short component to this trade that has been running on this pair since the spike some days back. This is a second trade, different account, larger size entries. No TP at this time.
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  • #56,299
  • Aug 14, 2013 7:39am Aug 14, 2013 7:39am
DMITRYFX I have closed UJ coz I don't see any more movement up, plus I made there lot of trades which were loading my account. So got rid of it, 700 pips is still money.
There is no spoon....
  • #56,300
  • Aug 14, 2013 7:47am Aug 14, 2013 7:47am
Quoting Msis125125
DMITRYFX I have closed UJ coz I don't see any more movement up, plus I made there lot of trades which were loading my account. So got rid of it, 700 pips is still money.
I've closed trades that I knew were good just to free up margin. Sometimes, a trade gets extensive and when in profit, freeing up margin is a good trade-off as now we can look for greener pastures.
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
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