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  • #56,201
  • Aug 13, 2013 10:32am Aug 13, 2013 10:32am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Great post, Redsunfx! It is so true, too. Through past time on this thread, the most vehement of trolls, like jmn5611, have been just like him. They have all been non-contributory, with scarcely a single valid real-time trade in all of the space they wasted on this thread under the pretext of helping others. It is always much easier to talk than to perform, and this single and very telling characteristic is the most well developed characteristic in all of these trolls. -tah

And yet, I still post, I still challenge you. So apparently you trying to label me a troll has NO traction.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,202
  • Aug 13, 2013 10:40am Aug 13, 2013 10:40am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I think this post was made by a former guru who was debunked, lol. Anyone who tells the truth is troll to a guru. I most certainly have public and private post to fuel me to keep going with the reality that tah is trading his own brand, people clearly see this. All I ask is for tah to BE A MAN and admit that nothing in the way he trades when he is averaging down remotely resembles Sonic R. I am okay with Ty, and will never have a bad word to say about him. Why? Because he has the STONES to call a spade a spade and admit that that averaging...
Just to clarify, I never said this is average down because it's not. I explained it a couple of times and I won't do it again, but there is a difference between to average down and to build a position. Here, there is a point where we cross the border from building position to average down, but it's not the normal case, they are just extreme case (like the one we are trading right now).
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #56,203
  • Aug 13, 2013 10:48am Aug 13, 2013 10:48am
UJ definitely BEARS! For those who are using PVSRA.

MMs pumped the price up to whole S&R area on very high volume. Why do they need to do that? Better shorts, why else!

It's obvious they will want to pump it more high, especially considering those USD high impact releases on this week. So I'm not hurry yet with adding my shorts.
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  • #56,204
  • Aug 13, 2013 10:51am Aug 13, 2013 10:51am
Can some one send me the EA "average entry point"?
Thank you
  • #56,205
  • Aug 13, 2013 10:53am Aug 13, 2013 10:53am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Don't Put Your Words Into Our Mouths Who says we average down until no tomorrow? Who says we don't care about the prevalent trend? And what we really care about is what PVSRA is telling us. And we have a good "bank of pips" money management system, too. Doesn't make any sense to you? Then read these: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...51#post6867151 http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...68#post6883868 -tah
That looks awesome!


I personally know of someone who averages and doubles down, but makes consistent profits when the trend turns in his favour. No holy grail strategy. In fact a very simple strategy, but good money management to prevent any DDs too big to handle.

Works perfectly for him, and he does it on EUR/USD where the volatility is manageable.
  • #56,206
  • Aug 13, 2013 10:57am Aug 13, 2013 10:57am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Dear TAH, let's put the things clear. You (and me, and other guys) add scouts/orders "until no tomorrow" since you have no SL. And you (or me) don't care about the prevalent trend since you are adding orders against the trend the 90% of the time. We use this system based only in PVSRA, not the trend and without SL. And that can be risky, but it's working atm. But at some point it will hurt our account, that's for sure. It can take 1 week, 1 month, 1 year... but at some point there will be an event causing a big pain, and with this system...
There's definitely a way of making sure you don't suffer a DD that can hurt your account bad. Do some tests to make sure that your maximum lot size in the market will never be more than a certain % of your account, given a big swing against you in the currency.

The way you are trading - Surely there are sufficient opportunities to get out at a profit without hurting your account. If yen crosses are too volatile, try eurusd. Slow and steady.
  • #56,207
  • Aug 13, 2013 10:57am Aug 13, 2013 10:57am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Just to clarify, I never said this is average down because it's not. I explained it a couple of times and I won't do it again, but there is a difference between to average down and to build a position. Here, there is a point where we cross the border from building position to average down, but it's not the normal case, they are just extreme case (like the one we are trading right now).
But it is the abnormal cases that determine what accounts survive, and what accounts do not. Would you argee that that statement?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,208
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:01am Aug 13, 2013 11:01am
Quoting nathaniel
{quote} That looks awesome! I personally know of someone who averages and doubles down, but makes consistent profits when the trend turns in his favour. No holy grail strategy. In fact a very simple strategy, but good money management to prevent any DDs too big to handle. Works perfectly for him, and he does it on EUR/USD where the volatility is manageable.
Another great post. And yet again, tah, another dissenter realizes that your pontificating has nothing to do with a good simple MM strat that has little to do with analysis. Just average down until the market turns. Two weeks, six months, it does not matter. Just keep bringing that average price closer to your original position.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,209
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:03am Aug 13, 2013 11:03am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} But it is the abnormal cases that determine what accounts survive, and what accounts do not. Would you argee that that statement?
Of course I agree with that, that's because even in this "weird" case I had a max DD of 20%, which I think it's quite acceptable.

And guys, dunno what did you see in my post but I'm ok xD, Don't understand why is everybody consoling me so hard

Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Another great post. And yet again, tah, another dissenter realizes that your pontificating has nothing to do with a good simple MM strat that has little to do with analysis. Just average down until the market turns. Two weeks, six months, it does not matter. Just keep bringing that average price closer to your original position.
That is a half true. Yes, basically that is the system, but the success is WHERE to start to build and to detect what is the better point to do it. And there is where PVSRA is outstanding.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #56,210
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:04am Aug 13, 2013 11:04am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I think this post was made by a former guru who was debunked, lol. Anyone who tells the truth is troll to a guru. I most certainly have public and private post to fuel me to keep going with the reality that tah is trading his own brand, people clearly see this. All I ask is for tah to BE A MAN and admit that nothing in the way he trades when he is averaging down remotely resembles Sonic R. I am okay with Ty, and will never have a bad word to say about him. Why? Because he has the STONES to call a spade a spade and admit that that averaging...
jmn5611, if you go away, quietly or not, then who will provide for our daily laughs?
  • #56,211
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:07am Aug 13, 2013 11:07am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} jmn5611, if you go away, quietly or not, then who will provide for our daily laughs?
People are laughing all right, tah, but not at me.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,212
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:09am Aug 13, 2013 11:09am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Of course I agree with that, that's because even in this "weird" case I had a max DD of 20%, which I think it's quite acceptable. And guys, dunno what did you see in my post but I'm ok xD, Don't understand why is everybody consoling me so hard {quote} That is a half true. Yes, basically that is the system, but the success is WHERE to start to build and to detect what is the better point to do it. And there is where PVSRA is outstanding.
And that is my only point, Ty. Learning how not to blow up does require some skill, but not in trading, in money management.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,213
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:11am Aug 13, 2013 11:11am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} And that is my only point, Ty. Learning how not to blow up does require some skill, but not in trading, in money management.
You just read what you wanna read. That was my last try, I'm done with you
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #56,214
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:13am Aug 13, 2013 11:13am
Quoting J3r0m3
{quote} Amazon is one of the first, but the ones that are doing it best now is good ol Google. their google analytics sometimes even give you the creeps when they know what you are thinking even before yourself... as the Art of War teaches us, " know thy enemy, know thy self. A thousand battles waged, a thousand battles won! "
I am in the process of reading that book! Hopefully it'll provide me much insight into my trading.
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #56,215
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:14am Aug 13, 2013 11:14am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} People are laughing all right, tah, but not at me.
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} You just read what you wanna read. That was my last try, I'm done with you
HA, HA, HA!

Well, jmn5611, looks like you spoke out of turn,......again!

-tah
  • #56,216
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:15am Aug 13, 2013 11:15am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} You just read what you wanna read. That was my last try, I'm done with you

That's okay, Ty, you have to strike a balance between the truth, and tah. That will be difficult, but good luck with it anyways.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,217
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:16am Aug 13, 2013 11:16am
I forgot to mention, but I entered in AU with a classic entry. Clear waves, clear SL. TP is 0.886.
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  • #56,218
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:19am Aug 13, 2013 11:19am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} HA, HA, HA! Well, jmn5611, looks like you spoke out of turn,......again! -tah

Not really, Ty is like Sonic, they realize you have invested a lot of time, and do not want to hurt your feelings. It is obvious this is all you have. Who posts 7 times a day for five years??

Not anyone with any semblance of a life. I feel for you too. And again, if you just admit that you are trading a different system, cause everyone knows you are, then I will be quiet, but you are not confident enuf in your own stuff to get out from under Sonic's cloak. That says all that needs to be said, really.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,219
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:20am Aug 13, 2013 11:20am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Another great post. And yet again, tah, another dissenter realizes that your pontificating has nothing to do with a good simple MM strat that has little to do with analysis. Just average down until the market turns. Two weeks, six months, it does not matter. Just keep bringing that average price closer to your original position.

I just wanted to clarify (correct me if I'm wrong) but he is actually bringing the average price AWAY from his original position, and into a BETTER position.

Just wanted to make sure that's what you meant.

-qFish
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #56,220
  • Aug 13, 2013 11:23am Aug 13, 2013 11:23am
Quoting qFish
{quote} I just wanted to clarify (correct me if I'm wrong) but he is actually bringing the average price AWAY from his original position, and into a BETTER position. Just wanted to make sure that's what you meant. -qFish

That is correct. Bring the price closer to a point where profit can be taken.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
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