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  • #55,841
  • Aug 9, 2013 7:47am Aug 9, 2013 7:47am
Hello Sonicers. I am following this topic since April. While I still have my doubts I can see the potential of the PVRSA system. I believe the main question here is if there will be a relentless move against the trade (like what happened starting November 2012 on some pairs) at what point someone cut the losses?
I've made my first scout trade on EA, here are the particulars:
12 entries spaced 50 pips apart (work issues getting in the way of my screen time)
560 pips the trade went against me for a total of 3420 pips DD
Because I pushed the wrong button the script closed all my scouts before all could have been a winner, so
out of the 12 scouts 4 were losers for 276 pips and 8 scouts were winner for 1510 pips.
I have traded $0.2 (two micros) on $5,000 demo account so the trade resulted 6% return in 7 trading days

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  • #55,842
  • Aug 9, 2013 7:54am Aug 9, 2013 7:54am
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} Wait! Here is where we exit! 1.42xxx {image}

Why you msis play demo account.
Go real.
  • #55,843
  • Aug 9, 2013 7:55am Aug 9, 2013 7:55am
Regarding money management: I have made an excel file based on $0.1 (10 cents) per pip cost and calculated the trade goes against me 1,500 pips.
This trade would require 31 scout entries (assuming each 50 pips apart) at the cost of $186.00 in margin requirement (1:200 leverage)
The total cost of DD would be $2,325 + $186
Break even at entry #16 when the trade turns.
Attached the excel file, if you have questions feel free.......
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  • #55,844
  • Aug 9, 2013 8:00am Aug 9, 2013 8:00am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} It is also sad that he thinks that volume has anything to do with some grand cabal of market makers when volume is different for every broker.
So, what is the best broker for volume information? I'm using fxopen, thinkforex, primefx and i'm very confused about volume differences.
  • #55,845
  • Aug 9, 2013 8:04am Aug 9, 2013 8:04am
Quoting Markus67
{quote} Why you msis play demo account. Go real.
Happy, the reason I have posted from demo coz you cant see SHIT on this one!
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There is no spoon....
  • #55,846
  • Aug 9, 2013 8:12am Aug 9, 2013 8:12am
Dear fellow SONICERS! I have been trading a live acc for 18 months it was very stress full still managed to do well. In April this year I joined this thread,results some weeks I add little and some weeks a lot to my acc,but guess what no stress! that to me =fun and thats what life is about.
BIG THANKS TO TAH SONICDEEJAY AND ALL SONICERS.



PS to ALL FOR ONE and ONE FOR ALL ! Please do not waste your energy;to these low life who have been planted here for destruction only!
From Angy ALL FOR ONE +ONE FOR ALL =TO GETHER WE STAND divided we fall.
  • #55,847
  • Aug 9, 2013 8:13am Aug 9, 2013 8:13am
Quoting Markus67
{quote} Why you msis play demo account. Go real.
English is not my language...

You remember Tymedu S 1.3415 SL, changed to 1.347x if i remember.
I say 1.3470 must be. I'm wrong.
After that, was ban for me on FF.
I opened account like Tymedu (Tymedu has 150+ 150 in) 100 Euro gratis, let's try this TAH PVSRA.
Account opened 22.07.2013 now +37%
Usdcad mistake's. Minus 4 euro.
I have us.30 profit +6euro
TAH you can use my account profil as profitable.


P/S TAH good job...
Regards Markus67 banned
  • #55,848
  • Aug 9, 2013 8:14am Aug 9, 2013 8:14am
  •  St3ve
  • | Joined Jan 2013 | Status: Recovering from losses ... | 77 Posts
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} Wait! Here is where we exit! 1.42xxx {image}
Let's assume some conditions verified by PVSRA:

  1. USD will gain strength
  2. AUD is keeping its value

So in this scenario (which should play out in the coming days/weeks), EUR/USD will drop and AUD/USD would probably rise a bit more, but not that much because of USD strength.
Taking the following formula, we can calculate some target levels which need to be reached if we want to close EUR/AUD at 1.42xx:


EUR/AUD = EUR/USD divided by AUD/USD
1.4200 = 1.3080 / 0.9211

Assuming EUR/USD will drop to approx. 1.3080 and we want to close EUR/AUD at 1.42, AUD/USD would need to stay above 0,9211 (higher is better).
So to me this looks pretty promising and I will definitely keep my EUR/AUD for a while!

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Steve
  • #55,849
  • Aug 9, 2013 8:37am Aug 9, 2013 8:37am
Quoting St3ve
{quote} Let's assume some conditions verified by PVSRA: USD will gain strength AUD is keeping its valueSo in this scenario (which should play out in the coming days/weeks), EUR/USD will drop and AUD/USD would probably rise a bit more, but not that much because of USD strength. Taking the following formula, we can calculate some target levels which need to be reached if we want to close EUR/AUD at 1.42xx: EUR/AUD = EUR/USD divided by AUD/USD 1.4200 = 1.3080 / 0.9211 Assuming EUR/USD will drop to approx. 1.3080 and we want to close EUR/AUD at 1.42,...
Finally someone taking into consideration the correlation. Excellent analysis!!
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #55,850
  • Aug 9, 2013 8:44am Aug 9, 2013 8:44am
Quoting ivonivon
okay, apparently i realize i was wrong to start the debate here. I just browse through the posts again, and folks who keep defending ideas haven't even joined for 1 year! You know what is keen for newbie traders? A method to justify that it's OK to get caught in wrong tide and still make money. How they jump of joy with no SL! So... I am sorry, I'll debate no more, nor I'll read post from junior members. so post it 2 years later. hi sonic, i'm sad your thread become like this, newbies who doesn't even yet learn the basic: R:R. One day, when the...

Debate is good. Steve had a post to where he has already taken his risk money out of his account. That is hard to argue against, to be fair. They seem to understand that eventually they are going to blow up, so they will ride this pony until it drops, that is pretty fair. My argument was always with tah using words like "revolutionary" to describe an analysis that has been around for 100 years. Give credit where credit is due, and stop repackaging the wheel, tah. That is a form of plagiarism, and I have a particular dislike for thievery.

If he had said, this is how Sonicers use Wycoff, then I would be just fine. Quit trying to say this is original, tah.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #55,851
  • Aug 9, 2013 8:48am Aug 9, 2013 8:48am
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} Happy, the reason I have posted from demo coz you cant see SHIT on this one! {image} {image}
Hi,

I have been mostly a silent lurker. I am using TAHs latest template and was wondering how you got the lines and values with each position and the average to show. Would it be possible to share this template?



Thanks,
K
  • #55,852
  • Aug 9, 2013 9:01am Aug 9, 2013 9:01am
Quoting spitt
Hello Sonicers. I am following this topic since April. While I still have my doubts I can see the potential of the PVRSA system. I believe the main question here is if there will be a relentless move against the trade (like what happened starting November 2012 on some pairs) at what point someone cut the losses? I've made my first scout trade on EA, here are the particulars: 12 entries spaced 50 pips apart (work issues getting in the way of my screen time) 560 pips the trade went against me for a total of 3420 pips DD Because I pushed the wrong...
Sorry to hear it, next time be more careful with those "wrong buttons". Anyway well done, 1510 pips are in your account now. You can always wait a pullback and load more shorts. And there is still more pairs which will keep you a new chance.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #55,853
  • Aug 9, 2013 9:11am Aug 9, 2013 9:11am
Quoting kashTrader
{quote} Hi, I have been mostly a silent lurker. I am using TAHs latest template and was wondering how you got the lines and values with each position and the average to show. Would it be possible to share this template? Thanks, K
You have to put in the prices for your positions manually. Open up the SonicR Trade Levels indicator..
TWEE, revoke my membership.
  • #55,854
  • Aug 9, 2013 9:20am Aug 9, 2013 9:20am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AU Long Trade: Added long Scouts #11 - #14. Adjusted TP. {image}
AU Long Trade: Closed all 15 components for 3,000 pips gain. I added #15 since the previous post.
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  • #55,855
  • Aug 9, 2013 9:31am Aug 9, 2013 9:31am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AU Long Trade: Added long Scouts #11 - #14. Adjusted TP. {image}
did you long because price was going down with increase volume?
  • #55,856
  • Aug 9, 2013 9:36am Aug 9, 2013 9:36am
Look Ma! No charts!

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This is result of just trading very small and truly random intervals. It is not rocket science. There is no PVSRA, there is only averaging down!

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Trade small, drops seeds....anywhere, it does not matter, and a pullback will take you into profit. Markets range 70-80% of the time. All this bull/bear bs is just that, bs. There is no conspiracy theory, no grand plan, just basic market mechanics. The seeds must very, very small. Which is why Sonicers should follow SONIC, and Islander, and it looks like Ty has figured this out as well. Stick to SONIC R trading! That way you can use much more leverage, and actually grow your account faster as you get some skills. Adding to losers requires NO skill.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #55,857
  • Edited 10:05am Aug 9, 2013 9:40am | Edited 10:05am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Debate is good. Steve had a post to where he has already taken his risk money out of his account. That is hard to argue against, to be fair. They seem to understand that eventually they are going to blow up, so they will ride this pony until it drops, that is pretty fair. My argument was always with tah using words like "revolutionary" to describe an analysis that has been around for 100 years. Give credit where credit is due, and stop repackaging the wheel, tah. That is a form of plagiarism, and I have a particular dislike for thievery....
jmn5611, Despicable Spamer!

jmn5611,

You are a lying fraud! Show me where Wyckoff said, "Bull MMs prefer to build below whole SR and bear MMs prefer to build above whole SR", or anything close to that premise foundation of PVSRA! Go ahead, asshole! Do your research and show me! You are despicable! You just made a false accusation and I am calling you on it!

And that is the second time you have lied to all of the Sonicers here!

I hope Sonic throws you off this thread because you have no purpose here but as a blowhard to toot your own horn, which ain't of value to any serious trader. Since you came here I have logged trades and profits, and have helped others. Since you came here you have logged only your own brand of invented pompous bullshit, and have helped nobody, and have lied to everybody!

-tah
  • #55,858
  • Aug 9, 2013 9:41am Aug 9, 2013 9:41am
This is mine AU, I'm begginer. Average trade is 153p.
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  • #55,859
  • Aug 9, 2013 9:44am Aug 9, 2013 9:44am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} jmn5611, Despicable Spamer! jmn5611, You are a lying fraud and stupid! Show me where Wyckoff said, "Bull MMs prefer to build below whole SR and bear MMs prefer to build above whole SR", or anything close! Go ahead, asshole! Do your research and show me! You are despicable! And I hope Sonic throws you off this thread because you have no purpose here but as a blowhard to toot your own horn, which ain't of value to any serious trader. Since you came here I have logged trades and profits. Since you came here you have logged only your own brand...
That's funny tah, because I just booked profits in the post directly above yours. As far as bulls preferring this or that, that is you pontificating. The volume theory belongs to Wycoff.

You would get an F, if you tried this at any university
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #55,860
  • Aug 9, 2013 9:48am Aug 9, 2013 9:48am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AU Long Trade: Closed all 15 components for 3,000 pips gain. I added #15 since the previous post. {image}
No doubt. Patience paid.
By the way, now Liquidity gap is closed.
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
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