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  • #55,401
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:27am Aug 5, 2013 3:27am
I gave the hint earlier as to what I would be trading and here's the chart. I've chosen to bank ~the **25 level before the Services PMI data as this is the safer way to trade intra day.....notice how price is no longer holding at that outer band

Earlier, around FO, the 5m Dragon turned up and moved above the 15m dragon which then also turned up giving several opportunities to buy......or wait for LO and buy after that higher volumed harami with increased volume....
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  • #55,402
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:27am Aug 5, 2013 3:27am
Quoting St3ve
{quote} Open the properties of the indicator and look for Show_Clock_in_Panel. Set this to false. When you are done with that, open all of TAHs indicators with the MT4 editor and read the user notes .... {image} {quote} Nice working place for an octopus. 6 platforms for his tentacles ;-)
There you go. Another who was too lazy to read and follow instructions, and you simply fed him the answer on a silver platter......

I mean, how friggin' industrious does a person have to be to simply scan the External Inputs? And that one was only the third down from the top!
  • #55,403
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:33am Aug 5, 2013 3:33am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Why? Show me how the panel interferes with anything.
sometimes i need to see the chart clearly but without deleting any indicator
  • #55,404
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:33am Aug 5, 2013 3:33am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} There you go. Another who was too lazy to read and follow instructions, and you simply fed him the answer on a silver platter...... I mean, how friggin' industrious does a person have to be to simply scan the External Inputs? And that one was only the third down from the top!

More important is GU is rocking to the sky.
  • #55,405
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:37am Aug 5, 2013 3:37am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} There you go. Another who was too lazy to read and follow instructions, and you simply fed him the answer on a silver platter...... I mean, how friggin' industrious does a person have to be to simply scan the External Inputs? And that one was only the third down from the top!
Sorry Prof.TAH BUT my experience with indicators and mt4 is not very good

if you wants me not to post in this thread or ask any question , please tell me and i will stay away
  • #55,406
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:38am Aug 5, 2013 3:38am
  •  St3ve
  • | Joined Jan 2013 | Status: Recovering from losses ... | 77 Posts
Quoting traderathome
{quote} There you go. Another who was too lazy to read and follow instructions, and you simply fed him the answer on a silver platter...... I mean, how friggin' industrious does a person have to be to simply scan the External Inputs? And that one was only the third down from the top!
I thought about writing a completely different, "not-so-friendly" answer, but hey .. it's monday morning and even though market feds me up by not moving in my desired direction I don't want to pass that mood to others
  • #55,407
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:43am Aug 5, 2013 3:43am
UCad Long Trade:

We are over 1.5 hours into the LS now, and the MMs have brought the price down. Not nearly so far as I had hoped. On M1 the price seems to be basing with higher volumes starting to come in as price moves up from lows. Here is where I am making my first long entry, a Scout, as I discussed in earlier posts.

If the MMs later move the price lower, if sufficiently so, I might add another long Scout. And the same if the MMs bring this up to form an M15 classic long setup. No SL and my target is per my earlier posts.
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  • #55,408
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:44am Aug 5, 2013 3:44am
Quoting traderathome
futurespeter and qFish, Both of you, and actually all of us Sonicers, need to keep an open mind as we experiment with the PVSRA concept. There is something of great value here. We just need to find the way to do it best. This is like a diamond cutter being given the greatest raw diamond in the world. Now, it is up to the cutter to study, analyze, measure, and do some deep thinking about how to cut it so that the final presentation is the most dazzling that it can be. This could take months. So, here is a thought provoking chart by qFish. The stated...

Nice post TAH! when the sonic r system started, the idea was to enter a trade somewhere with the best possible outcome, this meant waiting for a trend to develop and catching (wave 3) sonic classic setups, basically entering a trade in the middle of a trend. The easiest way to trade is with the trend. there are many approaches we can take to reduce DD:

take PVSRA signals off larger TFs,
send a limited number of scouts(scouts are not trained soldiers after all),
wait for a confirmation, maybe a classic setup, then pull the trigger. the trigger could be several scout trades, and add more positions as the trend continues in our favour, and hopefully catch long runs. (thats how the turtles made their money after all)..If the scouts "get lost", we simply cut them off and look for better entries, assuming of cos that the scouts are extremely small entries...these are just a few thoughts..
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  • #55,409
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:48am Aug 5, 2013 3:48am
Quote: I've chosen to bank ~the **25 level before the Services PMI data as this is the safer way to trade intra day

and now we can see that I would have made more pips if I had either stayed in that trade - or banked half and kept half open.....however, I am already well above my minimum daily quota and UJ looks like it is setting up for a buy so I'm finished until pre NYO 1......BFN
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  • #55,410
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:49am Aug 5, 2013 3:49am
Quoting St3ve
{quote} I thought about writing a completely different, "not-so-friendly" answer, but hey .. it's monday morning and even though market feds me up by not moving in my desired direction I don't want to pass that mood to others
By the market not moving in your desired direction, it really is! See, the MMs are maneuvering the price to load up for the runs you are looking to happen.

That should be enough "happy news" to justify you being real nasty!
  • #55,411
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:50am Aug 5, 2013 3:50am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} More important is GU is rocking to the sky.
Which is quite logical because MMs are bears and looking for better shorts
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  • #55,412
  • Aug 5, 2013 3:55am Aug 5, 2013 3:55am
GU entered Short at 1/2 number with good volume after a good drive up = MM's are bears.
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  • #55,413
  • Aug 5, 2013 4:04am Aug 5, 2013 4:04am
Quoting loeil
{quote} Which is quite logical because MMs are bears and looking for better shorts {image}
Quoting worldfreedom
GU entered Short at 1/2 number with good volume after a good drive up = MM's are bears. {image}
Yep. The GU bear MMs ran the price up to within about 12 pips of RDH. With a 120 pips range, all the shorts they are loading up on during the topping of this Pump & Dump move, will gain 100 pips easy, when they move the price back down and reach RDL. But, the US MMs might hike the price even more. They are very good at doing that. And this is the first day of the week, and this is the day the MMs typically spend moving price to where their position building is advantaged, ahead of opposite moves planned for maybe later in the week.
  • #55,414
  • Edited 4:33am Aug 5, 2013 4:14am | Edited 4:33am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Yep. The GU bear MMs ran the price up to within about 12 pips of RDH. With a 120 pips range, all the shorts they are loading up on during the topping of this Pump & Dump move, will gain 100 pips easy, when they move the price back down and reach RDL. But, the US MMs might hike the price even more. They are very good at doing that. And this is the first day of the week, and this is the day the MMs typically spend moving price to where their position building is advantaged, ahead of opposite moves planned for maybe later in the week....
I'm with you on this - and I prefer to wait for the Dragons - especially the 5m - to "catch up" with the price - at present its ~50 pips lower. A couple of hours with price holding around the **50 level should allow the 5m to get up there too...

PS I should add that, on looking, I do not see sufficient actual tick volume on the 15m & 60 min charts to suggest that this rally is finished and I bought the pull back to ~the **50 level / 1m Dragon, looking for ~the **00 into NYO 1.
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  • #55,415
  • Edited 4:41am Aug 5, 2013 4:31am | Edited 4:41am
the usd index is under a lot of pressure..on the H1 currently at a support, we could see a bounce here, which would drop the EU and GU...the H4 outlook still points to a futher weakening of the USD...but all these is my technical interpretation..
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  • #55,416
  • Aug 5, 2013 4:38am Aug 5, 2013 4:38am
Quoting omadivi
the usd index is under a lot of pressure..on the H1 currently at a support, we could see a bounce here, which would drop the EU and GU...the H4 outlook still points to a futher weakening of the USD...but all these is my technical interpretation.. {image} {image}

This is Sonic's thread, so why are you posting NON Sonic charts?? They are of no interest here and I would suggest that you remove them and make an analysis based on the systems used in this thread.
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  • #55,417
  • Aug 5, 2013 4:39am Aug 5, 2013 4:39am
Hello sonicers,

anyone still in EG short? It's in RDL now.
  • #55,418
  • Aug 5, 2013 4:41am Aug 5, 2013 4:41am
AU Comment:

This is a Sonic R. System Classic long setup at this time.

M15 shows the increased volume when the MMs drove the price down, eventually below the lower half SR. Also, you can see how the MMs later held the price just below the whole number while they continued to load up (consolidatiion), and now again just above the whole number as they continue to do so. PVSRA indicates the MMs are bulls. Keep in mind that the US MMs might also put on a long gathering price drive down later,.....possible Double Bottom? Anyway, if they do, it would be an opportunity to add a long Scout to the trade.
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  • #55,419
  • Aug 5, 2013 4:42am Aug 5, 2013 4:42am
Quoting Islander
{quote} This is Sonic's thread, so why are you posting NON Sonic charts?? They are of no interest here and I would suggest that you remove them and make an analysis based on the systems used in this thread.


YES BOSS!!
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  • #55,420
  • Aug 5, 2013 4:55am Aug 5, 2013 4:55am
EA Comment:

This is a Sonic R. System Classic short setup at this time.

M15 shows high volume when the MMs earlier ran the price up. We can also see how the MMs have been holding the price just above the whole number as they add shorts (consolidation). PVSRA indicates the MMs are bears. Keep in mind the US MMs might drive price back up to also get more shorts.
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