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  • #55,081
  • Edited 4:20am Aug 1, 2013 3:55am | Edited 4:20am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} No risk management ... inevitable conclusion ... {image}
Mingary,

Who said there is no risk management? There is risk management. It is measured and analyzed differently due to the trading method being different. Tymedu has posted some very clear, understandable information on it here. A few others, also.

Get with the program. The world is no longer flat! Sign up and get your free PVSRA spyglass, and see for yourself that the world is round!

Really, Mingary, just look at your FF posts! You post all over the FF places, and about stuff that hardly matters! Certainly not about anything that is helping others turn their forex trading experience into a profitable one, as is being done here on the Sonic R. System thread. Why don't you consider settling down and finding yourself a home? You are welcome here any time.

If our Classic and Scout styles of trading do not appeal to you, and if you are successful yourself, then why not start your own thread instead of expending your energies without fruit at so many other places, over so many diverse and valueless topics? It seems you might be a scalper. If so, Islander's postings here might resonate with you.

-tah
  • #55,082
  • Aug 1, 2013 4:04am Aug 1, 2013 4:04am
Quoting traderathome
GU Comment: There go the bulls! Timed, of course, to the first GBP release. Yeah, like that fools anyone. Well, maybe it does fool a lot of traders, but it doesn't fool us Sonicers, because with PVSRA we know this is not bullish, it is Bear MMs putting on bullish PA to build bigger short positions. Just another SL hunt and grab for premium priced shorts above the upper whole SR. And timed to the first GBP release by the dirty rotten stinking banks as a deceipt. 1. Good place to plant more seeds if you have not already done so.........
TAH
now GBPUSD play around 1.52000 (round number)
MM learn from you PVRSA
  • #55,083
  • Aug 1, 2013 4:25am Aug 1, 2013 4:25am
Hello Sonicers! What am I supposed to know to use Sonic the system at 100%?
And where can I find the material on PVRSA?
My English is very poor, there is a Russian users Sonicr?
Thanks in advance for the detailed answer!
  • #55,084
  • Edited 6:53am Aug 1, 2013 4:29am | Edited 6:53am
Quoting meirk
{quote} TAH now GBPUSD play around 1.52000 (round number) MM learn from you PVRSA
MM's Learning PVSRA? That Sounds Like Putting the Cart Before the Horse!

meirk,

The folks referrred to as MMs, those that can move prices, have habits. These are the same habits of their "forefathers", the same habits ingrained into all professional traders. They cannot help themselves but to have such habits. These habits are fueled by greed, avarice and arrogance.

PVSRA simply recognizes these habits exist and uses them to analyze the market, to indicate if the MMs are bulls or bears no matter in which direction they happen to be moving the price. When done properly, PVSRA shows us the "Ultimate Intent" of the MMs up/down price moves. It might turn out to be that PVSRA is as close to the "Trader's Holy Grail" as we will ever get.

I attach GJ as a good and most recent example. PVSRA started to indicate the MMs were bulls, even though they were putting on bearish PA. The key is in knowing if the MMs are bulls or bears. That gives us the "Ultimate Intent" of the market. The bull MMs were putting on bearish PA in order to suck in shorts so they could build longs. PVSRA clearly indicated this deception, real-time,....while it was happening!

PVSRA is the most elegantly simple and effective market analysis there is! As such, it is the perfect match for the elegantly simple and effective Sonic R. System of Classic and Scout trades. We have an unbeatable combination of trade style and analysis!

What is truly amazing is that PVSRA is still an "in-work" project. Many here are applying PVSRA to different methods of determining when to first enter a Scout trade and start position building. Regardless of the variances here, all are experiencing success over their previous non-PVSRA trading! Simply amazing!

-tah
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  • #55,085
  • Aug 1, 2013 5:11am Aug 1, 2013 5:11am
Quoting ruslanhowp
hello sonicers! What am i supposed to know to use sonic the system at 100%? And where can i find the material on pvrsa? My english is very poor, there is a russian users sonicr? Thanks in advance for the detailed answer!
Руслан, а по имени не понятно кто тут кто? В личку пиши если что.
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #55,086
  • Aug 1, 2013 5:36am Aug 1, 2013 5:36am
Quoting ruslanhowp
hello sonicers! What am i supposed to know to use sonic the system at 100%? And where can i find the material on pvrsa? My english is very poor, there is a russian users sonicr? Thanks in advance for the detailed answer!
Читайте пост 1 и все связано в нем.
  • #55,087
  • Aug 1, 2013 5:44am Aug 1, 2013 5:44am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Читайте пост 1 и все связано в нем.
BRAVO!
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #55,088
  • Aug 1, 2013 5:55am Aug 1, 2013 5:55am
Quoting DmitryFX
{quote} BRAVO!
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #55,089
  • Aug 1, 2013 5:57am Aug 1, 2013 5:57am
For all russian speakers, one of my favourite songs:
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Sorry for offtop
  • #55,090
  • Aug 1, 2013 6:01am Aug 1, 2013 6:01am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} MM's Learning PVSRA? That Sounds Like Putting the Cart Before the Horse! meirk, The folks referrred to as MMs, those that can move prices, have habits. These are the same habits of their "forefathers", the same habits ingrained into all professional traders. They cannot help themselves but to have such habits. These habits are fueled by greed, avarice and arrogance. PVSRA simply recognizes these habits exist and uses them to analyze the market, to indicate if the MMs are bulls or bears no matter in which direction they happen to be moving...
the only solid thing here is pvrsa' and we are lucky to get it from you
I wonder if ever we can improve on EP,TP or at least can define when they start to run for profit
  • #55,091
  • Aug 1, 2013 6:04am Aug 1, 2013 6:04am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Читайте пост 1 и все связано в нем.
Ha! Whats your fee
  • #55,092
  • Aug 1, 2013 6:06am Aug 1, 2013 6:06am
A quick update: Sorry, got work soon but here it is.

GJ yesterday was.. once again ruthless. I ended up closing my other trades (UJ for +0.3%, and UC&EU for -0.6%). Around there roughly. That freed me up a lot of margin and bullets to handle GJ. As you know, GJ has started it's run for profits and have placed me almost at BE! So I have added 5 trades for UJ, UC, and EU each as my margin has increased. I have also done some experimental EA trading on the AU unrelated to PVSRA so ignore those. So I'm back in the trade for those pairs. I just have to be dynamic in my trading to reallocate resources. :-) I'll do a more detailed update when I have time. Here are the newest charts:

EU short: Have not started it's run for profits yet so still getting a great price.
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GJ long: Almost at BE now. This is my meat and potatoes trade at the moment. Been building this one about a week.
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UC long: Still at consolidation and not yet in profit release.
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UJ long: The initial stage of profit release / trend reversal happening. You can see a great classic sonic trade on both the M15 and H1. I've missed my best scouts (although I did close previous with a profit). It would have been better to have kept those trades as I would have been in nice profits by now. But due to GJ circumstances, it was smarter to close. Now I'm back in the game as a classic long trade.
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That's all folks!
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #55,093
  • Aug 1, 2013 6:32am Aug 1, 2013 6:32am
Quoting qFish
A quick update: as a classic long trade. {image} That's all folks!
If you want to use Sonic Trade Level Indicator to show the positions in a better fashion, you can turn off MT4 trade levels from Tools/Option/charts by remove the check mark from Show trade levels, ...
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  • #55,094
  • Aug 1, 2013 7:13am Aug 1, 2013 7:13am
! Danger HIGH VOLATILITY Danger !

Fifteen minutes to launch! Hard hats required on all "at-site" workers and spectators!
  • #55,095
  • Aug 1, 2013 7:21am Aug 1, 2013 7:21am
Quoting traderathome
! Danger HIGH VOLATILITY Danger ! Fifteen minutes to launch! Hard hats required on all "at-site" workers and spectators!
exactly.....lets wait what he is gonna say
  • #55,096
  • Aug 1, 2013 7:37am Aug 1, 2013 7:37am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Читайте пост 1 и все связано в нем.

Бля я в шоке ТАХ по русски пиздит!!!
There is no spoon....
  • #55,097
  • Aug 1, 2013 7:46am Aug 1, 2013 7:46am
Quoting msis125125
{quote} Бля я в шоке ТАХ по русски пиздит!!!
России стукач или рывке? Будут деньги оставить, чтобы заплатить за выстрелы?
  • #55,098
  • Aug 1, 2013 7:51am Aug 1, 2013 7:51am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} России стукач или рывке? Будут деньги оставить, чтобы заплатить за выстрелы?
rofl, make my day.

EU fromed nice shadows, anyway going add to the short position if it shows some weakness at 1.325 level
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Be coherent with your strategy
  • #55,099
  • Aug 1, 2013 7:55am Aug 1, 2013 7:55am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} России стукач или рывке? Будут деньги оставить, чтобы заплатить за выстрелы?
Hmm now I see that it is Google translate. Should've stick with small phrases!
There is no spoon....
  • #55,100
  • Aug 1, 2013 7:56am Aug 1, 2013 7:56am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Mingary, Who said there is no risk management? There is risk management. It is measured and analyzed differently due to the trading method being different. Tymedu has posted some very clear, understandable information on it here. A few others, also. Get with the program. The world is no longer flat! Sign up and get your free PVSRA spyglass, and see for yourself that the world is round! Really, Mingary, just look at your FF posts! You post all over the FF places, and about stuff that hardly matters! Certainly not about anything that is helping...

Hi there,

Who said there is no risk management? There is risk management. It is measured and analyzed differently due to the trading method being different. Tymedu has posted some very clear, understandable information on it here. A few others, also.
==> My post was not directed against your methodology specifically.

Get with the program. The world is no longer flat! Sign up and get your free PVSRA spyglass, and see for yourself that the world is round!
==> What you call "PVSRA", been doing something similar well before I found your thread. You have helped me put a few things into focus. As the saying goes "when the student is ready the teacher appears".

Really, Mingary, just look at your FF posts! You post all over the FF places, and about stuff that hardly matters! Certainly not about anything that is helping others turn their forex trading experience into a profitable one, as is being done here on the Sonic R. System thread. Why don't you consider settling down and finding yourself a home? You are welcome here any time.
==> "Stuff that hardly matters" is all I can do on this web site. I keep the pertinent stuff to myself because this is a public forum. I just don't have the patience.

If our Classic and Scout styles of trading do not appeal to you, and if you are successful yourself, then why not start your own thread instead of expending your energies without fruit at so many other places, over so many diverse and valueless topics? It seems you might be a scalper. If so, Islander's postings here might resonate with you.
==> Profitable for the moment. I have my own threads, they are not meant to get any interest from anyone. They are just "place holders" for my stuff. I have no interest in following anyone.

==>Over all, I think you have something good here. All the best to you.
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