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  • #54,741
  • Jul 26, 2013 2:52pm Jul 26, 2013 2:52pm
UJ is going to get hammered down further. It's breaking below D1 dragon and is clearly weak. I'll be selling into any strength for sure.

This is the exact type of situation where I would be on the lookout for MM's being bears on M1 chart on any up moves and start building a position. We can easily test 92-95 area in coming weeks and I think we will.

Any decent size up moves followed by sonic short set ups on M15 should be high %.
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  • #54,742
  • Jul 26, 2013 3:47pm Jul 26, 2013 3:47pm
Hi all,
The lines "RW" and "RD" are based on what? How they are calculated and formed?
Thaks
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Sorry my bad English - My native language is Portuguese-BR
  • #54,743
  • Jul 26, 2013 3:59pm Jul 26, 2013 3:59pm
Quoting MichaelKiske
Hi all, The lines "RW" and "RD" are based on what? How they are calculated and formed? Thaks {image}
All TAH indicators have the information inside. You can open the indicator with MetaQuotes Editor and read.
Newbie trader
  • #54,744
  • Jul 26, 2013 3:59pm Jul 26, 2013 3:59pm
Quoting MichaelKiske
Hi all, The lines "RW" and "RD" are based on what? How they are calculated and formed? Thaks {image}
Go to the user notes in the Sonic Control Panel. It will tell you there.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #54,745
  • Jul 26, 2013 4:56pm Jul 26, 2013 4:56pm
Ok... Thanks
Sorry my bad English - My native language is Portuguese-BR
  • #54,746
  • Jul 26, 2013 5:11pm Jul 26, 2013 5:11pm
Closed EJ for 1500 pips plus started building UJ long.

Total week profit 1580+580 sums as 2160 pips. Closed 2 pairs UJ EJ.
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There is no spoon....
  • #54,747
  • Jul 27, 2013 8:39am Jul 27, 2013 8:39am
For the weekend:
http://content.stamen.com/visualizin...ions_on_nasdaq

Visuals for how MM operate. Notice trading activity at start and end of day...
  • #54,748
  • Jul 27, 2013 9:20am Jul 27, 2013 9:20am
I need help.

PVSRA will win most of the time if you trade small enough, but the drawdowns can be severe. Three dragons trade with trend in the classic Sonic Way. There must be a way to meld the two together. What we have to find out is while PVSRA is building positions, what part of our trading capital should be directed towards Three Dragons?

If we can find this out, we can use a wee bit more leverage when trading PVSRA.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #54,749
  • Jul 27, 2013 9:44am Jul 27, 2013 9:44am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UCad Long Trade: Added longs #2 thru #7 yesterday and today, Scouts. Adjusted TP. {image}
UCad Long Trade: Added longs #8 thru #15 this week (catching up on posting). Each entry was based on M1 PVSRA indicating the MMs were bulls. As you can see, they continued the price lower. It might or might not finally be basing for a bull run for profits.
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  • #54,750
  • Jul 27, 2013 9:50am Jul 27, 2013 9:50am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} CHFJPY Short Trade: Added short #9, Scout. M1 PVSRA attached. {image} {image}
CHFJPY Short Trade: Added shorts #10 thru #12, Scouts (catching up on posting). Entries were based on M1 PVSRA indicating the MMs are bears.
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  • #54,751
  • Jul 27, 2013 10:11am Jul 27, 2013 10:11am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UJ Long Trade: Added longs #6 thru #10, Scouts, some late yesterday and some just now. PVSRA shows the MMs keep "surprise hammering" this down, and then pouring on their trades at the lowered prices. This is the market makers at work for the dirty rotten stinking big banks, that have placed orders low, but near enough to temp the market makers to "go for it" for their commissions and for their own little plays, which are very nice for them since they know exactly where they are going to get their own personall orders filled! Adjusted...
UJ Long Trade: Added longs #11 thru #15, Scouts (catching up on posting). Entries were based on M1 PVSRA indicating the MMs are bulls, even as they drove the price lower.
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  • #54,752
  • Jul 27, 2013 10:16am Jul 27, 2013 10:16am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Short Trade: Added shorts #11 thru #13. Scouts. Shorts #11 and #12 were added last week soon after #10. It was a busy week and as with some others that I will update later, I did not get around to doing so at the time. I just added #13. Adjusted TP. {image}
EU Short Trade: Added shorts #14 thru #20. Scouts (catching up on posting). Entries were based on M1 PVSRA indicating the MMs are bears, even as they drove the price higher.
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  • #54,753
  • Jul 27, 2013 10:26am Jul 27, 2013 10:26am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GU Short Trade: Added shorts #20 and #21, Scouts. {image}
GU Short Trade: Added shorts #22 and #29, Scouts (catching up on posting). Entries were based on M1 PVSRA indicating the MMs are bears, even as they continued pushing the price higher.
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  • #54,754
  • Jul 27, 2013 11:00am Jul 27, 2013 11:00am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Short Trade: Added shorts #14 thru #20. Scouts (catching up on posting). Entries were based on M1 PVSRA indicating the MMs are bears, even as they drove the price higher. {image}
Patience is the key - I see no need for firing 6 bullets in that area.

Holding my bullets for now...

Regards,

H.
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #54,755
  • Edited 12:16pm Jul 27, 2013 11:21am | Edited 12:16pm
PVSRA Results for 1st Seventeen Weeks

The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see.

Week ending 04/05
1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/12
1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/19
2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/26
2640 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 34 parts (all parts winners), averaging 77+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/03
2530 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 24 parts (23 parts winners), averaging 105+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/10
3050 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 33 parts (all parts winners), averaging 92+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/17
1590 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 16 parts (all parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/24
3980 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 40 parts (33 parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/31
4003 pips gained, 5 trades totaling 37 parts (34 parts winners), averaging 108+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 06/07
9813 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 61 parts (53 parts winners), averaging 160+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/14
3900 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 15 parts (all parts winners), averaging 260+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/21
4620 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 33 parts (all parts winners), averaging 140+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/28
12,120 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 86 parts (82 parts winners), averaging 140+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/05
3,440 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 22 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 156+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/12
14,143 pips gained, 11 trades totaling 125 parts (115 parts winners), averaging 113+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/19
215 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 7 parts (all parts winners), averaging 30+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/26
1,170 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 25 parts (16 parts winners), averaging 46+ pips per each of all parts

All of these trades, all of the trade parts thereof, were posted real-time right here on the Sonic R. System thread, using crystal clear easy to understand charts and explanations regarding PVSRA reasons for entries, whether Classic or Scout trades.

Seventeen Week Summary

72,554 pips banked.
9.801 pips current draw down (net loss of all open PVSRA trades).
62,753 pips net gain (pips banked plus net loss of all open PVSRA trades).
3,691 pips weekly average net profit (weekly average net profit if all open PVSRA trades instantly closed).

Additional Remarks

I have one open non-PVSRA trade (first entered many months prior to PVSRA) that is down 14,254 pips (EJ short). For this trade to come into profit either the euro needs to weaken or the YEN needs to strengthen, or both. And both are more likely to happen than not. So, it is just a question of time. In any case, if I instantly closed this trade against my PVSRA net gains, I would still have 2,853 pips weekly average net profit over these past seventeen weeks! I doubt there are many traders at ForexFactory that can testify to such success as this, if any at all. I say this not to boast about myself, but about PVSRA. It is an effective real-time market analysis, so effective that it negates the old "truth" advocated by some, that one should never average down. It enables traders to trade the way professional traders do,.......and profit the way they do!

Final Remarks

This past week the market continued it's shakeout of weak hand for some pairs. For me, it continued as a time of adding to some open trades and opening some new trades, and therefore few trades were closed and most all open trades suffered draw downs. So, this "state of affairs" that intimidates traders and tests the validity of PVSRA has not yet come to a conclusion.

-tah
  • #54,756
  • Jul 27, 2013 12:13pm Jul 27, 2013 12:13pm
Quoting hansma
{quote} Patience is the key - I see no need for firing 6 bullets in that area. Holding my bullets for now... Regards, H. {image}
The need is that when position building, we add at levels we see as appropriate because we can never know when the market will reverse. You are assuming an "ultimate" high area. You might be right. But if price is not taken up there by the MMs, positions now taken may turn out to be near the reversal highs. And if the price does go higher, the position gets built more, the average goes higher, and the ultimate profits become larger. All without needing to reliably predict the "top". It is easier and less reliant on being a "market predictor".
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  • #54,757
  • Jul 27, 2013 3:49pm Jul 27, 2013 3:49pm
islander this might help you in your three dragon system for exiting trades
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we DONT know where price will go the next second so trust your indicator
  • #54,758
  • Edited Jul 28, 2013 2:43am Jul 27, 2013 11:05pm | Edited Jul 28, 2013 2:43am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} The need is that when position building, we add at levels we see as appropriate because we can never know when the market will reverse. You are assuming an "ultimate" high area. You might be right. But if price is not taken up there by the MMs, positions now taken may turn out to be near the reversal highs. And if the price does go higher, the position gets built more, the average goes higher, and the ultimate profits become larger. All without needing to reliably predict the "top". It is easier and less reliant on being a "market predictor"....

Your EU average spacing is around 13 pips. If you continue this the amount of elements are enormous. For example a 1000 pips move will result in 77 (1000/13=77) trade elements, if the price is at the top of this move your drawdown will be 38.500 pips (77 x 500 (position average pips)). And we had much stronger trends in the history, for example a 3000 pips move will raise your drawdown to 346.154 pips (3000/13 x 1500 (average price)), a 6000 pips move will raise your drawdown to 1.384.615 pips (6000/13 x 3000). Be assured despite of trading small 0.01 lots Mister Margin Call did ring. And that's for only one pair.

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We are not MM's, do not have unlimited funds. Practicable trading?
  • #54,759
  • Jul 28, 2013 4:39am Jul 28, 2013 4:39am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} .......Be assured despite of trading small 0.01 lots Mister Margin Call did ring. And that's for only one pair.
So THAT is the cause of the ringing in my ears! And it also explains my sudden
urge to read "For Whom the Bell Tolls."



All kidding aside, I did get to hear the ring of Mister Margin Call, and it's not a pretty sound.
My main problem was not having an account large enough to withstand the draw down.
That's also another way of saying that I overtraded by getting caught up in the eupohria
of the moment. I don't see that as a negative view of PVSRA. I was totally to blame for it.

Furthermore, the event(s) got me thinking that, if the BB's can see where we place stops,
then they can surely see where larger chunks of cash can be "stolen" by moving the price
to create a margin call on accounts. In effect, margin calls are the ultimate stop loss! I can
see them salivating like mad dogs when the pa gets near those margin percentages now.

Another recurring problem I have is knowing when to get out of a trade. I could have
stopped the bleeding several times, but continually refused to do so. Actually, "knowing"
isn't the right word choice. I know full well at the time, but I guess greed is the culprit.

Don't shed any tears for me though. I'm still alive and kicking, and learning more from each
mistake I make along the way. The events haven't made me doubt the value of PVSRA.
They have only added to my knowledge of how to approach things.

ps - JMN5611, your change in attitude has been like a breath of fresh air. I have always
thought you would/could be a wonderful contributor here if you dropped the "I'm always
right and you're always wrong" approach you had in the beginning. Now we can share
in your knowledge without having to be in constant fear of another tirade. I extend my
heart-felt thanks and a hearty "welcome to the fold."



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  • #54,760
  • Jul 28, 2013 5:40am Jul 28, 2013 5:40am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} So THAT is the cause of the ringing in my ears! And it also explains my sudden urge to read "For Whom the Bell Tolls." All kidding aside, I did get to hear the ring of Mister Margin Call, and it's not a pretty sound. My main problem was not having an account large enough to withstand the draw down. That's also another way of saying that I overtraded by getting caught up in the eupohria of the moment. I don't see that as a negative view of PVSRA. I was totally to blame for it. Furthermore, the event(s) got me thinking that, if the...

Thank You. I was too hasty to make a judgement. tah is just trying to compile the strongest set of tools he can.

Regarding the margin call. I am not in the broker recommending business, but there is a broker out there that allows you to trade with as small as 1/100 of a penny. That means you can take a small account and trade as if you have a very large one. In my particular case, I opened what I call a dinner money account and then traded the minimum size possible. That gave me about 700 bullets. That way I can trade like a monkey and just push buy or sell every time I see a climax bar in the right place. I do not have to consider spacing or anything like that. Joe, the PVSRA chimp trader!

This way, you can hold for a long as you want and get out of the trade when you are in profit. Like I said earlier I am trying to nail down how much capital to put towards PVSRA and how much to put towards the Three Dragons.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
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