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  • #54,281
  • Jul 22, 2013 4:09am Jul 22, 2013 4:09am
Quoting loeil
For the EMA's guys here.. Your people are already forgotten TAH's words "All you need is already provided there, and only what you need!" So I don't understand, what's the problem. Why you don't want to keep your charts clean and simple? PVSRA it's not enough for you? Maybe the problem is that you don't understand the PVSRA. Then it's time to read and learn. The second choice is to make a new thread something like EMA's system or whatever. The only way to beat the MMs is PVSRA. Who is not believing it, read this PDF "Beat the Market Maker"....
Thank you for hinting somethings inside
  • #54,282
  • Edited 4:48am Jul 22, 2013 4:22am | Edited 4:48am
Quoting loeil
For the EMA's guys here.. Your people are already forgotten TAH's words "All you need is already provided there, and only what you need!" So I don't understand, what's the problem. Why you don't want to keep your charts clean and simple? PVSRA it's not enough for you? Maybe the problem is that you don't understand the PVSRA. Then it's time to read and learn. The second choice is to make a new thread something like EMA's system or whatever. The only way to beat the MMs is PVSRA. Who is not believing it, read this PDF "Beat the Market Maker"....
Loeil,

Thank you for that post, and for the "Beat the Market Maker" PDF with it.

I am with Redddz about this, but you can't change human nature, which is to tinker with what you are presented with in hopes of coming up with something even better. And, it sometimes happens, too! But, it isn't going to happen by piling up price derivative lagging indicators on a chart. But, you can't tell newbies that because they won't listen. They suspect otherwise, and so off they go.

I am not knocking what Islander does. He is down on the M1 chart scalping for 20-30 sometimes 50 pips. And he is doing it at the right time of the day and he is not overstaying his "welcome" in the market. He is in and then he is out. Three MAs (the Dragon and the proxy of the Dragon from two other TFs), or Classic Sonic R. with the Dragon and Trend (two MAs), either way works. But it is his baby and so when seeing it, a part of the flock drops their focus and waddles over to see what the excitement is about. And Islander has been the total gentleman in maintaining links to the Sonic R. System in presenting what he does. So if it helps some that for some reason have been struggling, then it is part of the good works that go on around here.

The important thing is that Islander has taken up the ongoing demonstration of what he has presented, just as Sonic has done. This it good because repetition is the mother of learning. And we are all here to learn, grow and increase our profits. Islander is profitable and so he is a good person for others to watch and learn from, so they too can become profitable.

We are all blessed by having such quality traders as Sonic and Islander participating in this thread, quality in that they not only know what they are doing, they are also willing to freely share it, and (and this is what separates folks like Sonic and Islander from so many others).....they continue to demonstrate what they do. My God, you can pay thousands of dollars for "systems" and even the most expensive of them only provide a "sort of" ongoing support for maybe 90 days, if you're lucky! And then there are those "phantom traders" that drop in and post their "BS stuff" but are never here on a regular basis posting trades as examples to help others. Some of you know exactly the kind of people I am talking about.

So, thank your lucky stars we have folks like Sonic and Islander!

-tah
  • #54,283
  • Jul 22, 2013 4:33am Jul 22, 2013 4:33am
Quoting loeil
For the EMA's guys here.. Your people are already forgotten TAH's words "All you need is already provided there, and only what you need!" So I don't understand, what's the problem. Why you don't want to keep your charts clean and simple? PVSRA it's not enough for you? Maybe the problem is that you don't understand the PVSRA. Then it's time to read and learn. The second choice is to make a new thread something like EMA's system or whatever. The only way to beat the MMs is PVSRA. Who is not believing it, read this PDF "Beat the Market Maker"....
I have spent time doing trading with PVSRA tool and several super-indicators. It's interesting how when you build all positions, the super-indicators indicate the opposite of what will happen as PVSRA. In the end, the price always ends up going PVSRA side, and just changing color indicators: TOO LATE.

Thanks loeil
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  • #54,284
  • Jul 22, 2013 4:58am Jul 22, 2013 4:58am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UChf Long Trade: Used a Scout to add long #2 to the Classic trade as the MMs pushed price down below whole SR to add longs. Adjusted TP. {image}
UChf Long Trade: Used another Scout to add long #3 to the Classic trade as the MMs continued pushing the price down, this time below the 3/4 SR, and with volumes notably increased at the lows. This is confirmed on M1 and so PVSRA is indicating strong bulls now. Adjusted TP.
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  • #54,285
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:00am Jul 22, 2013 5:00am
Quoting Vietnamese
{quote} Hi J3r0m3, this is H4 of UJ, we could see the trend line I draw, uj reacted to this trend line, I think this will help we see the big picture. {image}
Hi Vietnamese,
so you're saying that I should not have entered at all, is that correct?
Make pips, not war!
  • #54,286
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:05am Jul 22, 2013 5:05am
Hello all,

I have been following this thread for a few weeks and was just wondering - in terms of the recent developments (PVSRA) and TAH's posts - what is the best page on the thread to start to read from to catch up to the latest developments to the system?
Money is the result derived from the execution of a skillset
  • #54,287
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:07am Jul 22, 2013 5:07am
Quoting Marquis
Hello all, I have been following this thread for a few weeks and was just wondering - in terms of the recent developments (PVSRA) and TAH's posts - what is the best page on the thread to start to read from to catch up to the latest developments to the system?

Page 1.
  • #54,288
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:09am Jul 22, 2013 5:09am
Sonicers, look at the great manipulation on EURUSD pair - the clear BEAR manipulation. Personally I think it is the last one. Maybe price will be pushed up a little bit to be at 3205 approximately, but the momentum seems to be over.
Hunting High and Low
  • #54,289
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:10am Jul 22, 2013 5:10am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} Page 1.
I was really hoping for a useful reply not a sarcastic one..
Money is the result derived from the execution of a skillset
  • #54,290
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:13am Jul 22, 2013 5:13am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Short Trade: Added shorts #9 and #10. Scouts. Adjusted TP. {image}
EU Short Trade: Added shorts #11 thru #13. Scouts. Shorts #11 and #12 were added last week soon after #10. It was a busy week and as with some others that I will update later, I did not get around to doing so at the time. I just added #13. Adjusted TP.
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  • #54,291
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:19am Jul 22, 2013 5:19am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GU Short Trade: Added short #19. Scout. M1 PVSRA attached. Adjusted TP. {image} {image}
GU Short Trade: Added shorts #20 and #21, Scouts.
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  • #54,292
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:19am Jul 22, 2013 5:19am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} EU short trade Adjusted TP {image}
EU short trade

Added scout short #7

Bearish MM's are pushing price above 3/4 number with high volume.

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  • #54,293
  • Edited 8:48am Jul 22, 2013 5:23am | Edited 8:48am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GA Short Trade: Added short #6 yesterday, Scout. Adjusted TP. {image}
GA Short Trade: Added short #7, Scout. Adjusted TP.
  • #54,294
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:24am Jul 22, 2013 5:24am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} GU short trade Adjusted TP {image}
GU short trade

Added scout short #6,7.

Same reason as EU, PVSRA indicates that MM's are still Bears.

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  • #54,295
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:37am Jul 22, 2013 5:37am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UChf Long Trade: Used another Scout to add long #3 to the Classic trade as the MMs continued pushing the price down, this time below the 3/4 SR, and with volumes notably increased at the lows. This is confirmed on M1 and so PVSRA is indicating strong bulls now. Adjusted TP. {image}
Another rejection up at the year highs again.. looks like the MMs want the little dollar to print .9150 on the narrow & .9050 on the wide for this round.. Make sure you have a bail-out stop in place as your "strong M1 bull" Scout may be leading your Classic trade astray here.. same goes for all your EU & GU Classic shorts..
  • #54,296
  • Jul 22, 2013 5:56am Jul 22, 2013 5:56am
Thank you TAH for your well thought out comments.

IF Sonic - and TAH - feel that my posting of my suggested alternative use of their indicators goes against what they wish to see here, then I am certain that they will send my a polite PM asking me to stop.

Meanwhile, please remember what I said in the very first line of my Word Document....."This work in progress is for experienced traders......."

So let me make clear what I mean by this - traders who have several thousand hours of screen and trading time.

Experience can only come from time put in on a subject - a person may go to a university / college and get a degree, but they will then need some - and probably a LOT - of hands on experience before they can properly make use of their degree.

Trading is no different - in fact, IMO, it is a LOT harder!

Back to the charts - I have been out for a couple of hours, so as per Sonic's rule, here's a late posted chart of some opportunities in EurUsd....
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  • #54,297
  • Jul 22, 2013 6:10am Jul 22, 2013 6:10am
Hi to all.
GBPUSD:
Closed 18 parts. 18 x 300 = +5400 pips
Same trades on 3 accounts = +16200 pips

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...58#post6801658
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...06#post6809006

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I'm still in AU.

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  • #54,298
  • Jul 22, 2013 6:16am Jul 22, 2013 6:16am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Loeil, Thank you for that post, and for the "Beat the Market Maker" PDF with it. I am with Redddz about this, but you can't change human nature, which is to tinker with what you are presented with in hopes of coming up with something even better. And, it sometimes happens, too! But, it isn't going to happen by piling up price derivative lagging indicators on a chart. But, you can't tell newbies that because they won't listen. They suspect otherwise, and so off they go. I am not knocking what Islander does. He is down on the M1 chart scalping...
Although it's early days.. are we potentially considering a further entry type for Sonic? We have Scouts, classics and "pure" PVSRA scouts? So could this not be achieved in the sense that they share comment elements?
  • #54,299
  • Jul 22, 2013 6:20am Jul 22, 2013 6:20am
Quoting Catcher777
Hi to all. GBPUSD: Closed 18 parts. 18 x 300 = +5400 pips Same trades on 3 accounts = +16200 pips http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...58#post6801658 http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...06#post6809006 {image} {image} I'm still in AU. {image}
Wow, nicely done Catcher777 very good job! Keep you going.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #54,300
  • Jul 22, 2013 6:24am Jul 22, 2013 6:24am
Quoting loeil
{quote} Wow, nicely done Catcher777 very good job! Keep you going.
Thx loeil.
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