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  • #53,441
  • Jul 12, 2013 8:46am Jul 12, 2013 8:46am
I still can not determine the direction of the market. Now only following TAH . studying and operations.
Now my account is 4k. May I ask how much more appropriate for each hand. Currently I'm using a 0.01 lot.
  • #53,442
  • Jul 12, 2013 8:46am Jul 12, 2013 8:46am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} MMs, Gotta Luv 'Em! The beauty of what we are doing now is that the big players in the market cannot change. Their lust for profits, their propensity for deception and their inbred arrogance will never change. It is what they were, are and will always be. And like rabbits dropping little turds in their tracks, we see them for what they are, and win! -tah
TAH, Sonicdeejay. Good health and prosper for you both. My life is changed because two of you. Well done both of you. And personal thanx to TAH for telling me off and making me study post. If it wasn't for you I would work somewhere and felt miserable. Thank you folks.
There is no spoon....
  • #53,443
  • Jul 12, 2013 8:47am Jul 12, 2013 8:47am
Quoting Tymedu
EURAUD Starting to build short. For now just one entry because price went down straight after my short. I will add more if the price rises or if I find a good classic entry. I won't post every time I add because I prefer a clean thread and with TAH's, Islander's and so on I think it's enough. Just this first one to announce my short. {image}
Tymedu,

I am sorry to hear of this intention. Examples of where and why Classic and Scout components are added to a trade is critical for the development of the best use of PVSRA, which is part of what the "PVSRA in-work project" is all about. My trades are probably not a very good example. I hope to improve, perhaps by studying trades by you and by worldfreedom, because frankly my components frequently take on the appearance of having just peppered the range with entries. This thread needs improving examples of using Classic and Scouts qualified by PVSRA. And you are a valued contributor and a good trader. I hope you reconsider.

BTW, in case you have not noticed, the SonicR Control Panel includes Day Separators which (unlike those standard for MT4) can be colored, styled and excluded from the chart subwindow if you want.

-tah
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  • #53,444
  • Jul 12, 2013 8:52am Jul 12, 2013 8:52am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Tymedu, I am sorry to hear of this intention. Examples of where and why Classic and Scout components are added to a trade is critical for the development of the best use of PVSRA, which is part of what the "PVSRA in-work project" is all about. My trades are probably not a very good example. I hope to improve, perhaps by studying trades by you and by worldfreedom, because frankly my components frequently take on the appearance of having just peppered the range with entries. This thread needs improving examples of using Classic and Scouts...


How important would you say volume is TAH? I feel like S & R along with sonic "wave"/ trend analysis is enough, but I'm lacking in the understanding of volume. It seems complicated. Perhaps I need to study more to add another weapon to my arsenal.
  • #53,445
  • Jul 12, 2013 9:03am Jul 12, 2013 9:03am
Quoting traderathome
The beauty of what we are doing now is that the big players in the market cannot change.
Why do you think this TAH?
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  • #53,446
  • Jul 12, 2013 9:05am Jul 12, 2013 9:05am
Quoting Ck87
{quote} How important would you say volume is TAH? I feel like S & R along with sonic "wave"/ trend analysis is enough, but I'm lacking in the understanding of volume. It seems complicated. Perhaps I need to study more to add another weapon to my arsenal.
Is Volume Important?

Since the origination of this thread, some different "indicators" (in quotes because they are less indicating and more misleading) have crept in, have been tried, and have been discarded. Of them all, "volume" (in quotes because it is not true volume, just the count of trades executed on your broker server) is the single indicator, in addition to the Trend Line, that has survived and become a lasting part of the Sonic R. System.

Master Sonicdeejay himself has testified to the importance of "volume". Many traders, maybe most, totally discount the use of "volume". It is because they fail to realize it is the only non-price derivative metric in the markets, and they fail to realize the importance of this. Were it not for even the lousy form of "volume" we have, we would be having to work harder at studying candles and how they move around S&R in order to divine what our "volume" more quickly and reliably shows us.

In my opinion, "volume" is right up there with price action itself in importance. PVSRA does not exist without it. In fact, "volume" is the trigger signal in PVSRA. That is how important it is!

-tah
  • #53,447
  • Edited 9:24am Jul 12, 2013 9:11am | Edited 9:24am
Quoting fex
{quote} Why do you think this TAH?
The institutions look for these qualities in new hires (GREED, LUST FOR MONEY, WILLINGNESS TO BEND RULES [deception]), and then they condition the employees in such a way as to foster the developement and further growth of such "qualities". It is the psychosis of "Expectancy" that exits on "Wall Street", where employees are expected to expect themselves to succeed, no matter what.

............."Expectancy" INDOCTRINATION!

And to what purpose? For the purpose of gathering in the Almighty Dollar for the firms, no matter who they take it from and no matter how they take it,....the "Just don't get caught!" syndrome.

These are the bastards we are up against. Never forget that, because it adds the "Crusader" element to our trading.
  • #53,448
  • Jul 12, 2013 9:29am Jul 12, 2013 9:29am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Tymedu, I am sorry to hear of this intention. Examples of where and why Classic and Scout components are added to a trade is critical for the development of the best use of PVSRA, which is part of what the "PVSRA in-work project" is all about.
I decided that to keep the forum clear. I don't mind to publish my trades at all, but every day more guys are joining the thread and I don't want to saturate it, but I don't mind to share as you know.

EURAUD

I added a second scout after I see the pattern formed in 1H chart. I like that pattern a lot, that kind of evening star with higher volume in the 3rd candle of the pattern. I realized that maybe I'm a little bit late in my building position so I draw a fibo from the max to the min of the last candle of the pattern and I decide to enter when price touched (and stayed there for a couple of mins and rising volume) the 50%.

Now, with 2 scouts, I will just wait. I like the 1.4465-85 for my third scout. But I don't know if the price will reach that and if we will have a good volume opportunity to add. MM are bears imo, so let's build.

Best, Tymedu.
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  • #53,449
  • Jul 12, 2013 9:38am Jul 12, 2013 9:38am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} The institutions look for these qualities in new hires (GREED, LUST FOR MONEY, WILLINGNESS TO BEND RULES [deception]), and then they condition the employees in such a way as to foster the developement and further growth of such "qualities". It is the psychosis of "Expectancy" that exits on "Wall Street", where employees are expected to expect themselves to succeed, no matter what. ............."Expectancy" INDOCTRINATION! And to what purpose? For the purpose of gathering in the Almighty Dollar for the firms, no matter who they take...
Thanks prof.

The reason for my question is simple. As I have said on occasion, I'm not a trader, my job is to engineer (at home many years ago). On September 1st of 2012 I decided to learn forex, and spent many, many hours (at least 8 hours average absolutely every day) to study. I tested several strategies with more or less fortune. Now it's been 10 months since I started, and in my planning should decide on a strategy before September 1. Focus on it, practice it and squeeze it to death.

Of all the strategies I've seen (the most popular of the most popular forums) SonicR Classic and Scout (PVSRA) is the most comfortable I feel.

Would it be appropriate for a novice like me to start with this strategy?
(For this reason it is important for me to hear your views on whether MM can change their operational, although I understand that these changes can not be made quickly)

Thanks
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  • #53,450
  • Edited 10:02am Jul 12, 2013 9:46am | Edited 10:02am
Quoting fex
{quote} Thanks prof. The reason for my question is simple. As I have said on occasion, I'm not a trader, my job is to engineer (at home many years ago). On September 1st of 2012 I decided to learn forex, and spent many, many hours (at least 8 hours average absolutely every day) to study. I tested several strategies with more or less fortune. Now it's been 10 months since I started, and in my planning should decide on a strategy before September 1. Focus on it, practice it and squeeze it to death. Of all the strategies I've seen (the most popular...
Would it be appropriate for a novice like me to start with this strategy?

Why would it not be? You are here. You are a witness to the successes of other Soncers here. You are a witness that others that have never posted here before are now posting that they have been "silently" trading and experiencing success they never had! Do you not already know the answer to your question?

I am retired. I was an aerospace engineer. I like the Sonic R. System of Classic and Scout trades, made better I think by the advent of PVSRA. What else can I say?
  • #53,451
  • Jul 12, 2013 9:49am Jul 12, 2013 9:49am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} I decided that to keep the forum clear. I don't mind to publish my trades at all, but every day more guys are joining the thread and I don't want to saturate it, but I don't mind to share as you know. EURAUD I added a second scout after I see the pattern formed in 1H chart. I like that pattern a lot, that kind of evening star with higher volume in the 3rd candle of the pattern. I realized that maybe I'm a little bit late in my building position so I draw a fibo from the max to the min of the last candle of the pattern and I decide to enter...
Nice Find

I am with you on this, though not so quick and well positioned as you. Have you noticed the Day range is practically sitting atop the RWH mark? This push up is a good opportunity for bears.
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  • #53,452
  • Jul 12, 2013 10:03am Jul 12, 2013 10:03am
Quoting traderathome
Do you not already know the answer to your question?
Yes. Well, I did not know if there are other considerations (specific for this strategy) to take into account before deciding. Thank you very much.
Newbie trader
  • #53,453
  • Jul 12, 2013 10:05am Jul 12, 2013 10:05am
Quoting fex
{quote} Yes. Well, I did not know if there are other considerations (specific for this strategy) to take into account before deciding. Thank you very much.
fex,

If you put it that way, then "Yes." there is another consideration, specific to this strategy, to take into account before deciding.
  • #53,454
  • Jul 12, 2013 10:07am Jul 12, 2013 10:07am
Hello Tah,

Is there a reason you not shorting usd jpy?

The 15mins has very obvious bears. prices moving above 99.50 and then rapidly coming down stopping volume.

Please correct me if i am wrong thanks
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  • #53,455
  • Jul 12, 2013 10:09am Jul 12, 2013 10:09am
PVSRA, EA: Bulls or Bears?

PVSRA is cyrstal clear on this one right now. And "Thanks!" to Tymedu for pointing it out.
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  • #53,456
  • Jul 12, 2013 10:09am Jul 12, 2013 10:09am
EU Update

http://500euroalgiorno.blogspot.it/
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  • #53,457
  • Jul 12, 2013 10:12am Jul 12, 2013 10:12am
Quoting forexbert
Hello Tah, Is there a reason you not shorting usd jpy? The 15mins has very obvious bears. prices moving above 99.50 and then rapidly coming down stopping volume. Please correct me if i am wrong thanks {image}
If EU, GU, etc. start to drop it will denote dollar strength, which will work against UJ dropping, even as other YEN pairs might start dropping again.
  • #53,458
  • Jul 12, 2013 10:14am Jul 12, 2013 10:14am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} fex, If you put it that way, then "Yes." there is another consideration, specific to this strategy, to take into account before deciding.
Which one?
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  • #53,459
  • Jul 12, 2013 10:19am Jul 12, 2013 10:19am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} If EU, GU, etc. start to drop it will denote dollar strength, which will work against UJ dropping, even as other YEN pairs might start dropping again.
I see thanks. Personally i feel that there should be more dollar weakness yet to be come. eu and gu although are bears, but i like to see higher levels first.

But like you say tah, we will never know when they run for profit.

Hope for the best

thanks.
  • #53,460
  • Jul 12, 2013 10:23am Jul 12, 2013 10:23am
Quoting fex
{quote} Thanks prof. The reason for my question is simple. As I have said on occasion, I'm not a trader, my job is to engineer (at home many years ago). On September 1st of 2012 I decided to learn forex, and spent many, many hours (at least 8 hours average absolutely every day) to study. I tested several strategies with more or less fortune. Now it's been 10 months since I started, and in my planning should decide on a strategy before September 1. Focus on it, practice it and squeeze it to death. Of all the strategies I've seen (the most popular...
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Would it be appropriate for a novice like me to start with this strategy? Why would it not be? You are here. You are a witness to the successes of other Soncers here. You are a witness that others that have never posted here before are now posting that they have been "silently" trading and experiencing success they never had! Do you not already know the answer to your question? I am retired. I was an aerospace engineer. I like the Sonic R. System of Classic and Scout trades, made better I think by the advent of PVSRA. What else can I say?...
Quoting fex
{quote} Yes. Well, I did not know if there are other considerations (specific for this strategy) to take into account before deciding. Thank you very much.
Quoting traderathome
{quote} fex, If you put it that way, then "Yes." there is another consideration, specific to this strategy, to take into account before deciding.
Quoting fex
{quote} Which one?
Which One?

Aha! I was patiently waiting for you to ask. The answer is simple. It works! I guess that means it is better than all the others.
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