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  • #53,321
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:12am Jul 11, 2013 8:12am
Quoting traderathome
UJ Short Trade: Entered short #1, Scout. M1 PVSRA shows MMs pushed price up thru 1/4 SR and increased their trading, indicating they are bears pushing up price to add shorts. This could get pushed higher by the US open MMs for even better shorting opportunities. We will see. {image}
UJ Short Trade:

Closed trade for 12 pips gain. Wasting my time with this one.
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  • #53,322
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:17am Jul 11, 2013 8:17am
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} I think you sink your boat with dynamite bro!
Not at all a problem. You see, to catch fish that way we use PVSRA, .....Place Very Surely Really Away from the boat! Simple and effective!
  • #53,323
  • Edited 8:55am Jul 11, 2013 8:28am | Edited 8:55am
Quoting traderathome
EU Short Trade: Entered short #1, Classic. M1 PVSRA shows MMs suddenly pushing price back up thru half SR on increased activity, indicating they are bears pushing prices higher to add shorts. {image}
EU Short Trade: Entered shorts #2 and #3, Scouts. Short #3 was a placed pending order filled while I slept. I just entered #3 as the MMs pushed price back up a bit to add more shorts themselves, which is PVSRA confirmed on M1 via higher volumes on the push up and following. Adjusted TP.

Edit: Added short #4, Classic. Updated pic. Adjusted TP. Planting seeds.
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  • #53,324
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:31am Jul 11, 2013 8:31am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} jasakreatif, Maybe it is a language barrier, but you seem to fail in understanding the main, and quite valid, point of it all. Where I come from, you can fish the lake with a single giant hook, or..........you can throw ten sticks of dynamite out into the waters around your boat. Which way do you think you get more fish?
both of them quite valid , and about thousand pips = $100 , am i wrong ? , it is about analize before using a system , counting balance , timing holding trade .

you should accept that , your system need big balance and smaller or smallest lot , that how i learn around FF , i posted everywhere , and i posted what in my mind.

anyway its not same single giant and ten sticks, i've posted my study , and tested at here
Quoting jasakreatif
{quote} because last year we got many monthly trending move , and this year until this month we are on ranging , dont no what will happen next month. i have been backtested opposite multiple position with yearly data, and you can test it too, i posted the MULTILEVEL EA at here {quote} now if someone said trade with fix stoploss is bad , check this out , 3 type system. i building wave system , base on highlow , still on live test start from $20 {image} generally grid system , multiple position , limit and stop entry with trend start from $100 {image}...
anyway go on man... this year your trade better than last year, let it constant.
  • #53,325
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:32am Jul 11, 2013 8:32am
SMA

Here is a SMA, Simple Market Analysis. We fully understand the friggin' US MMs can ram the price almost instantly 100+ pips if they really want to. There is no doubt they are not interested in taking such as EU and GU higher, but they are procrastinating taking them lower. Why? To load up shorts, that's why. That is a pretty strong indication these pairs are going lower, eventually. And the same goes for the YEN pairs that are being handled by the MMs likewise.
  • #53,326
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:38am Jul 11, 2013 8:38am
Quoting jasakreatif
{quote} both of them quite valid , and about thousand pips = $100 , am i wrong ? , it is about analize before using a system , counting balance , timing holding trade . you should accept that , your system need big balance and smaller or smallest lot , that how i learn around FF , i posted everywhere , and i posted what in my mind. anyway its not same single giant and ten sticks, i've posted my study , and tested at here {quote} anyway go on man... this year your trade better than last year, let it constant.
Of course my results are better this year than last! I stopped buying my dynamite from China!
  • #53,327
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:42am Jul 11, 2013 8:42am
Quoting traderathome
SMA Here is a SMA, Simple Market Analysis. We fully understand the friggin' US MMs can ram the price almost instantly 100+ pips if they really want to. There is no doubt they are not interested in taking such as EU and GU higher, but they are procrastinating taking them lower. Why? To load up shorts, that's why. That is a pretty strong indication these pairs are going lower, eventually. And the same goes for the YEN pairs that are being handled by the MMs likewise.
Hi TAH,

How do you tell they are not interested in taking EU and GU higher? Rejection about the whole number? Why do they want to take the price lower to load shorts? I always thought they would want to pump higher to load shorts? Correct me if I am wrong.
  • #53,328
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:47am Jul 11, 2013 8:47am
Quoting traderathome
GU Short Trade: Entered shorts #1 thru #3, Classic and then Scouts. M1 PVSRA shows MMs pushed price back up thru 3/4 SR on increased activity, indicating they are bears pushing prices higher to add shorts. Added Scout when they pushed price to upper whole number SR. Added the second Scout when the MMs mounted a second push up thru the whole SR. No SL, TP set. {image}
GU Short Trade: Added short #4, Scout. M1 PVSRA shows MMs are lingering the price in their current building range between the 3/4 SR and the upper whole SR, and while they build the price action favors the highs and coming off the highs, indicating they are bears seeking higher prices to add shorts. Planting seeds. Adjusted TP.
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  • #53,329
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:49am Jul 11, 2013 8:49am
Quoting Cheng
{quote} Hi TAH, How do you tell they are not interested in taking EU and GU higher? Rejection about the whole number? Why do they want to take the price lower to load shorts? I always thought they would want to pump higher to load shorts? Correct me if I am wrong.
We will see EU and GU higher, I have no doubt. Maybe I'm wrong but I will wait in EU until price go back to 1.3075-1.31 to start shorting (assuming they can even push the price to 1.33). They already pumped the price once, but rarely they do it just one time. I learnt to avoid the first pump or dump and just use it as information.

If I miss the drop... well, bad luck. But it would be weird to pump the price to 1.32 and then go straight to 1.28 again. Right now, price is not attractive enough for me to short it.

Best, Tymedu.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #53,330
  • Jul 11, 2013 8:57am Jul 11, 2013 8:57am
Quoting traderathome
Good morning, Sonicers! Fully rested after the three hours the jailer allows here. Aha! AJ is capitulating, finally. Here we go!
How do you do it? I mean, manage to operate with so little sleep... and so effectively.

All that gym must have paid off
  • #53,331
  • Jul 11, 2013 9:00am Jul 11, 2013 9:00am
Quoting Cheng
{quote} Hi TAH, How do you tell they are not interested in taking EU and GU higher? Rejection about the whole number? Why do they want to take the price lower to load shorts? I always thought they would want to pump higher to load shorts? Correct me if I am wrong.
PVSRA

Yes, the MMs prefer to add shorts above whole and half SRs, but there are times when the liquidity dries up due to so many short pending orders a bit higher that it would take a lot of "buying" to work through in order to take the price higher. And at "higher", there might not be any liquidity enough to make it all worth while. This is the subjective part of PVSRA.

So to try for an objective part of PVSRA, also just examine the PA in the range and see if,.....whether price is generally higher or lower than 'before'....., if the notable volume favors the highs and coming off the highs, or favors the lows and coming off the lows. And if even that does not work, back off because no clear PVSRA indication is available.
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  • #53,332
  • Jul 11, 2013 9:06am Jul 11, 2013 9:06am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Not at all a problem. You see, to catch fish that way we use PVSRA, .....Place Very Surely Really Away from the boat! Simple and effective!
tah, I really like that you are interactive with your thread participants, and you have demonstrated PVSRA on the right side of the dragon! Aweeeeesome!

So, I am ready to give averaging down a try. Why? Well that brings a little story. In the corporate world, I was always the negotiator, the arbiter. I pride myself on flexibility. I have been clearly inflexible to going against the dragon. And you accepted that and posted several winning trades with the dragon. That make you a better arbiter than I. That is not acceptable, lol. So I am trying a lil experiment, maybe I can learn something. I have set aside 20 dollars( yes, 20) to give this averaging in thing a go. Just as charts are fractal, accounts are as well. So I will monitoring this on a percentage basis. Based on your original metric of dimes per 1000 dollars, my leverage is a very high, so if I blow up the account up, then that will validate your theory of 1 dollar per pip with regards to leverage. Assuming leverage as 50:1, the max in the US.

To non US posters, my broker allows trading down to 1/100 of a penny. So I can trade sub pennies. I will not be doing that, I will be trading pennies. Anyhow, what I need to know tah, is how you determine what your take profit is for the trades where you average down. What is your reference? As a coder, I know you probably have an algorithm for this. What is your algorithm for determining TP?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #53,333
  • Jul 11, 2013 9:11am Jul 11, 2013 9:11am
from my analysis d mms in UJ is is bear
we DONT know where price will go the next second so trust your indicator
  • #53,334
  • Jul 11, 2013 9:12am Jul 11, 2013 9:12am
Quoting cheataddict
from my analysis d mms in UJ is is bear

We need a chart, my friend.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #53,335
  • Jul 11, 2013 9:18am Jul 11, 2013 9:18am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} tah, I really like that you are interactive with your thread participants, and you have demonstrated PVSRA on the right side of the dragon! Aweeeeesome! So, I am ready to give averaging down a try. Why? Well that brings a little story. In the corporate world, I was always the negotiator, the arbiter. I pride myself on flexibility. I have been clearly inflexible to going against the dragon. And you accepted that and posted several winning trades with the dragon. That make you a better arbiter than I. That is not acceptable, lol. So I am trying...
Setting TPs

Yes, I utilize a very complex intricate algorithm for setting the TP.......

.....I like to see nice round numbers of pips gained at the TP, and I like to see if the MMs can reach the Week Range Marks. So, utilizing complex parabolic math equations with proprietary pathological factors for the psychotic MMs, I arrive at my TP in an area near side the Week Range Mark that has nice round pips profit numbers. And, of course, usually it is adjusted via this complex algorithm with each addition to the trade.
  • #53,336
  • Edited 9:56am Jul 11, 2013 9:35am | Edited 9:56am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GU Short Trade: Added short #4, Scout. M1 PVSRA shows MMs are lingering the price in their current building range between the 3/4 SR and the upper whole SR, and while they build the price action favors the highs and coming off the highs, indicating they are bears seeking higher prices to add shorts. Planting seeds. Adjusted TP. {image} {image}
GU Short Trade: Added shorts #5 and #6, Scouts. M1 PVSRA shows MMs pushing price higher, up thru whole SR and then thru the 1/4 SR above. While there is no notable volume to speak of, this is all happening in the context of the MMs previously being indicated as bears. Note the highs (so far) align with previous highs. The MMs are attempting to stop out short that have already joined the party......their way of "stealing", which they use all the time. Now, as I write this, the notable volume appears. Adjusted TP. Planting more seeds.


Edit: Added short #7, Scout. Added pic. Adjusted TP.
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  • #53,337
  • Edited 9:55am Jul 11, 2013 9:40am | Edited 9:55am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Short Trade: Entered shorts #2 and #3, Scouts. Short #3 was a placed pending order filled while I slept. I just entered #3 as the MMs pushed price back up a bit to add more shorts themselves, which is PVSRA confirmed on M1 via higher volumes on the push up and following. Adjusted TP. Edit: Added short #4, Classic. Updated pic. Adjusted TP. Planting seeds. {image} {image}
EU Short Trade: Added short #5. Scout. M1 PVSRA shows MMs push price up thru half SR on increased activity, indicating they are bears pushing price higher to add shorts. Adjusted TP. Planting seeds.
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  • #53,338
  • Jul 11, 2013 9:40am Jul 11, 2013 9:40am
The most profitable day for me since i start using PVSRA
I closed all EU , GU & UC trades this morning for total profit of 3307 pips & grow 29% of my account .
Still have AJ running from last week & start building GU & EU short positions now
  • #53,339
  • Jul 11, 2013 9:45am Jul 11, 2013 9:45am
EU Comment

Be careful. Lousy PA waves. Shitty angle on Dragon. And is there really room for this to fall with all the action (position building) taking place above the RWH mark?
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  • #53,340
  • Jul 11, 2013 9:55am Jul 11, 2013 9:55am
Quoting aussie2010
The most profitable day for me since i start using PVSRA I closed all EU , GU & UC trades this morning for total profit of 3307 pips & grow 29% of my account . Still have AJ running from last week & start building GU & EU short positions now
now make me posted again , sorry i really want to say this 29% 3307 pips is funny .
10% 1 day trade is easy maaaaannn... really easy...... mostly signal in the world trading 1 month standard is 100%,
every trader should have 10% in 1 day or waste a time , and getting older and older watching chart every day

ignore it , 9 pm here , nite.
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