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  • #52,981
  • Jul 8, 2013 9:30am Jul 8, 2013 9:30am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} I am totally against, and always have been, and have repeatedly stated so over the years, that no one here should divulge the size of their trades or their account. It is best that all traders focus on the trade, the pips P/L from EP to TP/SL. No one should feel out of place, either because they have a small or a large account. I started a demo on Jan 11, 2013 for $1,000 and traded only micro-lots, mirroring some PVSRA trades (actually starting pre-PVSRA) as part of the experiment with what has become known as PVSRA. In seven months the...

Establishing a metric has nothing to do with your real account tah. We could set a fictional account of say 1000 dollars and use dime lots. Then post our real trades. Then we have something to measure. Why would you be against that? Your actual lot sizes have nothing to do with establishing a metric.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,982
  • Jul 8, 2013 9:31am Jul 8, 2013 9:31am
Quoting traderathome
EJ: My opinion, it is going down, a journey down from a good starting place, a whole number SR area. Looking at other YEN pairs, the MMs have kept prices up today, milking the cow first (translation: maintaining high prices while they add shorts). In 2.5 days there will be multiple JPY high impact releases...... {image} {image}
PVSRA, EJ: Bulls or Bears?

Push and short above whole number! It doesn't get any clearer.
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  • #52,983
  • Jul 8, 2013 9:33am Jul 8, 2013 9:33am
Quoting marvas
Appropriate long trade? 1) L - H - HL 2)Up dragon 3) PA above trendline {image}
Yes but you need wait the price crosses last High (130.18) to take the trade
French Sonicer
  • #52,984
  • Jul 8, 2013 9:36am Jul 8, 2013 9:36am
USD/CHF We can see how the price is pushed up above a half number, with high volumen activity in that area. In M1, there is high volumen in tops
with selloff falling prices, and then pushing the prices up again. I think thats the MMs are Bears, and they are adding shorts orders in tops while they
are hunting bulls for more liquidity. I´m right?

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  • #52,985
  • Jul 8, 2013 9:41am Jul 8, 2013 9:41am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Establishing a metric has nothing to do with your real account tah. We could set a fictional account of say 1000 dollars and use dime lots. Then post our real trades. Then we have something to measure. Why would you be against that? Your actual lot sizes have nothing to do with establishing a metric.
For the final time,.....

For the final time, $1,000 with only $0.10/pips size trades is the place to start. How many trades will the trader run on that account simultaneously? Very few to begin with. Frankly, I am talked out on this subject. Every trader must get feel for the market swings and shenannegans all by themselves. They won't get this by reading, only by doing. My warning has been clear and repeated. Trade very light relative to account size. I think $0.10/pips for a $1,000 starting acccount is reasonable. Beyond that, how a trader loads up on trade components, well that is up to them.

If you want to explore this further and come up with additional guidelines instead of letting traders experience the market for themselves, do it. I am not because I think that is where "theory" and "reality" separate, and each trader should be making their own decisions. I won't participate in leading anyone down a path that is wrong for them. Experiential knowlege must take over here, not book learning.

-tah
  • #52,986
  • Jul 8, 2013 9:42am Jul 8, 2013 9:42am
Closed EP 2 on AU long for a .9% gain will leave EP 1 to run.
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  • #52,987
  • Jul 8, 2013 9:47am Jul 8, 2013 9:47am
AU long

Interesting area on H4 and on the daily chart.

Regards,

H.
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #52,988
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:04am Jul 8, 2013 10:04am
Quoting futurespeter
AUDUSD Classic SonicR long entry, SL not yet set. {image}

TP 1 - 9134- tp 2 9159 tp 3 - 9177
  • #52,989
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:06am Jul 8, 2013 10:06am
eur usd tp 12889 tp 2 12917
  • #52,990
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:08am Jul 8, 2013 10:08am
Quoting Dano12
{quote} TP 1 - 9134- tp 2 9159 tp 3 - 9177
Quoting Dano12
eur usd tp 12889 tp 2 12917
These are just numbers, meaningless! Folks here don't have time for this shit! We deserve to SEE the trade. Post for the benefit others, not yourself.

........NO PIC., NO POST! DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
  • #52,991
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:13am Jul 8, 2013 10:13am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} These are just numbers, meaningless! Folks here don't have time for this shit! We deserve to SEE the trade. Post for the benefit others, not yourself. ........NO PIC., NO POST! DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

I understand, do not hit me
  • #52,992
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:15am Jul 8, 2013 10:15am
Quoting Dano12
{quote} I understand, do not hit me
Go back and revise your posts to include the charts required, properly annotated so viewers can easily see these trades, start to finish. We are encouraging others by providing examples of the application of the Sonic R. System. We are not posting for any other reasons. "Sharing is caring." - Sonicdeejay
  • #52,993
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:22am Jul 8, 2013 10:22am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Go back and revise your posts to include the charts required, properly annotated so viewers can easily see these trades, start to finish. We are encouraging others by providing examples of the application of the Sonic R. System. We are not posting for any other reasons. "Sharing is caring." - Sonicdeejay
I have other colors of the candles (because it's better for me) has been rebuked by not paste pic with these candles, I heard that the introduction of confusion and does not show the pic

sorry
  • #52,994
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:33am Jul 8, 2013 10:33am
Market Comment

With JPY high impact releases in about 2.5 days, and with the MMs pushing up prices and more heavily trading at highs, it will be interesting to see if the US MMs start drifiting prices of YEN pairs up for continued good shorting in the off hours after the LS closes.
  • #52,995
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:35am Jul 8, 2013 10:35am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} For the final time,..... For the final time, $1,000 with only $0.10/pips size trades is the place to start. How many trades will the trader run on that account simultaneously? Very few to begin with. Frankly, I am talked out on this subject. Every trader must get feel for the market swings and shenannegans all by themselves. They won't get this by reading, only by doing. My warning has been clear and repeated. Trade very light relative to account size. I think $0.10/pips for a $1,000 starting acccount is reasonable. Beyond that, how a trader...

Gotcha...so, here is the metric. 1000 dollar account. I will trade only the Yen classic, so only Yen VSA trades will be considered. That is measurable, tidy and concise. Dime lots will be traded, which is even better, because my losses are easy to compile, so I if lose 50 pips, I lost 5 dollars. Excellent start, thank you tah!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,996
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:37am Jul 8, 2013 10:37am
Quoting Dano12
{quote} I have other colors of the candles (because it's better for me) has been rebuked by not paste pic with these candles, I heard that the introduction of confusion and does not show the pic sorry
If your charts confuse, and since numbers alone are totally worthless (no pic, no post - a picture is worth a thousand words), if you will not take the time to put your trades on a SonicR template and post them, then I suggest you don't post your trades at all. If it doesn't help other Soncers to see the application of the Sonic R. System in an easily comprehended way, then the post should not be made at all. No body here has time for messy posts, or posts with incomplete information, or posts that generally do not lend themselves to quick comprhension.

There are others here that fully understand this, but that could care less and post their own crap. They do not embody the true Sonicer Spirit and are posting more for themselves than for others.

Most here are trying to improve the qualilty of this textbook as time goes forward. We can do nothing about the past, but we can all get on the same page and move forward in a way that benefits all and that makes this textbook the best Forex Factory has to offer.

-tah
  • #52,997
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:50am Jul 8, 2013 10:50am
Quoting futurespeter
EURUSD Classic SonicR long entry, TP and SL not yet set. {image}

Closed EURUSD long trade (entry at 1.2832x) at 1.2869x for 36 pips gain.

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  • #52,998
  • Jul 8, 2013 10:54am Jul 8, 2013 10:54am
Quoting futurespeter
AUDUSD Classic SonicR long entry, SL not yet set. {image}
Closed AUDUSD long trade at 0.9124x (adjusted TP) for 62 pips gain.

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  • #52,999
  • Jul 8, 2013 11:04am Jul 8, 2013 11:04am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} Closed AUDUSD long trade at 0.9124x (adjusted TP) for 62 pips gain. {image} {image}
Great job! That's the way! Now, going forward, try to use VSA to add to your position, experience what positive compounding of positions can do for you!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #53,000
  • Jul 8, 2013 11:10am Jul 8, 2013 11:10am
Nice classic trade futurespeter!
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
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