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  • #52,881
  • Jul 7, 2013 8:07am Jul 7, 2013 8:07am
I must say i'm really looking forwards to next weeks trading. I genuinely have all the faith in the sonic r classic system and the PVRSA! Certain people have got emotional with joes input which might be different than tahs at times but its all for the benefit of the forums as a whole. TAH seems to appreciate joes input therefore it would be idiotic for us to question it further.

Let the money making begin...
  • #52,882
  • Jul 7, 2013 8:15am Jul 7, 2013 8:15am
TAH as I said some days ago , Your system is good but I think not for me cuz I have small money for start. I Can't get dropdown for 100-200 pips or more because this is all my Acc. As U said for example bulls can drop price lower to add more longs (EUR/USD atm) so now U are on minus. You have "huge" account imo so You can handle this.
  • #52,883
  • Jul 7, 2013 8:25am Jul 7, 2013 8:25am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} It's kinda funny that after all your criticism, after we encourage you to post your trades, the first thing you say is: "Be ready all the Sonicers, we will go BOTH long and short" It made my weekend, thank you so much. I think I will use that sentence in my signature, Have a nice Sunday guys!
Ah, that just the rub, Ty, we will not ever be going against the trend. You see, my friend, trends overlap, so we need on occasion, to be both long and short as we phase out of one trend and into another.

Trend trading only!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,884
  • Jul 7, 2013 8:28am Jul 7, 2013 8:28am
Quoting marvas
I must say i'm really looking forwards to next weeks trading. I genuinely have all the faith in the sonic r classic system and the PVRSA! Certain people have got emotional with joes input which might be different than tahs at times but its all for the benefit of the forums as a whole. TAH seems to appreciate joes input therefore it would be idiotic for us to question it further. Let the money making begin...
tah is a professional, and professionals often disagree. Point and counterpoint. Truth is, running both classic and PVSRA will make sonciers unstoppable! We have them going and coming!

And we need to do is keep the templates as tah designed them clean. That seems to be troublesome and I now understand fully why get tah gets irritated about it.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,885
  • Jul 7, 2013 8:32am Jul 7, 2013 8:32am
joe,

if you don't mind me asking what's your trading background?
  • #52,886
  • Jul 7, 2013 8:39am Jul 7, 2013 8:39am
Quoting konick
TAH as I said some days ago , Your system is good but I think not for me cuz I have small money for start. I Can't get dropdown for 100-200 pips or more because this is all my Acc. As U said for example bulls can drop price lower to add more longs (EUR/USD atm) so now U are on minus. You have "huge" account imo so You can handle this.
Stick around konick, the Sonic team will show you micro and nano holders how to make money with sonicR classic trades. Also, keep a look at numbers tah is putting up. If you mirrored his trades, you would up right now.

Just something to think about.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,887
  • Jul 7, 2013 8:46am Jul 7, 2013 8:46am
Quoting marvas
joe, if you don't mind me asking what's your trading background?
Trading stocks, options, futures since 1999. Studied to become CMT( Chartered Market Technician) but then realized that you only need that to trade OPM, so I never took the tests. There are some HUGE perks to being an amateur trader. Trading FX since 2006. Trade full time. I have blown five accounts outright, have had more than 50% draw down in other accounts. I consider myself a market historian, technician, and finally, trader.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,888
  • Jul 7, 2013 8:50am Jul 7, 2013 8:50am
Quoting FXDrJ
Going both long and short. This brings to mind a great Australian joke that goes like this: Two old Australian cow cocky's (slang for slow talking aussie farmers) were selling watermelons off the back of a truck. They were buying them for a dollar and selling them for a dollar. One farmer turned to the second and said "we're not making much money" the other replied "yeah what do you think we should do" The first farmer then said "WE NEED TO BUY A BIGGER TRUCK" This is not meant to offend you jmn5611, just some light hearted humour to enjoy...

No offense taken. One day, you will meet a phenomena that is called a black swan. I am simply here to give an alternative to that fateful day that will surely come if you trade long enuf.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,889
  • Jul 7, 2013 9:11am Jul 7, 2013 9:11am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Trading stocks, options, futures since 1999. Studied to become CMT( Chartered Market Technician) but then realized that you only need that to trade OPM, so I never took the tests. There are some HUGE perks to being an amateur trader. Trading FX since 2006. Trade full time. I have blown five accounts outright, have had more than 50% draw down in other accounts. I consider myself a market historian, technician, and finally, trader.
What a wealth of experience! How do you stand now though?
  • #52,890
  • Jul 7, 2013 9:17am Jul 7, 2013 9:17am
Quoting mouldy
{quote} What a wealth of experience! How do you stand now though?

In between comfortable and rich. It is a terrible place. Having more than your peers, but not enuf to get into the places you really want to go, to meet the people you really want to meet. Awful. Awwwwful!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,891
  • Edited 9:29am Jul 7, 2013 9:19am | Edited 9:29am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} No offense taken. One day, you will meet a phenomena that is called a black swan. I am simply here to give an alternative to that fateful day that will surely come if you trade long enuf.
Black Swan

Example, GJ,.....a Black Swan month, more than five thousand pips drop! If a trader was long when it happened and started averaging down, and concentrating later on more averaging at the lows, it still would have taken four years most likely to get back to break even. That is a very long time to tie up trading capital. However, the other problems cannot be ignored. Would the averaging down trader be trading light enough to be able to continue averaging down, and then concentrating more averaging down at the bottom? Not likely.

A Black Swan event can happen.

So, what is the solution if you are an "averaging down" trader? Probably none. The only saving grace is that if it happens to a trader later, rather than earlier, then the trader might be able to take the loss, offset by prior gains, and still be ahead. Though it would setback the overall profits picture for the time trading.

The big loss event at Lehman Brothers, and earlier with a French bank, each caused by one of their traders averaging down, got a lot of publicity at the time. Now, it is all but forgotten. The firms just carried on. The loss put a dent in their profits for the year, that's all. Still, for the individual retail trader, it is not a welcomed event.

The Black Swan phenomenon is sometimes much talked about whenever the big boys in the markets sense things of a serious nature are getting close to being impending, things they themselves cannot control. They don't like that. They like to be in control of market prices. They don't like to lose money. The possibility of a Black Swan event disturbs them because they are so greedy that even the thought of something beyond their control interrupting their profit making market manipulations really pisses them off.
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  • #52,892
  • Jul 7, 2013 10:31am Jul 7, 2013 10:31am
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA Results for 1st Fourteen Weeks The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see. Week ending 04/05 1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/12 1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/19 2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips...
traderathome, this is astounding, to say the least... In six years at these boards I have never seen such performance... will set about studying your trades... Pippo
Vincit qui se vincit.
  • #52,893
  • Jul 7, 2013 10:49am Jul 7, 2013 10:49am
Quoting Pippopotamus
{quote} traderathome, this is astounding, to say the least... In six years at these boards I have never seen such performance... will set about studying your trades... Pippo
100% Agree.... Dude is Volume King!!
Creditors have better memories than debtors.
  • #52,894
  • Jul 7, 2013 10:52am Jul 7, 2013 10:52am
Nice Quasimodo at the top for a gazillion pips

Regards,

H.
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  • #52,895
  • Jul 7, 2013 11:38am Jul 7, 2013 11:38am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} tah is a professional, and professionals often disagree. Point and counterpoint. Truth is, running both classic and PVSRA will make sonciers unstoppable! We have them going and coming! And we need to do is keep the templates as tah designed them clean. That seems to be troublesome and I now understand fully why get tah gets irritated about it.
I think this is a step we must do to go deeper in PVSRA analysis, but I hope that with the time we will trade more with the trend and we will find a way to reduce the drawdown. At least that is what I will fight for. I like PVSRA, I love it, but we still have the drawdown problem and we didn't face yet a HUGE move against PVSRA, but sooner or later we will.

It's obvious this is an on going project and most of the people here just want to help. And it's also obvious that there is a lot of room to improve. Personally I'm working on a simple idea to decide if I will look for longs or shorts in a pair, and from that "criteria" to find the best spot using PVSRA to enter the market. The PVSRA potential is just awesome, now we just have to keep working on it.

Best, Tymedu.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #52,896
  • Jul 7, 2013 2:58pm Jul 7, 2013 2:58pm
SHARING IS CARING

SPANISH: De acuerdo con el espíritu de este hilo, he decidido publicar 5 vídeos explicando el sistema SONICR y PVSRA para los miembros hispanohablantes. Espero que les ayude a comprender mejor que es lo que se habla por aquí.

ENGLISH: According to this spirit, I have made 5 videos IN SPANISH explaining the SONICR SYSTEM and the PVSRA ANALISIS method.
I hope that all the SPANISH members can understand the basis of this system.

These are the links:

VIDEO 1

VIDEO 2

VIDEO 3

VIDEO 4

VIDEO 5

banteka
My mother language is Spanish, so, please, be patient with me.
  • #52,897
  • Edited 3:34pm Jul 7, 2013 3:08pm | Edited 3:34pm
Quoting banteka
SHARING IS CARING...
Gracias!!!

I hope to contribute to the community soon. Tickets, analysis, discussion, but for now I have a lot to learn,
Be careful with my opinions, I'm just a newbie
  • #52,898
  • Jul 7, 2013 3:21pm Jul 7, 2013 3:21pm
Hey banteka, good job, congratulations. Your videos can be a important base for all spanish speaker of this thread (like me, my english is horrible).
Dos semanas atrás y me hubieras ahorrado muchos dolores de cabeza xDDD

Congrats again dude, and thank u
  • #52,899
  • Jul 7, 2013 3:23pm Jul 7, 2013 3:23pm
Quoting banteka
SHARING IS CARING SPANISH: De acuerdo con el espíritu de este hilo, he decidido publicar 5 vídeos explicando el sistema SONICR y PVSRA para los miembros hispanohablantes. Espero que les ayude a comprender mejor que es lo que se habla por aquí. ENGLISH: According to this spirit, I have made 5 videos IN SPANISH explaining the SONICR SYSTEM and the PVSRA ANALISIS method. I hope that all the SPANISH members can understand the basis of this system. These are the links: VIDEO 1 [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBlB8RaNI4k]VIDEO...
Eres un crack! Mil gracias por el esfuerzo y tiempo! Voy a degustarlos ahora mismo! Un abrazo!

You are amazing! Thanks for the effort and time! Im going to take a look now! Thanks!
  • #52,900
  • Jul 7, 2013 3:30pm Jul 7, 2013 3:30pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Black Swan Example, GJ,.....a Black Swan month, more than five thousand pips drop! If a trader was long when it happened and their control interrupting their profit making market manipulations really pisses them off. {image}
Tah true but look at all the dimensions in that position we were.
I'm doing this I do not understand where open positions and figure out where on the contrary open positions

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