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  • #52,861
  • Jul 6, 2013 2:20pm Jul 6, 2013 2:20pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I am not offended, I am a man. Men in my neck of the woods do not get their feelings hurt. Sonicers, we WILL be going both long AND short. If you live in the United States, get yourself a second demo account from another broker. See you on Sunday during the Asian session. No, we will not be trading then, the spreads are usually too wide and there is no need to hand brokers any more money than they get.
I just don't understand why you feel you have to talk down to everyone.

I'm sure you are an intelligent fellow, but it's difficult to respect your
teaching when you treat everyone the way you do.

I'm looking forward to your coming posts on the Classic Sonic R. I just
hope you can find a better approach with the comments you make.

As Ringo would say "Peace 'n Love"
  • #52,862
  • Jul 6, 2013 2:28pm Jul 6, 2013 2:28pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I am not offended, I am a man. Men in my neck of the woods do not get their feelings hurt. Sonicers, we WILL be going both long AND short. If you live in the United States, get yourself a second demo account from another broker. See you on Sunday during the Asian session. No, we will not be trading then, the spreads are usually too wide and there is no need to hand brokers any more money than they get.
Aha!

"Sonicers, we WILL be going both long AND short. If you live in the United States, get yourself a second demo account from another broker."

.......and now the fun really starts!

(Somehow, I knew it would eventually come to this. Screw the market makers and their NFA!)
  • #52,863
  • Jul 6, 2013 2:32pm Jul 6, 2013 2:32pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Aha! "Sonicers, we WILL be going both long AND short. If you live in the United States, get yourself a second demo account from another broker." .......and now the fun really starts! (Somehow, I knew it would eventually come to this. Screw the NFA!)
The NFA states that you cannot go both long and short from the same account, this is BS, of course, and designed to make any trader that does figure out what is going on suffer with toggling accounts and the like.

Another caveat is that you must find a broker with nano lots. Read up also on FIFO if you live in the United States.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,864
  • Jul 6, 2013 2:45pm Jul 6, 2013 2:45pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} There is a third line on your chart. Please use only the template that tah and sonic are using, this for the sake of clarity.
jmn,

The only thing I have drawn manually is the rectangle to point out the level I am referring to. The rest is Sonic white template loaded, nothing added. I do not understand what this "a third line" is.

Maybe you are willing to respond to my analysis as well. Thank you.
Posting Demo charts, mirroring some of them live.
  • #52,865
  • Jul 6, 2013 2:49pm Jul 6, 2013 2:49pm
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} I just don't understand why you feel you have to talk down to everyone. I'm sure you are an intelligent fellow, but it's difficult to respect your teaching when you treat everyone the way you do. I'm looking forward to your coming posts on the Classic Sonic R. I just hope you can find a better approach with the comments you make. As Ringo would say "Peace 'n Love"
I don't think I have offended tah, and that is who I am talking to 95% of the time. Are you offended because I am challenging your guru?

He seems to be all for it, and is not offended in the least. Maybe it is a regional thing.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,866
  • Jul 6, 2013 2:51pm Jul 6, 2013 2:51pm
Quoting forexpiet
{quote} jmn, The only thing I have drawn manually is the rectangle to point out the level I am referring to. The rest is Sonic white template loaded, nothing added. I do not understand what this "a third line" is. Maybe you are willing to respond to my analysis as well. Thank you.

tah's templates only have the dragon and the 89 on them. Your analysis is correct, however, my timeframe was wrong. I should not be using the H1, I should be using the M15.

That was my mistake. If we were using the correct chart, we would already be long.

Best
Joe
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,867
  • Jul 6, 2013 2:51pm Jul 6, 2013 2:51pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I don't think I have offended tah, and that is who I am talking to 95% of the time. Are you offended because I am challenging your guru? He seems to be all for it, and is not offended in the least. Maybe it is a regional thing.
  • #52,868
  • Jul 6, 2013 3:36pm Jul 6, 2013 3:36pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} tah's templates only have the dragon and the 89 on them. Your analysis is correct, however, my timeframe was wrong. I should not be using the H1, I should be using the M15. That was my mistake. If we were using the correct chart, we would already be long. Best Joe
Well, now I see. I will load the template again. Looking forward to your analysis next week. I will be going on a holiday to Croatia but will follow this thread. Besides the "yelling at each other" I think the thread is pickup up on quality again.
Posting Demo charts, mirroring some of them live.
  • #52,869
  • Jul 6, 2013 6:12pm Jul 6, 2013 6:12pm
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA Results for 1st Fourteen Weeks The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see. Week ending 04/05 1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/12 1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/19 2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips...
nice.. drawdown.. everyweek sir
  • #52,870
  • Jul 6, 2013 6:21pm Jul 6, 2013 6:21pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} The NFA states that you cannot go both long and short from the same account, this is BS, of course, and designed to make any trader that does figure out what is going on suffer with toggling accounts and the like. Another caveat is that you must find a broker with nano lots. Read up also on FIFO if you live in the United States.
i can do it , with different hedge techniqe , i know how to do hedge with restricted broker , long time a go as a newbie when i used alpari i let my trade waiting and waiting drawdown more than 50% balance .
  • #52,871
  • Jul 6, 2013 7:37pm Jul 6, 2013 7:37pm
Quoting drewIOW
{quote} Weekly Doji is what they should be looking for !!!!!!
you mean this ?

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  • #52,872
  • Jul 6, 2013 8:47pm Jul 6, 2013 8:47pm
Going both long and short.

This brings to mind a great Australian joke that goes like this:

Two old Australian cow cocky's (slang for slow talking aussie farmers) were selling watermelons off the back of a truck.
They were buying them for a dollar and selling them for a dollar.
One farmer turned to the second and said "we're not making much money"
the other replied "yeah what do you think we should do"
The first farmer then said "WE NEED TO BUY A BIGGER TRUCK"

This is not meant to offend you jmn5611, just some light hearted humour to enjoy over the weekend.
I look forward to your input and maybe it could bring some improvements to the way we trade.

I must say say that I remain a very loyal student of Tah's sharing here due to my success to date.

My apologies go to Tymedu, Msis125125, worldfreedom, and others for not mentioning you guys in my first post. Your sharing here is also helping with my ongoing
learning of PVSRA. And to ArtfulDoger for your words of wisdom.

Thanks to all who are helping to improve this way of trading.

DrJ
  • #52,873
  • Jul 6, 2013 9:42pm Jul 6, 2013 9:42pm
Quoting jasakreatif
{quote} i can do it , with different hedge techniqe , i know how to do hedge with restricted broker , long time a go as a newbie when i used alpari i let my trade waiting and waiting drawdown more than 50% balance .
I think there are only certain brokers US citizens can use.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,874
  • Jul 6, 2013 11:10pm Jul 6, 2013 11:10pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I think there are only certain brokers US citizens can use.
ATC Brokers allow Hedging and do not require FIFO. They are US based and accept US accounts.

I've used them for about a year now and am very happy.
  • #52,875
  • Jul 7, 2013 2:21am Jul 7, 2013 2:21am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I am not offended, I am a man. Men in my neck of the woods do not get their feelings hurt. Sonicers, we WILL be going both long AND short. If you live in the United States, get yourself a second demo account from another broker. See you on Sunday during the Asian session. No, we will not be trading then, the spreads are usually too wide and there is no need to hand brokers any more money than they get.
It's kinda funny that after all your criticism, after we encourage you to post your trades, the first thing you say is:

"Be ready all the Sonicers, we will go BOTH long and short"


It made my weekend, thank you so much. I think I will use that sentence in my signature,

Have a nice Sunday guys!
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #52,876
  • Jul 7, 2013 3:13am Jul 7, 2013 3:13am
Chartgame - Train & test yourself

http://chartgame.com/

Enjoy!
Mind the gap
  • #52,877
  • Jul 7, 2013 3:38am Jul 7, 2013 3:38am
Quoting Sunbrella
Chartgame - Train & test yourself http://chartgame.com/ Enjoy!
nice game

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  • #52,878
  • Jul 7, 2013 4:30am Jul 7, 2013 4:30am
Nice Sunday fun and for a classic sonic short.

Thanks Sunbrella.

H.
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #52,879
  • Jul 7, 2013 4:49am Jul 7, 2013 4:49am
Quoting hansma
Nice Sunday fun and for a classic sonic short. Thanks Sunbrella. H. {image}
You are welcome, Hans, it's fun, indeed. Worth playing a series of trades / instruments to get a more realistic result (e.g. 66 trades)
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Mind the gap
  • #52,880
  • Jul 7, 2013 7:25am Jul 7, 2013 7:25am
Quoting Sunbrella
{quote} You are welcome, Hans, it's fun, indeed. Worth playing a series of trades / instruments to get a more realistic result (e.g. 66 trades) {image}
Hope u guys are having great Sunday ...




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