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  • #52,781
  • Jul 5, 2013 11:26am Jul 5, 2013 11:26am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} We Have Rules, and More Profits! Sure we have rules. Two trade styles: Classic and Scout. And we have an additional method of analysis, PVSRA. Master Sonicdeejay introduced both trade styles. I introduced PVSRA to help both be more effective. Nothing is changed. Well, that is not actually true. Something has changed. Instead of seeing post after post by most that struggled to make 10-40 pips, but many times having their SL hit, now we have post after post of new Sonicers proclaiming they are now making profits in the market, some even after...

Ahh, see, I have to call you to task for this. Sure, they are making money. The market ranges 70% of the time. But what happens when the Yen runs 2 or 3000 pips against this, and they have been averaging down all the way? You have done this tah. How do you escape?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,782
  • Jul 5, 2013 11:29am Jul 5, 2013 11:29am
Quoting jasakreatif
{quote} ah.. nice , so post your classic i want to see your view , i'm dizzy everyday seeing opposite setup
Fair enuf, pick your pair, and I will run a template just for you. SonicR is far superior to PVRSA, and I am willing to prove that.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,783
  • Edited 11:43am Jul 5, 2013 11:31am | Edited 11:43am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Indeed, that is a choice. I do not care what happens to newbies. They will learn. I ask questions to people at my pay grade. I ask questions of tah because he has earned the right to do battle against. He has put work in. This is a bit a of Japanese culture, but he is getting heat because he has earned it. That is backwards to many, but tah, and a few others get this.
Indisputably! And the system works. The account does matter.

There is a thing I has just thought of. Ok, MMs are the bulls. Globally (long-term) they are. Prof. TAH is right.

As we do not know where they could run out of control and transfer it to the bears, we should trust ourselves and set our longs averaging the loss.
But how should we know when the bulls become the bears. I suppose this point is somewhere in a half way to ... where? This point should be the point of stop-loss.

The question is - how to determine the point where the bulls become the bears as early as possible?

EDITED. Knowing this point, we could start building the common position more accurately?

Technically (for me) we passed through the point where the bulls became the bears in the medium-term.
Hunting High and Low
  • #52,784
  • Edited 12:28pm Jul 5, 2013 11:38am | Edited 12:28pm
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} Wow, so you guarantee that DEMAND WILL BE BROKEN, if I open 100 lots short and you will be wrong, would you refund my loss? Read my state about wasting time on shitheads even with demo accounts! P.S your GU spread is 6 - I guess that is a CENTs account! Well played sir!

LoL Have fun with your 100 lots short - must be in profit by now. Told cha.

Regards,

H. ( the wiser shithead )

Now itīs only fair that you refund me
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  • #52,785
  • Jul 5, 2013 11:41am Jul 5, 2013 11:41am
Quoting Dr.Phoenix
{quote} Indisputably! And the system works. The account does matter. There is a thing I has just thought of. Ok, MMs are the bulls. Globally (long-term) they are. Prof. TAH is right. As we do not know where they could run out of control and transfer it to the bears, we should trust ourselves and set our longs averaging the loss. But how should we know when the bulls become the bears. I suppose this point is somewhere in a half way to ... where? This point should be the point of stop-loss. The question is - how to determine the point when the bulls...

This is simple, if price is above the dragon, and the dragon is above the 89, then we are bulls. Period. PVRSA is used when we have a chance to add positions IN THE DIRECTION OF THE TREND.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,786
  • Jul 5, 2013 11:42am Jul 5, 2013 11:42am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Fair enuf, pick your pair, and I will run a template just for you. SonicR is far superior to PVRSA, and I am willing to prove that.
Pick Up the Mantel

jmn,

You could do no better for this thread than to post your SonicR Classic trades. I trust you'd do it textbook fashion, as a true teacher and instructor. That would be a definite "plus" because new and old traders alike appreciate and are encouraged by success. When Master Sonicdeejay was more actively trading, we had that, and it would be nice for someone new to pick up the mantel and carry it. Please.

-tah
  • #52,787
  • Jul 5, 2013 11:45am Jul 5, 2013 11:45am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} This is simple, if price is above the dragon, and the dragon is above the 89, then we are bulls. Period. PVRSA is used when we have a chance to add positions IN THE DIRECTION OF THE TREND.
Monthly I suppose?

EDITED. Using 89MA is a technical assumption of the System. That is all.

Personally I use 200 Daily SMA for this purpose. 200 DMA was already passed through.

DEITED. 89 MA (weekly) was already passed through too.
Hunting High and Low
  • #52,788
  • Jul 5, 2013 11:49am Jul 5, 2013 11:49am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Pick Up the Mantel jmn, You could do no better for this thread than to post your SonicR Classic trades. I trust you'd do it textbook fashion, as a true teacher and instructor. That would be a definite "plus" because new and old traders alike appreciate and are encouraged by success. When Master Sonicdeejay was more actively trading, we had that, and it would be nice for someone new to pick up the mantel and carry it. Please. -tah

Thank you tah, this is the invite I was waiting for. I appreciate it. I would only accept from you, or Sonic. Thank you, and see you next week! Will I have to post on all majors or just my personal pair? I can do either. Believe me, I am anxious to see what is what. It is a no lose situation for all of us.

Best
Joe
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,789
  • Jul 5, 2013 11:52am Jul 5, 2013 11:52am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Ahh, see, I have to call you to task for this. Sure, they are making money. The market ranges 70% of the time. But what happens when the Yen runs 2 or 3000 pips against this, and they have been averaging down all the way? You have done this tah. How do you escape?
I don't "escape". I wait. By waiting, I have never had a "major move" sting me. Never. And I have been through three of them, all three of which makes your "3000" pips look like child's play. Don't get me wrong. I don't relish such occurrences. I am only saying that a "loser" is not a "loser" unless you close it at a loss.

The best thing you can do, is to post your trades, your SonicR Classic trades. Be an instructor. Demonstrate your success. A lot of folks would be well served by having more good examples of Classic traders here. I support that.
  • #52,790
  • Jul 5, 2013 11:54am Jul 5, 2013 11:54am
Quoting Dr.Phoenix
{quote} Monthly I suppose? EDITED. Using 89MA is a technical assumption of the System. That is all. Personally I use 200 Daily SMA for this purpose. 200 DMA was already passed through. DEITED. 89 MA (weekly) was already passed through too.
No, trends are time frame specific. Decide which time frame you are going to choose, AND STICK WITH IT.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,791
  • Jul 5, 2013 11:55am Jul 5, 2013 11:55am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} I don't "escape". I wait. By waiting, I have never had a "major move" sting me. Never. And I have been through three of them, all three of which makes your "3000" pips look like child's play. Don't get me wrong. I don't relish such occurrences. I am only saying that a "loser" is not a "loser" unless you close it at a loss.
Fair enuf.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,792
  • Jul 5, 2013 12:05pm Jul 5, 2013 12:05pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} No, trends are time frame specific. Decide which time frame you are going to choose, AND STICK WITH IT.

We are talking about the different things.
Hunting High and Low
  • #52,793
  • Jul 5, 2013 12:06pm Jul 5, 2013 12:06pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Thank you tah, this is the invite I was waiting for. I appreciate it. I would only accept from you, or Sonic. Thank you, and see you next week! Will I have to post on all majors or just my personal pair? I can do either. Believe me, I am anxious to see what is what. It is a no lose situation for all of us. Best Joe
Well, since your favorite pair might not be that of another Sonicer, but you are also trading other pairs, then yes, post them. The more examples the better. I don't see how it could be otherwise.

You know, PVSRA has a lot of possibilities, which is one reason I labeled it a "work in progress". Where is it's best application? Yes, even new Sonicers are posting about successes beyond all their prior experience. But, is it coming from the best application of PVSRA? I, for one, keep an open mind about this. So, I'd not be surprised to see it applied in a more conservative way, in conjunction with Classics, to yield more than adequate results. I think we are seeing only the tip of the iceberg here. Put another way, maybe we are seeing a diamond with many facets, and eventually we will put that diamond into the best overall setting where the best facet truly sparkles.

You could help direct us down that road. After all, the Sonic R. System is founded on the Classic trade. If there is a way to make that trade better......
  • #52,794
  • Jul 5, 2013 12:22pm Jul 5, 2013 12:22pm
Next week. We are looking to short the EJ ( and all other yen pairs by default).

Why? Dragon is below trend.

As price of above both Dragon and Trend we will be looking at PVRSA to get us in a lil early.

This chart is H1, how about that?

What should we be looking for to get us in? This is a quiz.
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  • #52,795
  • Jul 5, 2013 12:27pm Jul 5, 2013 12:27pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Well, since your favorite pair might not be that of another Sonicer, but you are also trading other pairs, then yes, post them. The more examples the better. I don't see how it could be otherwise. You know, PVSRA has a lot of possibilities, which is one reason I labeled it a "work in progress". Where is it's best application? Yes, even new Sonicers are posting about successes beyond all their prior experience. But, is it coming from the best application of PVSRA? I, for one, keep an open mind about this. So, I'd not be surprised to see...

Jmn... The ball is on your roof.Newbies like me are waiting for your teachings...
My mother language is Spanish, so, please, be patient with me.
  • #52,796
  • Jul 5, 2013 12:37pm Jul 5, 2013 12:37pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Well, since your favorite pair might not be that of another Sonicer, but you are also trading other pairs, then yes, post them. The more examples the better. I don't see how it could be otherwise. You know, PVSRA has a lot of possibilities, which is one reason I labeled it a "work in progress". Where is it's best application? Yes, even new Sonicers are posting about successes beyond all their prior experience. But, is it coming from the best application of PVSRA? I, for one, keep an open mind about this. So, I'd not be surprised to see...
Yep, looks like I found my FF home. Thanks for taking me in Sonicers, I will do my best to present quality work!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,797
  • Jul 5, 2013 12:46pm Jul 5, 2013 12:46pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Yep, looks like I found my FF home. Thanks for taking me in Sonicers, I will do my best to present quality work!
(Great! Now I can finally retire!)
  • #52,798
  • Jul 5, 2013 1:39pm Jul 5, 2013 1:39pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} That is backwards to many, but tah, and a few others get this.
The statement "backwards to many" caught my eye.

I have been floundering for well over five years trying to get a handle
on the essence of forex trading. It wasn't until I stumbled across the
book "Mastering the Markets" that I began to truly understand. All of
the previous time was spent "backwards thinking." I had no idea that
I was approaching things all wrong until reading that book.

Then traderathome comes along with PVSRA, and that was another
revelation. Now I understood WHAT the "big boys" were doing in
addition to WHEN they were doing it.

I am a long way from mastering the techniques spelled out by TAH,
but I study his posts intently, as I know I am finally on the right path.

I am a small time trader, having begun with a $150 live account in
March 2012. I used all my marvelous trading skills and managed to
take the account down to $17. I had a big problem with not making
myself exit a trade when it was going south at that time. Begginning
in October of that year, and making a valian effort to exit trades at an
appropriate time, I got the account up to around $25 by April 2013.
And then Mastering the Markets and PVSRA came into the picture.
Things finally began to make some sense to me.

The account reached $151 this week, with most of the gains coming
in May and June after studying and applying PVSRA. I have to believe
that is more than just a coincedence. I have to say I am still a work
in progress, but at least I am pointed in the right direction.

Kudos to sonicdeejay for providing the fertile ground with sonic r, and
to traderathome for planting the seeds with his efforts, templates, and
teachings about PVSRA. I will always be grateful.



(ps - one thing I would like to add is, this recent trading has been done
using .02/pip with PVSRA. Big results with small risk!)
  • #52,799
  • Jul 5, 2013 2:10pm Jul 5, 2013 2:10pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} (Great! Now I can finally retire!)

There is a difference between the head coach and the offensive coordinator, tah. Don't be silly.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,800
  • Jul 5, 2013 2:23pm Jul 5, 2013 2:23pm
This post is worth a re-read.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...35#post6768335
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