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  •  pipy
  • | Joined Dec 2008 | Status: Member | 18 Posts
I believe MA strategy, with well-defined stop losses. (trend following strategy). I use back testing, but I have not found good enough, robust method that applied to the FX market.
I prefer a simple strategy. If someone has a system that believes it is a good and reliable, have it published, and I'll try to do a back test and publish the results.
 
 
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  •  billytt
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After spending years testing out all of the indicators, I have successfully settled on just one, a moving average cross over. I have found that it works best with a specific pair and a specific time frame. It should be noted that they work not in and of themselves but because large numbers of people use them.
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yes I agree, my girl ( I always speak of her) only trades(or did) on e/u with a 2/20 ema on hour chart. I only trade the e/j on 9/18/30 with hour chart and 10 min confirmation when it happens
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
 
 
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  •  billytt
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Quoting pipy
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I believe MA strategy, with well-defined stop losses. (trend folloeing strategy). I use back testing, but I have not found good enough, robust method that applied to the FX market. I prefer a simple strategy. If someone has a system that believes it is a good and reliable, have it published, and I'll try to do a back test and publish the results.
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Trade qopen range breakout and/or inside bars and you cannot go wrong. I think trying to develop a MA strategy could prove wrong but it can be done or going off my testing , be good
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
 
 
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  •  billytt
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 25,867 Posts
we had on e/j an inside bar which could of been traded aggressively for 10 pips, I did not do this one as the spread was too much and close to us open

that's on the hour chart
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
 
 
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  •  quin2k
  • | Joined Jun 2008 | Status: Member | 12 Posts
Shahroor,

What's happened to the interesting MA system that you started but haven't quite finished? Ignore the naysayers and let's see the product of your research.

quin2k
 
 
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  •  billytt
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catch you guys later, I will be trading very soon, lets see what happens, trade well
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
 
 
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  •  attiq237
  • | Joined Jan 2013 | Status: Member | 6 Posts
hi..
i work on SMAs..
30,50, and 100
it reeally rewards,,
must have heard about Hector trading principles....
sir it pays,, ,,
 
 
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  • Jul 5, 2013 8:47am Jul 5, 2013 8:47am
  •  pipy
  • | Joined Dec 2008 | Status: Member | 18 Posts
STRATEGY DEFINITION
1H
EMA 1 20
EMA 2 2

TEST PERIOD
PERIOD 05/07/2012-05/07/2013

TRADING APPROACH:LONG / SHORT

INITIAL CAPITAL
100 K



LONG SHORT TOTAL
TRADES 194 194 388
WINS 55 53 108
LOSSES 139 139 278
P/L 2.15K "-2,82K" "-468,29"
% P/L "2.15" "-2,82" "-0,67"
AVG P/L 11,07 "-14,52" "-1,72"
TOTAL WINS 23,53k 19,42k 42,95k
TOTAL LOSSES 21,38k 22,24k 43,62k
% WINNING RATIO 27,84
% LOSING RATIO 71,65

% MAX DD 9,54

% MAX INCREASE 12,53
 
 
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  • Jul 5, 2013 8:58am Jul 5, 2013 8:58am
  •  Puritan
  • | Joined Mar 2011 | Status: Member | 95 Posts
Thanks for the offer. Here is one that I have found to be effective. It is in the Euro/yen 5 min TF and the MA's are 5 and 8. I haven't done a lot of back testing on this so it would be interesting to see what the results would be.
 
 
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  • Jul 5, 2013 9:00am Jul 5, 2013 9:00am
  •  billytt
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 25,867 Posts
have a good weekend guys, I am done. I am not going to trade the next inside bar after the news release. Beautiful move up, tell the truth I was busted on one trade as I made a slight error with the calculations probably because I was speaking online lol but on the whole a gooooooooooooooooooood day, be good. I am off out in the sun and beer
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
 
 
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  •  billytt
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STRATEGY DEFINITION 1H EMA 1 20 EMA 2 2 TEST PERIOD PERIOD 05/07/2012-05/07/2013 TRADING APPROACH:LONG / SHORT INITIAL CAPITAL 100 K LONG SHORT TOTAL TRADES 194 194 388 WINS 55 53 108 LOSSES 139 139 278 P/L 2.15K "-2,82K" "-468,29" % P/L "2.15" "-2,82" "-0,67" AVG P/L 11,07 "-14,52" "-1,72" TOTAL WINS 23,53k 19,42k 42,95k TOTAL LOSSES 21,38k 22,24k 43,62k % WINNING RATIO 27,84 % LOSING RATIO 71,65 % MAX DD 9,54 % MAX INCREASE 12,53
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pipy, before I go are you trading using e/j today is a special day for trading crosses due to NFP news release, be good
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
 
 
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  • Jul 5, 2013 9:06am Jul 5, 2013 9:06am
  •  pipy
  • | Joined Dec 2008 | Status: Member | 18 Posts
I m long on usdjpy from 99,98
 
 
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  •  pemully
  • | Joined Aug 2011 | Status: riding the lightning | 935 Posts
Quoting Kanzler
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{quote} Money has a funny way of finding its way to the right peoples' pockets. I don't regret to inform you whatever account gains you have are simply in transit.
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Eat your heart out dude...Im no pro...I make a lot of mistakes and miss a lot of opportunities...I am still evolving and I will be the trader you'd hate to be fading....
wo-yoy! wo-yoy! wo-yoy! wo-yoi! wo-yoy-yoy-yoy!
 
 
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  •  pemully
  • | Joined Aug 2011 | Status: riding the lightning | 935 Posts
Quoting pemully
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{quote} Eat your heart out dude...Im no pro...I make a lot of mistakes and miss a lot of opportunities...I am still evolving and I will be the trader you'd hate to be fading....
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MA works guys,but not in the conventional sense....the future is linked to history...all speculation relies on this fact as Livermore once said.
wo-yoy! wo-yoy! wo-yoy! wo-yoi! wo-yoy-yoy-yoy!
 
 
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  • Jul 5, 2013 1:06pm Jul 5, 2013 1:06pm
  •  shahroor
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: Member | 315 Posts
Hi guys, I am back from holiday now, its so annoying to find out that the weather forecast for the next few days is 100% better that it was over my holiday week ie no rain or wind but never mind we still had a great time . hope you were having good time on this thread too
 
 
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  • Jul 5, 2013 1:09pm Jul 5, 2013 1:09pm
  •  shahroor
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: Member | 315 Posts
Quoting Pat494
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A pity that this interesting thread has been hijacked by the name calling lot. Let's keep on track guys
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Thanks for this reminder Pat , you are absolutely right the thread has been drifting away from its main person but don't worry I am back now with some interesting updates
 
 
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  • Jul 5, 2013 1:13pm Jul 5, 2013 1:13pm
  •  shahroor
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: Member | 315 Posts
Quoting billytt
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{quote} Hi bud, this thread is more of a jolly but it does have its serious side if you read between the lines, Their is one part missing though, be good
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billytt, you are right about the serious side of this thread and I like the way you look at things , however a bit of friendly chat and fun is welcomed too
 
 
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  • Jul 5, 2013 1:19pm Jul 5, 2013 1:19pm
  •  shahroor
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: Member | 315 Posts
Quoting pipy
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I believe MA strategy, with well-defined stop losses. (trend following strategy). I use back testing, but I have not found good enough, robust method that applied to the FX market. I prefer a simple strategy. If someone has a system that believes it is a good and reliable, have it published, and I'll try to do a back test and publish the results.
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HI pipy, thanks for your offer . I will definitely need your help to test our system once its finalised, not that I cant do it but being the creator of the system I'd rather have someone else check it to eliminate any bias in my testing and results
 
 
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  • Jul 5, 2013 1:22pm Jul 5, 2013 1:22pm
  •  shahroor
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: Member | 315 Posts
Quoting billytt
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{quote} Trade qopen range breakout and/or inside bars and you cannot go wrong. I think trying to develop a MA strategy could prove wrong but it can be done or going off my testing , be good
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billytt don't say that , keep the encouragement going and say we will definitely do it and develop a profitable system
 
 
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  • Jul 5, 2013 1:25pm Jul 5, 2013 1:25pm
  •  shahroor
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: Member | 315 Posts
Quoting quin2k
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Shahroor, What's happened to the interesting MA system that you started but haven't quite finished? Ignore the naysayers and let's see the product of your research. quin2k
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thanks for asking my friend . I am pleased to tell you that the system has only got better , I will post more details later tonight , as just arrived home from holiday
 
 
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