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  • #52,601
  • Jul 4, 2013 9:40am Jul 4, 2013 9:40am
Quoting Tymedu
Difference between average down (aka 'martingala') vs building position It's sad to have to write this post to claridy the difference, because I always suppose we all here are intelligent people, but... Let's put an example to explain the difference between average down and building position. Let's say our normal entry when we trade with a classic entry is 1 lot. We put an entry and the price moves against us 50 pips. Then we decided to add another 1 lot entry. If we repeat this process 18 times more, adding entries when the price is moving against...
Couldn't have said it any clearer - good job Tymedu!

It's the same EXCEPT, it's better. The added PARTS of the position/trade
allow you to exit the trade with a profit, even if one or more of the PARTS
of the position/trade are losers. To me, that is the beauty of building
a position.

  • #52,602
  • Jul 4, 2013 9:46am Jul 4, 2013 9:46am
Thanks to Prof TAH for guiding and always post good analysis! I really benefit a lot from the system!! I hope i can do better in future! Cheers guys!

RESULT IN 3 DAYS!!
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  • #52,603
  • Jul 4, 2013 9:52am Jul 4, 2013 9:52am
Quoting jasakreatif
{quote} check this out , and lets think.. about building position aka opposite move {image} the trick is , to survive with criticts , take multiple pair , so if one pair gone , another pair gain to cover smart frankenstain isnt ? , but the hole could be deeper friend. than we loss the system .
You could be right, why not. I could be wrong, why not. I never do criticism, I prefer to analyze and absorb. This is like everything in this life, time will say. For now, I am winning money, and at least for me that's the important.

But again, I fully respect your opinion and I learn from it as well, so keep posting charts because they are interesting.

Best, Tymedu.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #52,604
  • Jul 4, 2013 9:53am Jul 4, 2013 9:53am
Quoting Tymedu
Difference between average down (aka 'martingala') vs building position It's sad to have to write this post to claridy the difference, because I always suppose we all here are intelligent people, but... Let's put an example to explain the difference between average down and building position. Let's say our normal entry when we trade with a classic entry is 1 lot. We put an entry and the price moves against us 50 pips. Then we decided to add another 1 lot entry. If we repeat this process 18 times more, adding entries when the price is moving against...
Tymedu,

God bless you for your efforts here. Personally, I get to the point of not wanting to put myself out to explain to folks that come here to display their "Proclamations" from another kingdom, as though they have any relevance. Which they don't, and those folks know it. They are only being intentionally disruptive.

But, maybe by you going the "extra mile" with them like you just did, it will either help them get on-board, or reveal them to all Sonicers here as folks without good intentions.

-tah
  • #52,605
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:00am Jul 4, 2013 10:00am
Quoting marvas
PVRSA USD/YEN from my analysis my conclusion is that the MMs are bears. Would I be correct thinking this? {image}
UJ PVSRA Analysis

UJ hike the price above the whole number and there's some high activity trading, i believe MM's still bear..
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  • #52,606
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:13am Jul 4, 2013 10:13am
Quoting Tymedu
Difference between average down (aka 'martingala') vs building position It's sad to have to write this post to claridy the difference, because I always suppose we all here are intelligent people, but... Let's put an example to explain the difference between average down and building position. Let's say our normal entry when we trade with a classic entry is 1 lot. We put an entry and the price moves against us 50 pips. Then we decided to add another 1 lot entry. If we repeat this process 18 times more, adding entries when the price is moving against...

I will ask you what I asked tah, when you reach you max exposure, where is your stop? In other words, when you're building a position reaches one lot, what then? When do you get out?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,607
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:19am Jul 4, 2013 10:19am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Although I am aware of the system tah, no one has explained that when you reach your maximum exposure, where is your stop? As you are well aware, the uptrend in the yen has been brutal to this way of trading. But, so far, while you did tell me that you trade dimes, you did not specifically tell me what percentage of your account that is. If you are down 2000+ pips, over multiple yen pairs, how much can you, and should you, be risking? You are coder, so I expect a quantitative answer to this.
I personally have a difficult time approaching a trade with a specific
"percentage of account" amount.

The tolerance is totally subjective to each individual, and is relevent only
to their personal account size and the size of the position(s).

A 2,000 pip turn to the negative side might only be equal to $20. If a PVSRA
study of the trade indicates a certain direction, then the trade might still be
a valid trade - to that specific individual, based upon their personal parameters.

You really can't look at a trade in a general fashion (in my opinion).

  • #52,608
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:26am Jul 4, 2013 10:26am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I will ask you what I asked tah, when you reach you max exposure, where is your stop? In other words, when you're building a position reaches one lot, what then? When do you get out?
The more you erg and dyne your trading process the worse the results.
Instead strive to be as imperfect as possible.
I aim for a high level of mediocrity.
  • #52,609
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:30am Jul 4, 2013 10:30am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} I personally have a difficult time approaching a trade with a specific "percentage of account" amount. The tolerance is totally subjective to each individual, and is relevent only to their personal account size and the size of the position(s). A 2,000 pip turn to the negative side might only be equal to $20. If a PVSRA study of the trade indicates a certain direction, then the trade might still be a valid trade - to that specific individual, based upon their personal parameters. You really can't look at a trade in a general fashion (in...
Sure you can, if you are competent. You risk a certain amount per trade, right? I am asking, what is the amount, percentage wise, should a Sonicer be risking when building a position. Have seen the words "small seeds". Believe or not, that can be quantified on a percentage basis. What percentage of an account qualifies as a "small seed'? That is an objective question, and deserving of an objective answer.

Now if you come and say it is subjective, then i will leave you alone.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,610
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:31am Jul 4, 2013 10:31am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} The more you erg and dyne your trading process the worse the results. Instead strive to be as imperfect as possible. I aim for a high level of mediocrity.
This means nothing to a trader. Traders deal with hard numbers. Speculators deal on another level. Do you trade, or do you speculate?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,611
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:34am Jul 4, 2013 10:34am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} This means nothing to a trader. Traders deal with hard numbers. Speculators deal on another level. Do you trade, or do you speculate?
If I told you what works for me you won't believe it.
  • #52,612
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:35am Jul 4, 2013 10:35am
I'm a beginner in forex I study multiple system trading I like Sonic system I want to study this system But I'dont understand red candle blue candle green candle ?
  • #52,613
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:36am Jul 4, 2013 10:36am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} If I told you what works for me you won't believe it.

You never know, Mingary, what works for you?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,614
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:42am Jul 4, 2013 10:42am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} GBPJPY closed all 7 components for 700 pips gain. {image}
futurespeter, congratulations for your gain on this transaction ...

I would like to ask a question, it shows that its operations and the average is an indicator that does this? If so, which indicator is?

Sorry my bad english ... thank you
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I am Brazilian and I never give up!
  • #52,615
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:48am Jul 4, 2013 10:48am
Quoting windelevel
{quote} futurespeter, congratulations for your gain on this transaction ... I would like to ask a question, it shows that its operations and the average is an indicator that does this? If so, which indicator is? Sorry my bad english ... thank you {image}
It is an indicator. tah will be releasing this month if he can get some peace and get back to coding.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,616
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:50am Jul 4, 2013 10:50am
Quoting windelevel
{quote} futurespeter, congratulations for your gain on this transaction ... I would like to ask a question, it shows that its operations and the average is an indicator that does this? If so, which indicator is? Sorry my bad english ... thank you {image}

Your bad english is not an excuse for keeping up with the thread and whats posted here.

If you bothered to do that - you would know what indi it is

Geeezzzz

H.
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #52,617
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:51am Jul 4, 2013 10:51am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} It is an indicator. tah will be releasing this month if he can get some peace and get back to coding.
Thanks for answering ...

But this indicator already available in the Beta version for all ?? because I saw several images with this indicator and found it very interesting ....
I am Brazilian and I never give up!
  • #52,618
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:52am Jul 4, 2013 10:52am
Quoting Mydream
I'm a beginner in forex I study multiple system trading I like Sonic system I want to study this system But I'dont understand red candle blue candle green candle ?
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Not trying to be an ass, but the answers you seek are in the documentation. tah has also left his indies open, so you can read the user notes.( I learned that myself just last week).

The answers are all there.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,619
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:53am Jul 4, 2013 10:53am
Quoting windelevel
{quote} Thanks for answering ... But this indicator already available in the Beta version for all ?? because I saw several images with this indicator and found it very interesting ....
It is beta, so not yet. He is working on it.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #52,620
  • Jul 4, 2013 10:54am Jul 4, 2013 10:54am
Quoting hansma
{quote} Your bad english is not an excuse for keeping up with the thread and whats posted here. If you bothered to do that - you would know what indi it is Geeezzzz H.
There is a saying that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.........
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
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