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  • #52,581
  • Jul 4, 2013 7:31am Jul 4, 2013 7:31am
Quoting marvas
{quote} I've taken exactly the same trade. My TP is at 1.52500. Where have you located yours? I've also added pending buy order for every 75 pips it moves my way
I have an open TP watching volume as my exit strategy. Now some insight to my leverage and how I determine my entries. In order to achieve the maximum return I have adopted entries based on daily average range and so for example I will enter long or short once I establish if the MM are bulls or bears. Then I wait for a liquidity drive such as we just got on the GU. I will then start my building from there. I use 1 times leverage entries. For example if you have a $1000 account then I would use one micro lot entries or if I have a $10,000 I would use 1 mini lot entries.....50,000 is 5mini lots entries you can see how I size my entries. Then I look at the daily average range and consider what the MM train the newbies to do and set 50 to 100 pip SL so they can clean house over and over. So I only want to add to my position when the market has traveled at least a minimum of the daily average range against me. So a draw down means I am given the chance to add to my position to obtain a better price point for the run for profits. I hope this helps shed some light on size entries. Now do not try to open 10 different pairs using one times leverage as you will surely blow up your account.
  • #52,582
  • Jul 4, 2013 7:42am Jul 4, 2013 7:42am
thats what i should call 'market manipulation , need more multiple luck
  • #52,583
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:04am Jul 4, 2013 8:04am
simple setup

Quoting sonicdeejay
White :::: Open positions Red::: SL line Blue/Lite Blue :::: TP, Close positions Yesterday was ranging during UK session and I await for a valid break out. Please attention to how I count my wave using HH,HL and LH,LL... Trade 1 (long) Entry..I was waiting for the ranging line to get broken (The white line) SL.... I put my SL @ few pips below nearest support level. (The red line) TP.... I book my profit when top "M" shapre is broken. {image}
please dont fuck the system

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  • #52,584
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:08am Jul 4, 2013 8:08am
au long
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Dragon the best Indicator
  • #52,585
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:17am Jul 4, 2013 8:17am
  •  Ravelt
  • | Joined Feb 2013 | Status: The Closer You Look The Less You Se | 194 Posts
Quoting jasakreatif
simple setup {quote} please dont fuck the system {image}
how you make the box ?? is that using rectangle tools in MT4 ?
  • #52,586
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:21am Jul 4, 2013 8:21am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} EURUSD added long scout#6,7, adjusted TP Bullish MM's are working the price down for buying low. {image}

EURUSD long trade

Added (03.07.2013) long #8,9,10,11 adjusted TP

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Today added long #12,13,14,15,16, adjusted TP

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Today the greedy MM's did use the US Independence day for their own advantage, stealing Dollars. No reason to panic.
  • #52,587
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:23am Jul 4, 2013 8:23am
Quoting kaczor
{quote} Watch your language, no one here gave you right to call me or anyone moron. As far as i know there are rules at this forums which anyone even "guru" is supposed to obey. Also if talking about facts i see huge volume increase when prices goes lower at eu/jpy at your own picture. http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...3&d=1372930731 You arent first one who invented volume trading and number of open positions as indicators or what is going on. There is for example R. Arms 'Significance of volume" and many...
Holy Jesus Germaine Christ... SOMEBODY HERE WITH AN ACTUAL BRAIN. Hi Kaczor.

"How dare you criticize PVSRA! Don't you know, when the analysis is right, it is right 1000% of the time??? We just need to scout through only for like a bazillion times. "
  • #52,588
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:27am Jul 4, 2013 8:27am
EU entered long EP 1. There was a nice drive for liquidity. MM are bulls creating liquidity right during the off day of the US. This makes it easy to push down further to obtain cheap longs. Many were stopped out of their long who use 100 pip SL.
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  • #52,589
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:34am Jul 4, 2013 8:34am
Quoting unclesu
{quote} Holy Jesus Germaine Christ... SOMEBODY HERE WITH AN ACTUAL BRAIN. Hi Kaczor. "How dare you criticize PVSRA! Don't you know, when the analysis is right, it is right 1000% of the time??? We just need to scout through only for like a bazillion times. "
sorry mind Your business and don't post things like this..everyone trade their own way..TAH and Sonic..at least they share knowledge, give perspective to market so please...

mind U business
  • #52,590
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:35am Jul 4, 2013 8:35am
Quoting kaczor
{quote} Watch your language, no one here gave you right to call me or anyone moron. As far as i know there are rules at this forums which anyone even "guru" is supposed to obey. Also if talking about facts i see huge volume increase when prices goes lower at eu/jpy at your own picture. http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...3&d=1372930731 You arent first one who invented volume trading and number of open positions as indicators or what is going on. There is for example R. Arms 'Significance of volume" and many...

Quoting unclesu
{quote} Holy Jesus Germaine Christ... SOMEBODY HERE WITH AN ACTUAL BRAIN. Hi Kaczor. "How dare you criticize PVSRA! Don't you know, when the analysis is right, it is right 1000% of the time??? We just need to scout through only for like a bazillion times. "

As I said, from 1st to 15th... time to flame.

Guys, I respect your opinions because they are just that, opinions. But what I really can't understand is why do you have that need to participate in a system that you don't like. If you don't like, delete the url and move on! What's the deal? Why do you have to come here and flame? Do you need to fill you ego?

And btw, you can't flame somebody because he is flaming you and then to say "Somebody here with an actual brain". You don't like, leave the thread, it's simple. Meanwhile, let us to win money (or to lose it, time will say that).

Why is so hard for some people to assimilate others guys success? :S

Best, Tymedu.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #52,591
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:37am Jul 4, 2013 8:37am
Quoting Ravelt
{quote} how you make the box ?? is that using rectangle tools in MT4 ?
ya , with that ugly box to draw wave hh lh ll , i posted my trades last week everyday, 100% profit without stupid averaging.
  • #52,592
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:39am Jul 4, 2013 8:39am
It never ceases to amaze that traders come to this thread and act like they know how to trade. Then they proceed to rant and rave about draw down, trade ratios, SL, and how there is no market manipulation. They never post trades live never do they show any consistency with the thread. If this thread is so bad why are they here? Their system of trading is so superior. If we have it all wrong then please start your own thread post your trades and when your account is growing at a faster rate I am sure you will find many more followers than here. But in the mean time please quit littering the thread with non sense about how your trading system is so superior. There is enough to read without trash posts. If you do not understand the system or choose to use your superior methods please post elsewhere. Thank you.
  • #52,593
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:43am Jul 4, 2013 8:43am
Quoting hansma
EJ - Reshorted. Letīs see if the fibs and rectangels hold water along with my sr reading. Regards, H. {image}

Slowly getting there

H.
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #52,594
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:48am Jul 4, 2013 8:48am
I would like to learn PVSRA, like most of those who follow this thread. Messages with unfounded criticism and the result of ignorance are very annoying. Critics unfounded and ignorant through lack of information: LEAVE THE THREAD, YOU ARE VERY ANNOYING! Sorry to be so forthright, but I think I need to make myself understood. Thank you.

I thought destroy innovative ideas and success, only belonged to the idiosyncrasies of my country.
Newbie trader
  • #52,595
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:50am Jul 4, 2013 8:50am
Quoting worldfreedom
It never ceases to amaze that traders come to this thread and act like they know how to trade. Then they proceed to rant and rave about draw down, trade ratios, SL, and how there is no market manipulation. They never post trades live never do they show any consistency with the thread. If this thread is so bad why are they here? Their system of trading is so superior. If we have it all wrong then please start your own thread post your trades and when your account is growing at a faster rate I am sure you will find many more followers than here. But...
First if you post your system at this forum you agree that people may comment it.Its not like its closed group etc.
Second im actually interested in concept of volume and this is why i ask some RATIONAL questions.
Third i dont know what are you talking about i dodnt tell anything about my system or anything like that, would be nice if you have a clue if you post something.

And most important fact is that any system can always be better or improved (as its know PVRSA is in testing mode) and dont be offended but people who are just asslickers and dont have their opinion wont make it better or wont tell truth if its bad because they are committed to idea and they will do everything to defend it.Followers must follow their guru they cant chose otherwise.

Why rational questions are responded with such agresion and defensive attitude.
It looks like some sect or smth lol.

For example im thinking that there are many merits in watching volume i just find in unacceptable to use it as bad excuse to averaging loses.
Averaging loses shows that trader has psychological weakness beacuse he wants to be right so much.Its ego driven trading common wekaness.

It could be improved in many ways by giving additional conditions but whatever you say its just "accept what is here or get out"

Again i asked about maximal drawdown, leverage etc
Asked about eu/jpy chart which imo doesnt show accumultaing shorts.

really offending and wrong questions how dare i to ask lol
  • #52,596
  • Jul 4, 2013 8:58am Jul 4, 2013 8:58am
Difference between average down (aka 'martingala') vs building position

It's sad to have to write this post to claridy the difference, because I always suppose we all here are intelligent people, but... Let's put an example to explain the difference between average down and building position.

Let's say our normal entry when we trade with a classic entry is 1 lot. We put an entry and the price moves against us 50 pips. Then we decided to add another 1 lot entry. If we repeat this process 18 times more, adding entries when the price is moving against our initial entry, we will risk a total of 20 lots. That is to average down.

However, let's imagine that we want to start to use PVSRA as a trading method. We divide our normal entry (1 lot) per 20, so our entries will be using 0.05 lots. If we do the same process than we did before, we will risk a total of 1 lot. That is the same amount that a normal classic entry. That is to build a position.

As you can see, there is a huge difference between one method and the other one. But I'm really tired to read people saying this is average loss, when it is not.

Best, Tymedu.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #52,597
  • Jul 4, 2013 9:08am Jul 4, 2013 9:08am
Good morning, Sonicers!

I see the market makers went to work in these lazy hazy summer days of missing the US MMs. The stinking banks placed more orders where they wanted fills to further build their positions, and today the market makers moved prices to fill those orders. They are allowed to screw prices up to 200 pips in a single day. More than that is considered too disruptive to the market. So, the banks left orders, dangling the carrots in front of the lackey market makers, whom dutifully did the banks beck and call today, when it was easier to move prices.

I did some trade additions of my own today, which I will post later. It is the 4th of July here and I am kind of busy.

I pray all you genuine Sonicers took advantage of the stinking bank's gift to us, as they successfully tempted the market makers to move prices.

Tomorrow is another big USD release day, yet the Friday following the 4th of July is not like a "normal" Friday. Lots of fat bankers will still be out enjoying their expensive toys, though I suppose they did order their lackeys back to work, building their positions for them.

Maybe see you all tomorrow!

-tah
  • #52,598
  • Edited 9:26am Jul 4, 2013 9:15am | Edited 9:26am
PVRSA USD/YEN

from my analysis my conclusion is that the MMs are bears. Would I be correct thinking this?
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  • #52,599
  • Jul 4, 2013 9:25am Jul 4, 2013 9:25am
  •  Ravelt
  • | Joined Feb 2013 | Status: The Closer You Look The Less You Se | 194 Posts
Quoting jasakreatif
{quote} ya , with that ugly box to draw wave hh lh ll , i posted my trades last week everyday, 100% profit without stupid averaging.
cool i'll look on your post history. Thanks
  • #52,600
  • Jul 4, 2013 9:36am Jul 4, 2013 9:36am
Quoting Tymedu
Difference between average down (aka 'martingala') vs building position It's sad to have to write this post to claridy the difference, because I always suppose we all here are intelligent people, but... Let's put an example to explain the difference between average down and building position. Let's say our normal entry when we trade with a classic entry is 1 lot. We put an entry and the price moves against us 50 pips. Then we decided to add another 1 lot entry. If we repeat this process 18 times more, adding entries when the price is moving against...
check this out , and lets think.. about building position aka opposite move

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the trick is , to survive with criticts , take multiple pair , so if one pair gone , another pair gain to cover smart frankenstain isnt ? , but the hole could be deeper friend.

than we loss the system .
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