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  • #52,481
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:02am Jul 3, 2013 11:02am
hi hansma
is it right?
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  • #52,482
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:03am Jul 3, 2013 11:03am
prof TAH or who understands:

I try to analyze the USDCHF PVSRA. Figure M15, volume increases on high, could mean stop the rise or are bears? Later the price returns to SR 0.94750, and seems to have entered the bulls, but suddenly? or is it a runing for profits? or is it a volume stoping? PVSRA M1 bears appear first after bulls, as in M15. What is my mistake?
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  • #52,483
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:15am Jul 3, 2013 11:15am
Quoting fex
prof TAH or who understands: I try to analyze the USDCHF PVSRA. Figure M15, volume increases on high, could mean stop the rise or are bears? Later the price returns to SR 0.94750, and seems to have entered the bulls, but suddenly? or is it a runing for profits? or is it a volume stoping? PVSRA M1 bears appear first after bulls, as in M15. What is my mistake? {image} {image}
How can anyone tell you what your mistake is if you have not first told them what your conclusion is? What is your conclusion, and why?
  • #52,484
  • Edited 12:02pm Jul 3, 2013 11:22am | Edited 12:02pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GJ Short Trade: Added short #17, Scout. Adjusted TP. Here, as across the board on many pairs, the US open MMs suddenly hiked (or diked) prices to advantage themselves in continuing to build shorts (or longs). These moves were all followed by increased trading. So, PVSRA indicates the MMs are what they were; no change, just outright market manipulation to "steal" from others. In these cases, it probably was the lackey market makers, under the thumbs of the biggest stinking banks, that suddenly rammed the prices. They too are faced with...
GJ Short Trade:

Added shorts #18 and #19 Scouts. Immediately after the London close, entering the after hours when it is easiest for MMs to manipulate prices to where they want them to be to advantage their position building, the MMs hiked the price above previous highs. This was followed by higher trading levels than before the hike, before the London session closed! This is a perfect PVSRA indication the MMs are bears, still building shorts. We have not seen even the tip of the iceberg as regards a run down, but it might not happen until next week (this part is speculative). Adjusted TP.
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  • #52,485
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:22am Jul 3, 2013 11:22am
Quoting banteka
{quote} Based on the chart, first I use to place the SL, then I put the value in the "Stop-loss, pips estándar" box. So, first of all, I determine the Stop Loss and then, using the calculator, I get the lots (or microlots in my case). I think this is the best way to preserve my capital. Do you understand?
Yes, but in i would like to know the criteria that you use to determine the Stop Loss That would help me a lot Thanks
  • #52,486
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:36am Jul 3, 2013 11:36am
I closed all my EU longs, I like the others XXXUSD pairs, but I'm not convinced about EU. At this point I still they are mid term bears and maybe they push the price higher, but I will use that to build my shorts. It was a mistake (at least for me) to build those longs EU, but I had a little profit.

Looking at M1 chart, I can see higher volume once price crosses 1.2975 and 1.30.
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  • #52,487
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:38am Jul 3, 2013 11:38am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} How can anyone tell you what your mistake is if you have not first told them what your conclusion is? What is your conclusion, and why?
My conclusion is that the MM are bulls: they have dropped to the SR 0.94750 (double bottom) to buy more. And that increases in volume in the highs above were stoping volume only to find better prices. (0.94500 may be a very important)
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  • #52,488
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:41am Jul 3, 2013 11:41am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Same here, I'm Spanish too and I know Spanish people are so bad in English. PM me with your skype if you want, maybe if we are enough people we can create a skype group to discuss and share
You have a PM
  • #52,489
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:42am Jul 3, 2013 11:42am
Quoting fex
{quote} My conclusion is that the MM are bulls: they have dropped to the SR 0.94750 (double bottom) to buy more. And that increases in volume in the highs above were stoping volume only to find better prices. (0.94500 may be a very important)
Show me your M1 PVSRA analysis.
  • #52,490
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:48am Jul 3, 2013 11:48am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Show me your M1 PVSRA analysis.
(I'm sorry.) Only see bulls. I need sleep?
Building positions at lows. quarter and midle level
"My conclusion is that the MM are bulls: they have dropped to the SR 0.94750 (double bottom) to buy more. "
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  • #52,491
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:50am Jul 3, 2013 11:50am
Quoting Apollo14
Updated GU & UC http://500euroalgiorno.blogspot.it/2...1430-rome.html http://500euroalgiorno.blogspot.com/...1500-rome.html Tell me if you enjoy or if they are spam or disorder. I believe that the algorithm describes well the Bertrand, I have yet to perfect but it helps to buy / sell on the bottom / top & 4h 1h

EU Update

http://500euroalgiorno.blogspot.com/2013/07/eu-030713-1845-rome.html
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  • #52,492
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:57am Jul 3, 2013 11:57am
Quoting Tymedu
I closed all my EU longs, I like the others XXXUSD pairs, but I'm not convinced about EU. At this point I still they are mid term bears and maybe they push the price higher, but I will use that to build my shorts. It was a mistake (at least for me) to build those longs EU, but I had a little profit. Looking at M1 chart, I can see higher volume once price crosses 1.2975 and 1.30. {image}

Tymedu

Do you think the price is going to test the 1.2900 lows again before the price would be moved upwards?
  • #52,493
  • Jul 3, 2013 11:58am Jul 3, 2013 11:58am
Quoting fex
{quote} My conclusion is that the MM are bulls: they have dropped to the SR 0.94750 (double bottom) to buy more. And that increases in volume in the highs above were stoping volume only to find better prices. (0.94500 may be a very important)
I'm afraid you're right, the price continues to rise. Now we are on whole number we will see in the next minutes
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  • #52,494
  • Edited 12:19pm Jul 3, 2013 12:00pm | Edited 12:19pm
Quoting fex
{quote} (I'm sorry.) Only see bulls. I need sleep? Building positions at lows. quarter and midle level "My conclusion is that the MM are bulls: they have dropped to the SR 0.94750 (double bottom) to buy more. " {image}
PVSRA

I think you are looking at just tops and bottoms, very superficially. You are not taking in the "flow" of price and the notable volume or volume changes as the price cycles. This is the more difficult part because it is subjective. It is the "art form" part.

See how the MMs took price above whole number and then started the series of hikes & sells? See how when that process took price below the lower half number they stopped the drop and concentrated on hiking it more for the hike & sells? So, it looks like the MMs are perfectly willing to build shorts between the upper whole SR and that lower half SR. But not below it, not yet. That will come some time later.

My take.....
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  • #52,495
  • Jul 3, 2013 12:02pm Jul 3, 2013 12:02pm
Quoting ITrader81
{quote} Tymedu Do you think the price is going to test the 1.2900 lows again before the price would be moved upwards?
I think price will go way lower than 1.29 in the mid-term.
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  • #52,496
  • Jul 3, 2013 12:04pm Jul 3, 2013 12:04pm
Quoting abyarforx
hi hansma is it right? {image}

Nope - please look at some of my posted examples to get a better understanding.

In your picture you have two lower lows following each other - so it´s not a quasimodo.

Regards,

H.
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #52,497
  • Jul 3, 2013 12:12pm Jul 3, 2013 12:12pm
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} I think price will go way lower than 1.29 in the mid-term.
Hey Guy...i am looking your explorer and i do not understand your lev 0:1 ...my broker 0.01 lot is 0.1$ pip (leverage 1:500)...how do you make to obtain your pip value less than 0.1$
  • #52,498
  • Jul 3, 2013 12:16pm Jul 3, 2013 12:16pm
Quoting hansma
{quote} Nope - please look at some of my posted examples to get a better understanding. In your picture you have two lower lows following each other - so it´s not a quasimodo. Regards, H.
Thank
  • #52,499
  • Edited 12:36pm Jul 3, 2013 12:18pm | Edited 12:36pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} PVSRA I think you are looking at just tops and bottoms, very superficially. You are not taking in the "flow" of price and the notable volume or volume changes as the price cycles. This is the more difficult part because it is very subjective. It is the "art form" part. See how the MMs took price above whole number and then started the series of hikes & sells? See how when that process took price below the lower half number they stopped the drop and concentrated on hiking it more for the hike & sells? It will take time. My take..... {image}...
Thank you very much TAH. I'm not always wrong, but I tend to put my mistakes / doubts, I hope I have learned my lesson.

Edit: I think an error has been that: in M1 the price has not come down to below 1/4 & 1/2 number and then have symptoms of candles increased volume, were only peaks.
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  • #52,500
  • Jul 3, 2013 12:18pm Jul 3, 2013 12:18pm
My opinion: on the GJ was shakeout for next up trend. If you look at H1 & H4.

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