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  • #52,061
  • Jun 28, 2013 9:49am Jun 28, 2013 9:49am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Tymedu, This what you have in mind?..... {image}
Exactly, but I got ur point as well.
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  • #52,062
  • Jun 28, 2013 9:51am Jun 28, 2013 9:51am
Closed 5 scouts Eur/Usd - 75 pips = 375 pips * 3 accounts = 1.125 pips
All closed today. Nice weekend.
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  • #52,063
  • Jun 28, 2013 9:57am Jun 28, 2013 9:57am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Exactly, but I got ur point as well.
Tymedu,

It is a nice idea you have. I will play with it next week to see about the distraction factor and if it tends to seduce closing a profitable trade too soon. As it turned out, it is not too much clutter.
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  • #52,064
  • Edited 10:25am Jun 28, 2013 10:04am | Edited 10:25am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AU Short Trade: Added shorts #9 thru #11, all Scouts. M15 PVSRA is obvious. The bear MMs in the US session rammed the price upwards thru the whole number SR to stop out, trigger in, whatever would create added liquidity for more short building at these very attractively high prices. Adjusted TP. Edit: Added short #12, Scout (pic.2). Adjusted TP. {image} {image}
AU Short Trade:

Closed all 12 trade components for 1,560 pips gained.
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  • #52,065
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:08am Jun 28, 2013 10:08am
Who broke forexfactory. When I returned to my office the site was down for most of the night. I think it is MM trying to stop sonic and TAH from sharing the Holy Grail!!!

Ok on a serious note I entered EJ short and will start my build from here.
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  • #52,066
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:12am Jun 28, 2013 10:12am
I have entered short GJ also near the whole number.
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  • #52,067
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:15am Jun 28, 2013 10:15am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AU Short Trade: Closed all 12 trade components for 1,560 pips gained. {image}
Close AU or UC. Image is USDCAD
  • #52,068
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:19am Jun 28, 2013 10:19am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AU Short Trade: Closed all 12 trade components for 1,560 pips gained. {image}

HI prof Tah did you mean UC? thanks
  • #52,069
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:20am Jun 28, 2013 10:20am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Short Trade: Added short trade #21, Scout. PVSRA has not changed. MMs still bears. And the US MMs, of all MMs can move price horrendously when they smell blood. That is what they did, rammed the price up and threw on greatly increased trading on the way up and at, and after, the highs were reached. All this is evident on M1. I was not going to add to this trade, believing the downside was pending since GU had started down. But when I saw this play by the MMs and PVSRA continuing to assure me, I added also. {image}
EU Short Trade:

Closed all 21 components, as well as three very old lingering trades, for 2640 pips gained.
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  • #52,070
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:25am Jun 28, 2013 10:25am
Prof. TAH: What symptoms do you have the price on M1 when MM are no longer interested in a trend? MM Immediately makes their movements? Is there a break?
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  • #52,071
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:27am Jun 28, 2013 10:27am
Quoting zakopiec
{quote} Close AU or UC. Image is USDCAD
Quoting traderrijal
{quote} HI prof Tah did you mean UC? thanks
I meant AU. Sorry for including the wrong pic. I have corrected the post. Thanks for spotting that
  • #52,072
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:31am Jun 28, 2013 10:31am
Quoting fex
Prof. TAH: What symptoms do you have the price on M1 when MM are no longer interested in a trend? MM Immediately makes their movements? Is there a break? {image}
PVSRA, GU: MMs Just Stopping the Drop?

No one can predict what the MMs are going to do. If you are asking about current PA on GU, I don't see high volume that is more notable than surrounding, when price moved to lows. So, it seems they are not loading up at lows, just stopping the drop. Likely they will raise and resume shorting. Just my take.
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  • #52,073
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:35am Jun 28, 2013 10:35am
Quoting fex
Prof. TAH: What symptoms do you have the price on M1 when MM are no longer interested in a trend? MM Immediately makes their movements? Is there a break? {image}
I'm not TAH, but from my point of view you are right. There is an activity increase once the price crosses 1.52. But that doesn't have to mean a trend reversal. It could mean that for now it's ok and it's time to hike the price to add more shorts.

But it's a warning for sure, and from now on we have to pay attention to it. Also if they are closing shorts / adding longs, this will take time and price could continue dropping. Let's see.
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  • #52,074
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:48am Jun 28, 2013 10:48am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} PVSRA, GU: MMs Just Stopping the Drop? No one can predict what the MMs are going to do. If you are asking about current PA on GU, I don't see high volume that is more notable than surrounding, when price moved to lows. So, it seems they are not loading up at lows, just stopping the drop. Likely they will raise and resume shorting. Just my take. {image}
Thanks you, but:Not exactly what I wanted to know.
In a graph M1 How do we know that the MM are no longer interested in continuing the trend?

for example, in a downtrend, with MM in runing for profits, the price reaches the end, and MM are not interested in lowering the price: What should we see in M1? Absence of volume in a period of time?

(Sorry my english )
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  • #52,075
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:54am Jun 28, 2013 10:54am
Quoting fex
{quote} Thanks you, but:Not exactly what I wanted to know. In a graph M1 How do we know that the MM are no longer interested in continuing the trend? for example, in a downtrend, with MM in runing for profits, the price reaches the end, and MM are not interested in lowering the price: What should we see in M1? Absence of volume in a period of time? (Sorry my english )
In a dramatic sense, if the MMs are bears suddenly turned bulls, they'd likely terminate the lows with very high volume, indicating they are closing their shorts. But it is not always so obvious as that, as having one or a few very notable bars at or around the very lows. With PVSRA, one must continue the analysis to see how the price cycles and to see what happens at subsequent highs and lows as the price cycles. Realize that bears can close shorts at weekend to take profits, with the plans of hiking price again in the next week to rebuild their shorts. Therefore, that profit taking does not necessarily mean the MMs have switched from bear to bull. You see? That is why ongoing PVSRA is required.
  • #52,076
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:56am Jun 28, 2013 10:56am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} I'm not TAH, but from my point of view you are right. There is an activity increase once the price crosses 1.52. But that doesn't have to mean a trend reversal. It could mean that for now it's ok and it's time to hike the price to add more shorts. But it's a warning for sure, and from now on we have to pay attention to it. Also if they are closing shorts / adding longs, this will take time and price could continue dropping. Let's see.
Of course, sorry. Thank you very much, that clears my doubts about the graph


Quoting [url=http://www.forexfactory.com/traderathome
traderathome[/url];6784538]{quote}With PVSRA, one must continue the analysis to see how the price cycles and to see what happens at subsequent highs and lows. Realize that bears can close shorts at weekend to take profits, with the plans of hiking price again in the next week to rebuild their shorts. And profit taking does not necessarily mean the MMs have switched from bear to bull. You see? That is why ongoing PVSRA is required.
Yes Thank you very much
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  • #52,077
  • Jun 28, 2013 10:57am Jun 28, 2013 10:57am
Hey Guys,

I am quite new to forex , have few experience to be honest and was looking for a good system to follow. I have good understandings of indicators and so on, as i read a lot.

SO here i am finding the Sonic strategy but to be very clear i am a bit messed up.

I downloaded the templates and the indicatos, but there are lots of different versions. i used o use TAH-s one, byt not sure that it's correct.

Could you please give me links to which indicator i should use and a good example of entry and TP and SL orders of this strategy.

Cheerz and happy pipping
  • #52,078
  • Edited 11:21am Jun 28, 2013 11:06am | Edited 11:21am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Short Trade: Closed all 21 components, as well as three very old lingering trades, for 2640 pips gained. {image}
Great results, respect!
We can learn a lot from suboptimal trade management. Please can you tell us why you didn't close these very old trades?

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...92#post5962792

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...rt#post5968469


I did wrote some days ago that I believe the mental stop loss is for the trash can because these style of trading doesn't manage the losses. No offenses, TAH, I enjoy your work in progress and I am sure you understand me.

Great results also for me.

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Thank's a lot.

Regards

futurespeter
  • #52,079
  • Jun 28, 2013 11:16am Jun 28, 2013 11:16am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} Great results, respect! We can learn a lot from suboptimal trade management. Please can you tell us why you didn't close these very old trades? http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...92#post5962792 http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...rt#post5968469 I did wrote some days ago that I believe the mental stop loss is for the trash can because these style of trading doesn't manage the losses. No offenses, TAH, I enjoy your work in process and I am sure you understand me. Great results also for...
Very, Very Old Trades Not Closed?

Yes, I can tell you why I didn't close these very old trades. I have two reasons:

1. I was a worse trader then, than now.
2. I didn't like to take losses (still don't).

I also suspect that in the back of my mind I was convinced that what goes up, comes down. What percentage of time that is valid, and how long it might take, are two aspects I'd prefer not to frequently "test" in such a manner in the future.

BTW, the links to those three old trades are:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...88#post5925988
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...92#post5962792
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...69#post5968469

Also, congratulations on your trading results. It would be nice if you (and any other Sonicers out there) would translate their success into brief text, a commendation of the results you are getting, and post it. I'd like FF at large to keep seeing such proclamations, for obvious reasons. We can build a really huge gathering of successful traders, and give the MMs fits!
  • #52,080
  • Jun 28, 2013 11:18am Jun 28, 2013 11:18am
AU 4 trades closed: 4 x 76 = 304 pips
EU 6 trades closed: 6 x 126 = 756 pips
Now add the quantities, because it sounds much better
756 + 304 = 1060 pips
Once again, Thank you very much to all who make possible this
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