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  • #51,961
  • Jun 26, 2013 9:52pm Jun 26, 2013 9:52pm
for anyone could tell me how to withdraw money from multiple hedge , cover one hole dug another hole ,
mislead all newbie with post only covered hole , but not to me , grow up man we need money ff dont pay us salary for thread
  • #51,962
  • Edited 10:48pm Jun 26, 2013 9:53pm | Edited 10:48pm
Quoting ArtfulDodger
TAH, I want to close out the week by personally thanking you for all of your contributions. You have changed the way I previously thought about how the market functions, and with rather astounding results. Trading with very small amounts (and I do mean small - 0.02) I have begun to rebuild my account from a low of $17 to approximately $95. Nothing I have tried has provided any significant results until now, and I can't thank you enough. PVSRA ROCKS!
Quoting zawad4u
just closed some JPY pairs now for 2900pips i turned a $300 account to $2007 in just 20 days of trading this method...never loss yet just win win win...hw about turning a 3000 into $20,007 very posible....
Quoting worldfreedom
{quote} PVSRA increased my account by 24.34% in less than 30 days. This may not be as good as others but with little effort this was gained. That is far above my usual goal of 5%. So many thanks go to Sonic and TAH for all their efforts in this thread I do not believe you both are given enough praise for your time and effort spent giving some of the most insightful trading ideas in forex factory. I do truly believe you have created and refined the closest Holy Grail out there in Forexfactory.com. My hat off to both of you!!!!!!!!!! God Bless, World...
PVSRA is the Superior Market Analysis (and the Sonic R. System is the Superior Thread)

Some folks, not even knowing enough about PVSRA, will undoubtedly jump into the foray as dissenters. Not only would they be ill-informed as to the effectiveness of PVSRA, they'd be completely off on a wrong track. You see, I am not talking about how good the market analysis is that PVSRA provides, although nothing is superior. I am talking about the winning traders PVSRA produces!

Yep. You can scan tens of thousands of FF posts and not find a single thread with the volume of testimonies such as these above. And these are just the most recent ones on this thread.

I know that PVSRA is a winner. What makes my heart sing is hearing about the success others are having using it. Over the years I have suffered much ridicule for my way of looking at the market and my way of trading the market. I see it now as the path that was necessary in order to arrive at what is now PVSRA. All the flack I endured now seems a small price paid compared to the value received.

Helping others to succeed has been the goal of Master Sonicdeejay in starting this thread. His dedication to it, and his encouraging of others, including myself, is now bringing real fruit. The goal of the Sonic R. System thread to help traders become successful is becoming an undisputable reality.

If a thread is going to be #1 at Forex Factory, producing winning traders is the #1 claim to be #1 in accomplishing. I think the Sonic R. System thread is now doing that.

-tah
  • #51,963
  • Jun 26, 2013 10:05pm Jun 26, 2013 10:05pm
Quoting jmn5611
After watching the M1 timeframe for a bit, I am beginning to see the value of PVRSA. Essentially what tah is doing is watch the MM sell into price after it moves a certain level. So for example if price moves into a whole number, you will see volume increase past this point, but price is not rising, therefore they are selling into the liquidity. Then price may rise on lower volume into another key level of some sort, and the MM will sell into that liquidity as well. Each time the liquidity dries up, they hike the price a bit bring in some bulls to kill. Once the MM have their orders filled they will run the price down enuf to panic others into a cascade of selling. Is this the gist of it tah?
Quoting jmn5611
tah, did you see my post? Is my synopsis of what you are doing will PVRSA correct? If not, why not?
Yes, that is definately one of the patterns used by the MMs, perhaps the most fundamental and major pattern of all. And your description was crystal clear. The best yet.
  • #51,964
  • Edited 10:57pm Jun 26, 2013 10:26pm | Edited 10:57pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UCad Long Trade: Added long #3, Scout. M15 PVSRA shows US open MMs tanked the price to more heavily trade at the lows ahead of tomorrow's USD high impact releases, indicating they are bulls loading up on longs. I decided to add a third trade while price remained in the lower price area. Adjusted TP higher. If the MMs spike the price down this afternoon, or gradually work it down, either way, if they get it sufficiently lower lower half number area), I plan to add to this trade. {image}
UCad Long Trade:

Added longs #4 thru #6, Scouts. The asian session MMs opened with a drive down thru the 1/2SR and having done that, they continued stepping the price lower, exhausting liquidity in one area and then going lower for more, stopping out, triggering in....generating liquidity to get their long orders filled. The price drive is down, therefore they are buyers, not sellers. This is being done ahead of three upcoming high impact releases. Adjusted TP.
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  • #51,965
  • Edited 10:52pm Jun 26, 2013 10:39pm | Edited 10:52pm
Quoting jasakreatif
for anyone could tell me how to withdraw money from multiple hedge , cover one hole dug another hole , mislead all newbie with post only covered hole , but not to me , grow up man we need money ff dont pay us salary for thread
Glad you realize you have mislead newbies, and are repentant. Yes, you do need to grow up. Improving your english would help, too, especially if you mistakenly believe the bulk of the content of your postings is worthy of anyone understanding.
  • #51,966
  • Jun 26, 2013 10:56pm Jun 26, 2013 10:56pm
I have entered long the usd cad. The drive for liquidity has started I will continue to average until the news releases.
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  • #51,967
  • Jun 27, 2013 12:08am Jun 27, 2013 12:08am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} Yes, that is definately one of the patterns used by the MMs, perhaps the most fundamental and major pattern of all. And your description was crystal clear. The best yet.

Thank you for the reply. Is there a manual detailing the various patterns under way? I was under the impression that there was only one. I have to admit that your concept is fascinating. As a "classical" trader I have a real and entrenched aversion to fighting the tape. I am always afraid of the Tsunami. Seeing the volume action on the M1 was enlightening however and I look forward to learning more.

I am quite sure that most of the flak you get comes from old dogs( like myself) afraid to learn new tricks. So, I have to say thank you for continuing the journey.

I am sure you were present when the YEN spiked 1000 pips in just over a day. I would like to read your thoughts. From my own charts I can now see the market was basing for that move.

One last thing. I would like to know how the rdl/rdh and rwl/rwh is calculated. I was not aware that you coded the widely regarded market panel until recently, but I would always cut that feature off because I did not know how these values are calculated and I am not good enuf at reading code to find it for myself.

Thanks for your attention and efforts.

Joe
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #51,968
  • Jun 27, 2013 12:10am Jun 27, 2013 12:10am
Quoting worldfreedom
I have entered long the usd cad. The drive for liquidity has started I will continue to average until the news releases. {image}

You are getting yourself into a Martingale if you are doubling down every 100 pips. Not to dissuade you, but please be careful. I think tah uses fixed units to average in.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #51,969
  • Jun 27, 2013 12:21am Jun 27, 2013 12:21am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Thank you for the reply. Is there a manual detailing the various patterns under way? I was under the impression that there was only one. I have to admit that your concept is fascinating. As a "classical" trader I have a real and entrenched aversion to fighting the tape. I am always afraid of the Tsunami. Seeing the volume action on the M1 was enlightening however and I look forward to learning more. I am quite sure that most of the flak you get comes from old dogs( like myself) afraid to learn new tricks. So, I have to say thank you for...
Range Marks

Right out of the user notes......

4. Range High/Low Lines for the Day and Week-
You can display two horizontal lines, one for the computed range high target, and one for
the computed range low target. The range is based on the averaging period you select
(defaults: day=15, week=13). The special range averaging process for the Day range lines
skips any brief Sunday sessions of some brokers, which would drag the average down. The
Week range lines use the standard ATR formula since brief Sunday sessions do not much affect
the results.
A. Two conditions determine where range lines appear....
1. Condition #1 - the Day/Week range has not exceeded the computed average range.
* The RDH/RWH line is the computed average range distance above the session Low.
* The RDL/RWL line is the computed average range distance below the session high.
* The lines will move as new highs/lows are achieved during the session.
* This display shows how far price can move in either direction before exceeding
the computed average range.
2. Condition #2 - the Day/Week range has exceeded the computed average range.
* If price swings during the day/week TF cause the difference between the high
and the low to equal the computed range, the range lines lock into place.
* This display will clearly show any subsequent breakout of the range.
B. The purpose of the range lines is to provide a perspective on how far PA might move
during the trading day or week. This can be of some guidance in selecting where to
exit a trade. A swing trader might pay more attention to the RWH/RWL lines, and hold
a trade into oncoming days. However, a day trader looking for quick profits and
limited exposure to market price swings might pay more attention to the RDH/RDL lines.
  • #51,970
  • Jun 27, 2013 12:54am Jun 27, 2013 12:54am
Hi TAH & everyone

I'm new to the system. I'm reading the PVSRA but I don't know the MM/MMs means what? Anyone could explain please . Thank you so much. And the best time to trade still 1-4 am & 7-11 am EST?

Best.
  • #51,971
  • Jun 27, 2013 1:06am Jun 27, 2013 1:06am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UCad Long Trade: Added longs #4 thru #6, Scouts. The asian session MMs opened with a drive down thru the 1/2SR and having done that, they continued stepping the price lower, exhausting liquidity in one area and then going lower for more, stopping out, triggering in....generating liquidity to get their long orders filled. The price drive is down, therefore they are buyers, not sellers. This is being done ahead of three upcoming high impact releases. Adjusted TP. {image}
TAH
need your advice as I wrote few days ago looked to me that usdcad bearish the high activity in the top, 3/4 number etc
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  • #51,972
  • Jun 27, 2013 1:44am Jun 27, 2013 1:44am
HI
Traderathome this system is awesome i used it a long time back but i dint use it properly and now i am following only this system for past few days it is really awesome.
I have downloaded your latest setup and also PVSRA PDF i am just starting to understand can you guide from which post you recommend me to go through to have a clear view of system.
But traderathome u r doing a great job for newbies like me i really thank you for the efort u have taken i dont think everyone can do this thank u

aravindhfx
  • #51,973
  • Jun 27, 2013 2:00am Jun 27, 2013 2:00am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Just switch the chart TF once and it should reset ok. Let me know.
Hi TAH,

I tired to switch TF to M30 and H1 but still no luck. Is that problem with Terminal?

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  • #51,974
  • Jun 27, 2013 2:05am Jun 27, 2013 2:05am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Range Marks Right out of the user notes...... 4. Range High/Low Lines for the Day and Week- You can display two horizontal lines, one for the computed range high target, and one for the computed range low target. The range is based on the averaging period you select (defaults: day=15, week=13). The special range averaging process for the Day range lines skips any brief Sunday sessions of some brokers, which would drag the average down. The Week range lines use the standard ATR formula since brief Sunday sessions do not much affect the results....
User notes....gee why did I not think to read the USER notes! My gump moment of the week, at least I made all the way to Wednesday this week, lol.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #51,975
  • Jun 27, 2013 2:10am Jun 27, 2013 2:10am
Quoting meirk
{quote} TAH need your advice as I wrote few days ago looked to me that usdcad bearish the high activity in the top, 3/4 number etc {image}

M1 shows increasing volume on bottoms - they are pushing price down. They just hit 1.04250 level, HH in 5min...
Bulls in my opinion...
  • #51,976
  • Jun 27, 2013 2:20am Jun 27, 2013 2:20am
EU:

Starting to rebuild short position. This time with a better money management. Price is consolidating but as you can see in the image the volume indicates MM remains bears.
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To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #51,977
  • Jun 27, 2013 2:33am Jun 27, 2013 2:33am
Quoting Tymedu
EU: Starting to rebuild short position. This time with a better money management. Price is consolidating but as you can see in the image the volume indicates MM remains bears. {image}

Really?. Have you checked the M1 chart?. High volumes in lows below half number... What do you think?
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My mother language is Spanish, so, please, be patient with me.
  • #51,978
  • Jun 27, 2013 2:48am Jun 27, 2013 2:48am
Working on money management

Hi guys.

I want to explain you my changes in my money management because I think it's important for new guys. PVSRA is fantastic, awesome, and now we all are happy because prices moved where we predicted to. BUT we can't forget that many of us suffered a lot with the drawdown due our poor bank management. So I will try to explain here the changes I made.

Before, I traded with 0.5 minilots (0.05$ per pip) with a bankroll of 300-320$. If we divide, that is a 6500pips bankroll. Way to short for PVSRA. Last month I had a drawdown of 4400pips, which is around the 68% of my account. As you can see, that is insane. I want to clarify that this is not my main account, this one is just to learn and practice. But I love PVSRA trading with scouts and I don't want to change that method, so I had to adapt my entries for that. Fortunately I had luck and MMs ran for profit before my account was in 0$.

Now, I will trade with 0.2 minilots (0.02$ per pip) with an initial bankroll of 570$. That's a 28500pips bankroll. More than 4x times. With this money management, my biggest drawdown until today (4400 pips) would be the 15,5% of my account, acceptable.

My initial target from now on will be to achieve 8000pips per month. For me is a challenge, but still a realistic target. With this bank management I will have more freedom to add positions in several pairs having a huge room to drawdowns. My idea is to increase my lots once I have between 25.000 and 30.000 pips bankroll.

So, if I have right now 570$/0.02$ per pip = 28500pips. I will start to use 0.3 minilots once I have my money/0.03 = (25,000 - 30,000). That would be around 800$ of bankroll.

I hope this help you as well
Best,Tymedu.
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  • #51,979
  • Jun 27, 2013 2:56am Jun 27, 2013 2:56am
Quoting banteka
{quote} Really?. Have you checked the M1 chart?. High volumes in lows below half number... What do you think? {image}
I think you are right, but that happened AFTER my two first entries. So yes, price is consolidating and I'm starting to build short. To start doesn't mean I have to enter in the moment they run for profits (that is why PVSRA is cool). If I see a volume increase around 1.3050 area, I will add my 4th position.

And btw, don't focus only in 1m chart. Look M15 or M5 and you will see how the price is consolidating. And it didn't touch yet the 38.2 fibo of the previous drop.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #51,980
  • Jun 27, 2013 3:07am Jun 27, 2013 3:07am
Quoting Tymedu
Working on money management Hi guys. I want to explain you my changes in my money management because I think it's important for new guys. PVSRA is fantastic, awesome, and now we all are happy because prices moved where we predicted to. BUT we can't forget that many of us suffered a lot with the drawdown due our poor bank management. So I will try to explain here the changes I made. Before, I traded with 0.5 minilots (0.05$ per pip) with a bankroll of 300-320$. If we divide, that is a 6500pips bankroll. Way to short for PVSRA. Last month I had a...
Thanks Tymedu, very good, is much appreciated effort in sharing.
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