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  • #21,001
  • Jun 24, 2013 6:41am Jun 24, 2013 6:41am
Two more trades at LO.....first one stopped out at BE.....second one re-entered following the open of the 2nd candle after it went up and set the high of the London session and then moved back down.....TDI green already crossed red and was crossing yellow and the 50 line.....done for the day.
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  • #21,002
  • Jun 24, 2013 6:55am Jun 24, 2013 6:55am
Quoting Phx62
Two more trades at LO.....first one stopped out at BE.....second one re-entered following the open of the 2nd candle after it went up and set the high of the London session and then moved back down.....TDI green already crossed red and was crossing yellow and the 50 line.....done for the day. {image}
I think your first trade is at the Frankfurt open(7GMT), and your second trade was at London open(8GMT).
  • #21,003
  • Jun 24, 2013 7:33am Jun 24, 2013 7:33am
Quoting Phx62
Two more trades at LO.....first one stopped out at BE.....second one re-entered following the open of the 2nd candle after it went up and set the high of the London session and then moved back down.....TDI green already crossed red and was crossing yellow and the 50 line.....done for the day. {image}
Perfect trade!

Thanks for sharing!
  • #21,004
  • Jun 24, 2013 7:54am Jun 24, 2013 7:54am
WOW.
What's just happened on USDJPY H1?!
What was good buy signal on the beginning of the candle.
Now it just rewrite itself.
  • #21,005
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:02am Jun 24, 2013 8:02am
I agree with John. Look...

Once again, anyone please tell me how to deal with trades like this when I do my back test?
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  • #21,006
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:09am Jun 24, 2013 8:09am
Quoting Murzilka
I agree with John. Look... Once again, anyone please tell me how to deal with trades like this when I do my back test? {image}
Why would you buy there?

Look to your left.

I was waiting for a short entry as it was going up into that area.
  • #21,007
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:12am Jun 24, 2013 8:12am
Quoting fxtrade13
{quote} Why would you buy there?
because of the cross on the TDI at the beginning of the time period. Pure TDI trade
  • #21,008
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:23am Jun 24, 2013 8:23am
Quoting Murzilka
I agree with John. Look... Once again, anyone please tell me how to deal with trades like this when I do my back test? {image}

here is one good example where the TDI lags behind extremem price volatility....

when you trade purely base on TDI cross in all timeframes, there will be some trade setup shich will fail ... more such failures in lower TF but fewer on H4 and D above.

For this UJ example, you could have avoided this buy setup if you look at H4 .
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  • #21,009
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:25am Jun 24, 2013 8:25am
Quoting fxtrade13
{quote} Why would you buy there? Look to your left.
Look on H4 and D1.
It bullish trend.
  • #21,010
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:29am Jun 24, 2013 8:29am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} For this UJ example, you could have avoided this buy setup if you look at H4.
How?
It was nice blue candle before price drop.
No signal on tdi also.
  • #21,011
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:31am Jun 24, 2013 8:31am
Quoting Dabbeljoe
{quote} Yes, I think the synergy system looks good, but I want to stick to the TMS. I just thougt e few of the indicators from the synergy system could be useful.

Dabblejoe,

I like TMS 4H over Synergy Adv 2.0 too.
This one example below is for you.
TMS is more aggressive with entry using APB PA and TDI.... more trades and better entry levels. There will be some setups which will not run, but for those which runs, we must have a money management and trade management strategy will enable "let profit run" work for us.
Synergy is safe and conervative with many checks and filters to get entry into the market. Fewer trade setups but more higher probability winners.
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  • #21,012
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:33am Jun 24, 2013 8:33am
Quoting Murzilka
{quote} because of the cross on the TDI at the beginning of the time period. Pure TDI trade

Hi Murzilka,
Until emmanuel or Phx62 come and explain to you,I'll try to point out what was wrong with that "cross":

Basically,the cross is valid until that candle was closed(I think you know what candle I'm talking about). Emmanuel had mentioned this a lot in the past,something like "wait for that candle to close in ... minutes"... So if you want to take that trade,you must wait for that candle to close to confirm that cross is valid.

And if you look to your left,you will notice a pretty strong R line. And if I were you,I wouldn't take that trade. But everyone has their own logic and analysis,only the market can prove they are right or wrong. Keep back testing and you will be successful someday.

Good luck,
  • #21,013
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:34am Jun 24, 2013 8:34am
Quoting Murzilka
{quote} because of the cross on the TDI at the beginning of the time period. Pure TDI trade
I see. Big E said to look to your left for support & resistance, and to use our common sense.

I have cut my losing trades significantly by applying this. Taking trades based on TDI crosses alone didn't
get me any profits in the long run.
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  • #21,014
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:40am Jun 24, 2013 8:40am
Quoting Jonh
{quote} How? It was nice blue candle before price drop. No signal on tdi also.

that H1 candle is the 4th candle of the H4 candle...right? and that would close and make a red H4 candle ...
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  • #21,015
  • Jun 24, 2013 8:43am Jun 24, 2013 8:43am
Hello All!

Could anyone pls help me with weekly adr (weekly adr high and low)indicator.

Thanks All!
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  • #21,016
  • Jun 24, 2013 9:05am Jun 24, 2013 9:05am
let me summarize all of this, guys...

Sum: I open my chart at the beginning of new time period and see green crosses red on the TDI... When I see that I have to wait till the close of this new time period. And only then I can take the trade if other conditions are OK (2nd candle, nearness of S/R, Stoch and so on). Right?
  • #21,017
  • Jun 24, 2013 9:11am Jun 24, 2013 9:11am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} that H1 candle is the 4th candle of the H4 candle...right? and that would close and make a red H4 candle ...
So we cannot predict that kind of movement, but how you can minimize you loss then?
I see tdi cross on the beginning of the candle, I take a trade.
Then, 30 minutes later for example, I see green line goes back and there no tdi cross anymore, should I just close the trade?
  • #21,018
  • Jun 24, 2013 9:15am Jun 24, 2013 9:15am
Quoting Murzilka
let me summarize all of this, guys... Sum: I open my chart at the beginning of new time period and see green crosses red on the TDI... When I see that I have to wait till the close of this new time period. And only then I can take the trade if other conditions are OK (2nd candle, nearness of S/R, Stoch and so on). Right?
the PA using APB is important.
we need to see market strength and momentum for our entry so that price can move quickly after our entry and our initial SL won't be threathen by any possible price pullback. Timing is also important when we trade lower TF like H1. The hour before any market session clsoes or open is always subject to pullbacks.
Those who traded X-man S3 H1 have learned that we should be careful when NYO.

Now with London and NY overlap, wait and see when London closes, watch how price behaves the hour before and after London close.

Next thing is market strength and momentum:
Pick the APB carefully when we see Price Action and TDI crosses....
remember the 10 things I talked about ....
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  • #21,019
  • Jun 24, 2013 9:25am Jun 24, 2013 9:25am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Dabblejoe, I like TMS 4H over Synergy Adv 2.0 too. This one example below is for you. TMS is more aggressive with entry using APB PA and TDI.... more trades and better entry levels. There will be some setups which will not run, but for those which runs, we must have a money management and trade management strategy will enable "let profit run" work for us. Synergy is safe and conervative with many checks and filters to get entry into the market. Fewer trade setups but more higher probability winners. {image}
I think that's absolutely right, synergy is very careful and gives less set-ups. I compared the two strategies and i like TMS better too, I think.
  • #21,020
  • Jun 24, 2013 9:26am Jun 24, 2013 9:26am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} the PA using APB is important. we need to see market strength and momentum for our entry so that price can move quickly after our entry and our initial SL won't be threathen by any possible price pullback. {image}
So, I have to see good PA on APB... Got it.

But what about trigger itself? (I mean cross on TDI) Did I summarize it correctly?
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