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  • #51,541
  • Jun 19, 2013 2:36pm Jun 19, 2013 2:36pm
Going to add another short in EU once it touches one of the FIB levels in 15min chart. Ill stick with my plan : add scouts, wait for trend reversal, safely adding more shorts to trend from profits made from shorts. Its that simple !

Would post picture but im not using home computer :/

-rxJano
  • #51,542
  • Edited 3:06pm Jun 19, 2013 2:42pm | Edited 3:06pm
Quoting o0AxeL0o
Eu entering Long...(50 Lots)... {image}
Quoting o0AxeL0o
Hey guys i never failed yet with my predictions! But this time im sure i will, btw i wanna test something, this is the best way On Demo!
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} But dude... 50 lots? I know it's a demo account, but the purpose with a demo is to learn... No classic entry, no scout reasoning, not PVSRA analysis...
Demo Money IS Real Money!

You have entered a long trade with a Day bar that is bearish engulfing,.....big time bearish engulfing!

You are not "testing". You are gambling with the belief that making money in the market is easy. Furthermore, your trade size denotes greed to make money easily. And the worst of all this example you present to others is that you are already getting well entrenched into bad habits.

Demo money is real money, because what you do with it, you're going to do for real.

You are being totally unrealistic and just playing. This is no way to benefit from the opportunity to have a demo account and to take up the serious business of learning to trade. Believe me, you are going to suffer if and when you ever try trading for real. Just listen to yourself, "Hey guys i never failed yet with my predictions!" Predictions! See, right there is your nemesis #1. If you can't conquer that you are doomed before you even begin. Your nemesis #2 is that you apparently do not have the self-control and discipline to take up being a serious student of trading. You just want to go play in the sandbox.

You are developing bad habits. Bad habits are easy to obtain. Bad habits are a bitch to get rid of! This is going to cost you. And no serious person that takes up the task of learning to trade would ever play around like you are doing. Demo money is real money, and if you don't see it that way then you have no business here.

-tah
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  • #51,543
  • Jun 19, 2013 2:56pm Jun 19, 2013 2:56pm
TAH i mush apologise that i have doubt your PVSRA. You are true master. Keep up. All that who tanked your accounts, read on money management. This is a true super system, i would do my best to learn it the same way TAH did!
There is no spoon....
  • #51,544
  • Jun 19, 2013 3:06pm Jun 19, 2013 3:06pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} {quote} Demo Money IS Real Money! You have entered a long trade with a Day bar that is bearish engulfing,.....big time bearish engulfing! You are not "testing". You are gambling with the belief that making money in the market is easy. Furthermore, your trade size denotes greed to make money easily. And the worst of all this example you present to others is that you are already getting well entrenched into bad habits. Demo money is real money, because what you do with it, you're going to do for real. Believe me. {image}
Hey hey hey, respect my friend, i always respect you and deffend you so relax with me.

Im trying to get a little retraction, this is my test, of course is going to 1.28 but im testing because im doing some experiments, thats all and i told it, all of them with supports and resistances, nothing more. PA.

About greed to make money, yes i want to train my brain for large losses and gains, because i wanna feel what the big boys feels. Thats bad? BTW greed with a demo account? Tah... Thats dont have sense...

I know you develop PVSRA but that means that the rest cant do any more tests?

I dont know what i did you to see that hatred to me...
All my trades are in demo, dont do these things at home without permission!
  • #51,545
  • Jun 19, 2013 3:13pm Jun 19, 2013 3:13pm
Easy bro, we all love you in very special way.
There is no spoon....
  • #51,546
  • Jun 19, 2013 3:17pm Jun 19, 2013 3:17pm
Quoting Msis125125
Easy bro, we all love you in very special way.
xD. +1.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #51,547
  • Jun 19, 2013 3:23pm Jun 19, 2013 3:23pm
Trade EU Long Closed. And Win.
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All my trades are in demo, dont do these things at home without permission!
  • #51,548
  • Jun 19, 2013 3:26pm Jun 19, 2013 3:26pm
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} xD. +1.
xD +1? You should buy with your pips a new personality, you always repeat what tah says or msis. So please ignore me
All my trades are in demo, dont do these things at home without permission!
  • #51,549
  • Jun 19, 2013 3:47pm Jun 19, 2013 3:47pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UCad Long Trade: Closed all nine long trades for 720 pips gained. {image}
I admire greatly your willingness to put your live trades in front of the group as they are happening. Not only do you do that, but you offer advice in the face of an almost constant barage of insults, degrading comments about your trading, and downright rudeness. Excellent work -

Where is Markus now? Oh and Axel, you're an idiot - fake trading 50 lots will never get you anywhere. I actually believe demo trading is completely pointless for most and you are well illustrating that example. No way you would put real money on that trade at that size - maybe a micro lot, but even then I bet you would have hesitated.
Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
  • #51,550
  • Jun 19, 2013 3:50pm Jun 19, 2013 3:50pm
This message is for all:

Well, first of all, i came here to Sonic R and showed respect to all the people of this forum. I never said anything bad against anyone instead Markus to defend you Tah.

I like Sonic R classic with stop loss and im working on a system to do perfect entries, thats why i test that kind of things.

About PVSRA and Money management:

NOBODY TOLD ME THAT TRADE WITHOUT PVSRA AND MONEY MANAGEMENT WAS NOT ALLOWED!

Sincerely i believe in Sonic R but not in PVSRA and Money Management in this way.

If you do a perfect entry why you need Money Management?

PVSRA we cant determinate when the bulls or bears will go up or down? Thats something similar to, all that goes up goes down.

This week i saw Msis nervous, and lot of Sonic R system users. With a thiny stop loss and with a perfect entry he could be relax and use him money (during one week in the hands of the markets) to do more trades and win more money.

This is my point of view. Sorry and if Master Sonic wants that i leave this thread i will do without bad feellings.

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All my trades are in demo, dont do these things at home without permission!
  • #51,551
  • Edited 4:22pm Jun 19, 2013 3:59pm | Edited 4:22pm
Quoting o0AxeL0o
{quote} Hey hey hey, respect my friend, i always respect you and deffend you so relax with me. Im trying to get a little retraction, this is my test, of course is going to 1.28 but im testing because im doing some experiments, thats all and i told it, all of them with supports and resistances, nothing more. PA. About greed to make money, yes i want to train my brain for large losses and gains, because i wanna feel what the big boys feels. Thats bad? BTW greed with a demo account? Tah... Thats dont have sense... I know you develop PVSRA but that...
AxeL,

I don't hate you. I severly dislike the example you are setting here on this thread for others to dangerously follow. If you want to experiment with non-SonicR entries, or what-have-you, don't post them here! Such posts are only dangerous garbage. They don't improve this thread one iotta. And they are a poor example for others to see, and maybe mistakenly follow. You didn't "win" anything with that absurd "trade". All you did was reinforce a bad habit.

Listen, I have made this same mistake. So don't think I am singling you out for criticism. We all just need to keep in mind Sonic's purpose for this thread. And showing off wild "experimental" trades extremely removed from anything resembling the Sonic R. System is not what Sonic has in mind. The purpose Sonic has for this thread is to present and demonstrate the Sonic R. System, both Classic and Scout trades. Whether or not folks want to analyze using PVSRA is up to them. But, if you are not making an obvious Classic entry, then you'd better have good reason for making the entry, and state what that reason is! Just calling it an "experiment" is not good enough. There must be legitimate reasoning to it that does not violate the Sonic R. System, or it is nonsense that should not be posted.

Ok?

-tah
  • #51,552
  • Jun 19, 2013 4:01pm Jun 19, 2013 4:01pm
Quoting o0AxeL0o
{quote} xD +1? You should buy with your pips a new personality, you always repeat what tah says or msis. So please ignore me
I'm just saying the obvious. If you wanna feel like if you are trading for real money, act like that! You won't ever trade with 50 lots in a real account. You have to learn the money management because it is one of the most important things in trading (and trust me, I know what I'm talking about).

So, you decided to enter long in the middle of a bearish momentum without any reason with 50 lots. Not a classic entry, not even an argument with PVSRA to explain your scout. That is a bad example for newbies, and it's our duty to say that. And when we do something wrong, we must have responsability and do the same.

Yes, you entered long and you "close" it (I put the quotes because in your image the order is not closed) with 15 pips. Congrats bro, but the operation was a perfect example about how to do it bad. To enter a trade you need a solid argument, then you can be right or wrong, but you can't say "I didn't fail in my predictions yet".

Do you know this is really bad for you? You are cheating yourself because you think you understand the market and you don't. We all went through that phase at the beginning, it's normal. That is why we are here trying to explain it to you.

If you want to accept the top, perfect. If u don't... it will be ok as well.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #51,553
  • Jun 19, 2013 4:07pm Jun 19, 2013 4:07pm
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} I'm just saying the obvious. If you wanna feel like if you are trading for real money, act like that! You won't ever trade with 50 lots in a real account. You have to learn the money management because it is one of the most important things in trading (and trust me, I know what I'm talking about). So, you decided to enter long in the middle of a bearish momentum without any reason with 50 lots. Not a classic entry, not even an argument with PVSRA to explain your scout. That is a bad example for newbies, and it's our duty to say that. And...
Im not going to post anymore any trade and i was going to share my perfect entries trick but, wtf! I prefer keep it in secret when it will be finished

About understand the market, i think i understand it much better than you, i demostrate you more than once Did you remember that pic? When you said me no no no?

And if i dont understand the markets how can i convert a 10k account in to 18k account in 2 days?

This is not my place, thank you all the people, i will be here but not sharing any knowledge. Bye bye!
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  • #51,554
  • Jun 19, 2013 4:20pm Jun 19, 2013 4:20pm
Quoting o0AxeL0o
{quote} Im not going to post anymore any trade and i was going to share my perfect entries trick but, wtf! I prefer keep it in secret when it will be finished About understand the market, i think i understand it much better than, i demostrate you more than once Did you remember that pic? When you said me no no no? And if i dont understand the markets how can i convert a 10k account in to 18k account in 2 days? This is not my place, thank you all the people, i will be here but not sharing any knowledge. Bye bye! {image}
Buddy I'm really trying to help you, for real.

Nobody can win 80% in 2 days without being retarded. You are trading in a demo account with 10,25 and 50 lots orders. Your bankroll management is just terrible and the worst thing is you can't even see that. I'm not flaming you, I really want to help you because we all see you are doing terrible. Just try to ask yourself this questions:

  1. What is the % of your account you risked in your trades?
  2. Why do you enter the market right there?
  3. What is your R:R in your trades?

Just think, because we are trying to help you. And your answer is "I was about to share my trick (???) but I won't". I'm not an expert as other people here, I feel like a newbie and I make mistakes. But trust me, you don't understand the market, you don't know what are you doing and I really hope you really learn and study a lot before you go into a real account. Repeat, I just want to help you because you are in a phase we all passed through, that false confidence thinking you are the king.

To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #51,555
  • Edited 5:18pm Jun 19, 2013 4:25pm | Edited 5:18pm
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Buddy I'm really trying to help you, for real. Nobody can win 80% in 2 days without being retarded. You are trading in a demo account with 10,25 and 50 lots orders. Your bankroll management is just terrible and the worst thing is you can't even see that. I'm not flaming you, I really want to help you because we all see you are doing terrible. Just try to ask yourself this questions: What is the % of your account you risked in your trades? Why do you enter the market right there? What is your R:R in your trades? Just think, because we are...
Buddy you really try first to help yourself, believe me!

Nobody can be stay in front the computer losing pips ( -3500 or more ) and continue losing! without being retarded...

Can you convert 10k into 18k? Using only 1 - 5 lot trades?.

My best ratio without losing trades is 1:36 ratio. When i trade serious without experiments.

- Why do you enter the market right there? Im not going to say you, you are the expert I will keep my experiments in a safe place.
All my trades are in demo, dont do these things at home without permission!
  • #51,556
  • Jun 19, 2013 4:44pm Jun 19, 2013 4:44pm
Quoting jasakreatif
london always pump back my entry , but i think its a good place to jump {image}
howdy... this trade make me wake in 4 am in morning.

my tp to tight

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  • #51,557
  • Jun 19, 2013 5:27pm Jun 19, 2013 5:27pm
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} I just want to help you because you are in a phase we all passed through, that false confidence thinking you are the king.
Im not the king, you think that you are the king saying me how to trade, and the results says that you dont have too much idea.

Im not the king because i play with stop loss, and i dont try to be a professor of anything.

I only share my experiences in LIVE, something that lot of people dont do. And when i share my experiences you see that i didnt fail yet.

Who was the first one that predict 1.34? Basic in my own analysis and my own way of view the charts.

Tymedu i know that you born to be a lamp, but not me. And you must respect that.

The phase of false confidence was happend about 1 month ago. Now im in the phase of experimenting and build my own style.

I would like to help you saying that you should practicing in demo. In my level i dont feel ready to real money so in yours...

I use the head for all my trades and my ego in a box. Take care.
All my trades are in demo, dont do these things at home without permission!
  • #51,558
  • Jun 19, 2013 5:56pm Jun 19, 2013 5:56pm
follow the trend

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  • #51,559
  • Jun 19, 2013 6:49pm Jun 19, 2013 6:49pm
Quoting Msis125125
EU BEAR, Asia took small entry at the whole number and got very nice price for they shorts. I have added 22 scout. I think this is a culmination. Asian market is very well informed. This is a showdown. 1.28 here i come. {image} {image}
Told cha!
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There is no spoon....
  • #51,560
  • Edited 7:22pm Jun 19, 2013 6:53pm | Edited 7:22pm
AxeL,

On this thread what matters most is that everyone is sincerely interested in learning and improving their execution of the Sonic R. System Classic and Scout trades. All posts should be consistent with this.

I hammer against those that bring in unwanted additional indicators, that do not use our template, and that post trades based on a different system. I do so out of regard for all newbies and oldies alike that are sincere about the Sonic R. System. Nothing else has any place here. You are not the only one I have had to speak to about such matters, so don't think I am picking on you.

I do hope you are mature enough to understand that.

As for comments made to you regarding anything else, they are made in the spirit of helping you. You decide if to be humble and accept, or to be arrogant and refuse. No one has ever had, nor ever will have the "perfect entry" trick or system. From the very start you have posted in a flamboyant way. Flamboyant persons tend to be arrogant persons. And pride and arrogance come before the fall.

All we ask of you is that should you post a trade, demo or live makes no difference so far as demonstrating the Sonic R. System, that it be in full accord with Classic and Scout trades, and with full reasons supplied for Scout trades. What we ask is not too much to ask of any Sonicer here. And it is not too much to expect from any Sonicer, either.

AxeL, you continue to be welcome here, as a Sonicer. This is a great place to learn to trade, to grow more proficient as a trader. It is a great place because there is a shared respect for Sonic and for the Sonic R. System, "All for one, and one for all!" so to speak. If you try harder, you will fit in. If you find you are more interested in another brand of trading and move away, there will be no hard feelings.

-tah
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