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  • #51,421
  • Jun 18, 2013 6:16pm Jun 18, 2013 6:16pm
AUD JPY I see serious BULL activity. PVRSA shows that MM drove price to the whole number 90. and started to trade heavily. PVRSA BULL. Looking for classics to get into to confirm.
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  • #51,422
  • Jun 18, 2013 6:22pm Jun 18, 2013 6:22pm
GBP JPY i see bull due to PVRSA shows heavy volume with activity at 149. Driving price down moving price sideways. meaning loading up for some LONGS. PVRSA - BULL. Waiting for Classic to confirm.
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  • #51,423
  • Jun 18, 2013 6:30pm Jun 18, 2013 6:30pm
TAH do you have any annotations to my PVRSA?
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  • #51,424
  • Jun 18, 2013 6:34pm Jun 18, 2013 6:34pm
Quoting Msis125125
Thanx man! I really need that short. I appreciate that you posted it replying to my post.
Msis sincerely if you can wait 1.345 do it, the pump/dump is going to be drastical and could touch 1.345 at Max.
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  • #51,425
  • Edited 6:54pm Jun 18, 2013 6:34pm | Edited 6:54pm
Quoting Msis125125
AUD JPY I see serious BULL activity. PVRSA shows that MM drove price to the whole number 90. and started to trade heavily. PVRSA BULL. Looking for classics to get into to confirm. {image} {image}
Quoting Msis125125
GBP JPY i see bull due to PVRSA shows heavy volume with activity at 149. Driving price down moving price sideways. meaning loading up for some LONGS. PVRSA - BULL. Waiting for Classic to confirm. {image}
PVSRA, AJ: Bulls or Bears?

False analysis conditions,.....in the new Asian session you are using yesterday's M15 analysis after bears pulled up price to reset it higher for more shorting. Come down to the M1 in the Asian session and start to see what "newer" indications might present themselves. It is good to analyze on multiple TFs, but surely you have to realize that yesterday prices did not continuously move in same direction. So are the MMs bulls or bears? Look to new analysis to see what it begins to indicate.

Remember, the MMs have control of the price. They have the power of money, lots of it! So, if they are bulls and the price gets too high, they drive it lower to resume building longs. If they are bears and the price gets too low, they drive it higher to resume building shorts. The volume they apply to get the price to stop and reverse can look like "stopping" volume (as in a genuine reversal), but it can actually be just "stop the rise" or "stop the drop" volume so the MMs can reset prices back where they prefer them for continued building.

In this case, price has been ranging and after a move down the MMs stopped the drop and moved the price back up in the range. Ranging is an opportunity for MMs to build. It gets price going both ways so the MMs can be stopping out, or triggering in, whichever side they need in order to have the liquidity to get their own orders filled. Here, it looks like that last move up yesterday was just back up to mid-range to reset the price higher to resume shorting at better prices.
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  • #51,426
  • Jun 18, 2013 6:39pm Jun 18, 2013 6:39pm
Quoting o0AxeL0o
{quote} Msis sincerely if you can wait 1.345 do it, the pump/dump is going to be drastical and could touch 1.345 at Max.
What makes you think it will get to 1.345?
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  • #51,427
  • Jun 18, 2013 6:40pm Jun 18, 2013 6:40pm
Shorting with the EUR/USD along with the bank.
http://www.efxnews.com/story/19311/a...-targeting-128
  • #51,428
  • Jun 18, 2013 6:43pm Jun 18, 2013 6:43pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} PVSRA, AJ: Bulls or Bears? False analysis conditions,.....in the new Asian session you are using yesterday's M15 analysis after bears pulled up price to reset it higher for more shorting. Come down to the M1 in the Asian session and start to see what "newer" indications might present themselves. It is good to analyze on multiple TFs, but surely you have to realize that yesterday prices did not continuously move in same direction. So are the MMs bulls or bears? Look to new analysis to see what it begins to indicate. {image} {image}...
90.6 is the thing i haven't see. Bear. On both, AUD 90.6 and GBP JPY - 149.40

Why i suck at PVRSA?
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  • #51,429
  • Jun 18, 2013 6:58pm Jun 18, 2013 6:58pm
EUR/USD is starting to piss me off....screw the bankers to hell.
  • #51,430
  • Jun 18, 2013 7:10pm Jun 18, 2013 7:10pm
Quoting o0AxeL0o
{quote} Msis sincerely if you can wait 1.345 do it, the pump/dump is going to be drastical and could touch 1.345 at Max.
Chart picture? Analysis? Any basis at all? Sonic's #1 rule of the thread, "No pic, no post!" You keep violating this and promising to stop violating this. What gives?
  • #51,431
  • Edited 7:31pm Jun 18, 2013 7:19pm | Edited 7:31pm
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} 90.6 is the thing i haven't see. Bear. On both, AUD 90.6 and GBP JPY - 149.40 Why i suck at PVRSA?
PVSRA is an Art

The MMs whip prices around to screw others out of their trades. Not continuously, but when they are sure a lot of positions have been taken, then they become more tempted to manipulate prices to screw others out of their trades, capture that liquidity to get their own orders filled. And not just screwing others out of trades, but also triggering into the market "wrong side" pending orders too. More liquidity for the MMs to take the opposite side of those "wrong side" triggered orders!

So, if the MMs push price up, they are bears. If they push price down, they are bulls. The key is to discern when they are intentionally "pushing" the price in order to build their postions, in order to create liquiidity, in order to stop out trades of one side and trigger in trades of the other side and create liquidity.

This is an art. I believe I have said this before. Viewing PA with the mind of a thief that is out to steal from others, and then looking at price, volume and S&R for the clues as to which way the thief is moving in order to "steal" from others. PVSRA is objective relative to PA and volume around key S&R, but PVSRA is also subjective relative to PA in a broader sense and with regards to how much time others have been given to lock themselves into trades that the MMs can knock them out of.

PVSRA is not always cut and dried. When there are no clear indications, or there are conflicting indications, it is not time to presume nor trade. However, when PA is such that PVSRA gives clear indications, it is cut and dried, and no real-time market analysis is superior to PVSRA in revealing if the MMs are bulls or bears.


Hope this helps,
-tah
  • #51,432
  • Jun 18, 2013 7:19pm Jun 18, 2013 7:19pm
Thanks Sonic ,thanks Tah

This my first post hope it will be constructive . I have been following the tread for few weeks and this my points:

-There is no need to replay to all silly or stupid comments.just make the tread longer and confusing.
- The newbies like my self need to read and reread and demo test before putting there hard earnings on the table for the sharks (MM)
-The newbies and any one following this tread need to know that PVSRA IS A PROJECT IS WORK IN PROGRESS. .
Hope every one get this message and I suggest to prof tah to highlight this on the first page ;I m sure he did say this many times in this tread but many didn't get it either they are lazy to read or stupid to test a project in there real accounts until they don't know what's the meaning of a the word project.
-The classic sonic system has proven to be reliable so please all newbies need to master it first and use with proper mmgt and to learn and test PVSRA.

Drown-down
MMs provide liquidity to the market so they have to open positions up and down.As retailer traders we don't have to marry our self to a position to be field so i have been testing pending orders after prof tah open his positions just below HH or LL depending ON MM if they bears or bulls see pic in the attachment some off my pending order still waiting to be filled this way i avoid DD but let go some pips and is stress free.Need more testing before posting more trades.This set up saved me the hassle of last week movement in EurUsd see attachment.Please prof TAH give my observation a go in your testing thank you in advance.
Hope this observation will help in the developing of the PVSRA .
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  • #51,433
  • Jun 18, 2013 7:24pm Jun 18, 2013 7:24pm
Right gotta steal others money, right gotta be bad. Ok let me try some more!
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  • #51,434
  • Jun 18, 2013 7:27pm Jun 18, 2013 7:27pm
EJ - PVRSA increased trading at whole number 128. PVRSA is Bear?
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  • #51,435
  • Jun 18, 2013 7:34pm Jun 18, 2013 7:34pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Chart picture? Analysis? Any basis at all? Sonic's #1 rule of the thread, "No pic, no post!" You keep violating this and promising to stop violating this. What gives?
Relax Tah! I'm always defending you in your boat!

This is why i say that, be careful.
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  • #51,436
  • Jun 18, 2013 7:37pm Jun 18, 2013 7:37pm
Quoting rxJano
EUR/USD is starting to piss me off....screw the bankers to hell.
PVSRA, EU: Bulls or Bears?

The Asian session MMs are, for the first time, getting their opportunity at these highs. Bear MMs pump prices to add shorts higher. We should expect nothing less from the Asian session MMs if they remain bears as this new day gets underway.
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  • #51,437
  • Jun 18, 2013 7:39pm Jun 18, 2013 7:39pm
AXEL on D1 EU as well on resistance. Why 1.345 is better then now?
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  • #51,438
  • Jun 18, 2013 7:47pm Jun 18, 2013 7:47pm
Quoting Msis125125
AXEL on D1 EU as well on resistance. Why 1.345 is better then now?
Didnt said that is better than now, i only said you that if it goes up again, dont cut your head

I didnt saw yet any bearish engulfing, shooting star or dark cloud cover...

Of course it could happend now, 1.34 is a big psyco level but it could reach 1.345 fast to get impulse to push down.

It have sense or not?
All my trades are in demo, dont do these things at home without permission!
  • #51,439
  • Edited 7:59pm Jun 18, 2013 7:48pm | Edited 7:59pm
Quoting Msis125125
EJ - PVRSA increased trading at whole number 128. PVRSA is Bear? {image}
Yep.

I have a UJ long trade running on the basis the USD might get some strength this week. If UJ goes up, then other YEN pairs might also rise a bit, but overall the trend is down. The MMs might be planning on when they hike UJ, that traders will also long the other YEN pairs and that will give the MMs liquidity to add more shorts as the price rises. The key here with EJ is that PVSRA indicates the MMs are bears. We just don't know how high they might take the price while rebuilding their short positions.
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  • #51,440
  • Jun 18, 2013 7:49pm Jun 18, 2013 7:49pm
I agree with you, but my margin doesn't.
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