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  • #20,721
  • Jun 17, 2013 4:08am Jun 17, 2013 4:08am
Quoting emmanuel7788
AJ 17 Jun ... hitting 2R and looking good to hit 100 day ADR... {image}
well, finally it hit the 100 day ADR and pullback ...
did this pari exhausted the day average traded range before London session starts?
we shall see how market will play this when Tokyo close.
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  • #20,722
  • Edited 6:53am Jun 17, 2013 4:52am | Edited 6:53am
Hey, everybody.

Could someone explain to me please what's the difference between flat check mark exit and hook over exit? I don't quite understand it...

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I better put it this way -
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  • #20,723
  • Jun 17, 2013 6:09am Jun 17, 2013 6:09am
Quoting Murzilka
Hey, everybody. Could someone explain to me please what's the difference between flat exit and hook over exit? I don't quite understand it... Thanks in advance. P.S. I better put it this way - {image}
you need to read both the Price Action using the APB and the TDI Price Line green line to get a better understanding of what these means.
Do Not read the TDI alone without looking at the APB PA....

the 'check mark' is a bounce type senario and is use as a CONTINUATION setup in a established Trend. This is how I use Inside Bar to spot the consolidation and trade the breakout into the primary trend. The inverse 'check mark' TDI PL Green below TSL Red is true for sell continuation setup.

see pdf EU H4 example
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  • #20,724
  • Edited 6:58am Jun 17, 2013 6:47am | Edited 6:58am
emmanuel7788, I just don't get the difference between type of exits in post 128 and type of exits in post 133.
Could you please explain it to me?

And by the way I mean "check mark" vs "hook over" in my later post.
Sorry for misleading.
  • #20,725
  • Jun 17, 2013 6:52am Jun 17, 2013 6:52am
Quoting Murzilka
emmanuel7788, I just don't get the difference between type of exits in post 128 and type of exits in post 133. Could you please explain it to me?
Please post those charts again here...thanks!
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  • #20,726
  • Jun 17, 2013 7:09am Jun 17, 2013 7:09am
Here they are
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  • #20,727
  • Jun 17, 2013 7:09am Jun 17, 2013 7:09am
Did you take any trade today emmanuel? Seem like the market is waiting for the G8 meetings to happen and then may be we will see some movement in the market. Just my thought though. I need some of your idea in this matter.
  • #20,728
  • Jun 17, 2013 7:42am Jun 17, 2013 7:42am
Quoting Dabbeljoe
I'll be watching them Greenb! :-) Emmanuel, thanks for the pdf, that's exactly what I was looking for! Have to go now, when I've read it later today, I'll come back for step 2.
Hey Emmanuel, seems everybody is pulling your jacket! I'm pulling too! :-)

I read the pdf twice, the Best of Big E, and I made my plan. I'm gonna trade this for a couple of weeks, just the majors on the H4 and daily, but not with all the indicators mentiioned here. I'll use the set-up of Big E for now, just the stochastics and TDI with the HA candles (Synergy APB), the EMA200/100 and my own common sense.

Now you promised me step 2! :nerd:

Sorry, forgot the magic word: Pleeaase!!??!
  • #20,729
  • Jun 17, 2013 7:48am Jun 17, 2013 7:48am
Another trade for today.. Buy GU @ 1.5730.. Still ON..

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  • #20,730
  • Edited 8:17am Jun 17, 2013 7:57am | Edited 8:17am
Quoting atuque1
Another trade for today.. Buy GU @ 1.5730.. Still ON.. {image}
I bought it too on 1.5728, but now I think I was buying into resistance and thats not good.
  • #20,731
  • Jun 17, 2013 7:59am Jun 17, 2013 7:59am
Quoting Murzilka
Here they are {image} {image}
the APB obscure the real price open, high , low and close...
look closely at the real price open and close, you will tell the difference between TDI rolover /hook and the check markt type of PA.
The check mark are '/\' or '\/' of sharp price movements, .. the roll over are small candles with narrow opne/close prices.
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  • #20,732
  • Jun 17, 2013 8:07am Jun 17, 2013 8:07am
Quoting frenetic
Did you take any trade today emmanuel? Seem like the market is waiting for the G8 meetings to happen and then may be we will see some movement in the market. Just my thought though. I need some of your idea in this matter.
It is Monday type of market ... and after last week's markets movements, this week start cautious and is very narrow range and no calendar events to move the marrket. Be patient when tradingg 4H.
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  • #20,733
  • Jun 17, 2013 8:16am Jun 17, 2013 8:16am
thanks, emmanuel7788, now it more clearer to me... so roll over is more like two bar pattern? I mean that I don't have to get out of the trade right away when I see first bar of roll over, right? Whereas when I see check mark I could safely get out and then look for re-enter on bounce? Something like that?
  • #20,734
  • Jun 17, 2013 8:32am Jun 17, 2013 8:32am
Quoting Murzilka
thanks, emmanuel7788, now it more clearer to me... so roll over is more like two bar pattern? I mean that I don't have to get out of the trade right away when I see first bar of roll over, right? Whereas when I see check mark I could safely get out and then look for re-enter on bounce? Something like that?

I don't manage my trades in such a way seeing only H4 candles. I look at D too and the reason why I took the 4H trade in the first place and with expectation of the weekly range. In a swing trade lasting 2 to 4 days, there will be situation where we see very small H4 candles during certain period hours and price pullback is common when market session closes and transition to the next market session. Just look at London close hour, market most often pullback.
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  • #20,735
  • Jun 17, 2013 8:36am Jun 17, 2013 8:36am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} I don't manage my trades in such a way seeing only H4 candles.
I guess it's more appropriate for H1.
  • #20,736
  • Jun 17, 2013 8:36am Jun 17, 2013 8:36am
Quoting Dabbeljoe
{quote} Hey Emmanuel, seems everybody is pulling your jacket! I'm pulling too! :-) I read the pdf twice, the Best of Big E, and I made my plan. I'm gonna trade this for a couple of weeks, just the majors on the H4 and daily, but not with all the indicators mentiioned here. I'll use the set-up of Big E for now, just the stochastics and TDI with the HA candles (Synergy APB), the EMA200/100 and my own common sense. Now you promised me step 2! :nerd: Sorry, forgot the magic word: Pleeaase!!??!

you mean to start live trading soon?

what about back-testing? what have you learned from back-testing and have you incorporated into your trading plan?
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  • #20,737
  • Jun 17, 2013 8:50am Jun 17, 2013 8:50am
Quoting emmanuel7788
GU BEEB example with TMS H1 {image}

hi Emmanuel can you share this templare because when i put the candle of "first place" i see this and it's confusing and not clear

for study Pa pattern etc
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  • #20,738
  • Jun 17, 2013 9:04am Jun 17, 2013 9:04am
Quoting pinux76
{quote} hi Emmanuel can you share this templare because when i put the candle of "first place" i see this and it's confusing and not clear for study Pa pattern etc {image}

you have the real price candlestick in the foreground on top of the APB on your chart setup, so what is confusing you?

your chart looks clear and you see the actual price candlesticks..
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  • #20,739
  • Jun 17, 2013 9:10am Jun 17, 2013 9:10am
Quoting Murzilka
{quote} I guess it's more appropriate for H1.
You got it right...
The best stop for BUY GU should be at 1.5746 (3pips below 1.5749)
I changed my TP at 1.5770 (wrong turn)...
  • #20,740
  • Jun 17, 2013 9:33am Jun 17, 2013 9:33am
Quoting pinux76
{quote} hi Emmanuel can you share this templare because when i put the candle of "first place" i see this and it's confusing and not clear for study Pa pattern etc {image}
If you put your chart on linechart, then go to charts-->properties, set your line graph to white, then you'll have clear synergy candles.
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