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  • #51,241
  • Jun 15, 2013 12:00pm Jun 15, 2013 12:00pm
hi worldfreedom,
man I ask you about an indicator to named it or to uploaded it but you never replay, so plz if you can , I posted a picture in these link
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...47#post6733847
thanks bro
  • #51,242
  • Jun 15, 2013 12:58pm Jun 15, 2013 12:58pm
It's here:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=5707688

Quoting cori
hi worldfreedom, man I ask you about an indicator to named it or to uploaded it but you never replay, so plz if you can , I posted a picture in these link http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...47#post6733847 thanks bro
  • #51,243
  • Jun 15, 2013 2:40pm Jun 15, 2013 2:40pm
Quoting anas hani
from where someone can start reading and understand this system
Hi anas hani,

did you even read at least first post? If not, go back and you will find all what you looked for
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #51,244
  • Jun 15, 2013 3:12pm Jun 15, 2013 3:12pm
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA Results for 1st Eleven Weeks The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see. Week ending 04/05 1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/12 1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/19 2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips per...
How many pips you have in drawdown right now? I have 3k!
There is no spoon....
  • #51,245
  • Jun 15, 2013 5:43pm Jun 15, 2013 5:43pm
Quoting ForexTeam
It's here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=5707688 {quote}


thank you very much
  • #51,246
  • Jun 15, 2013 7:20pm Jun 15, 2013 7:20pm
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} How many pips you have in drawdown right now? I have 3k!
Less than 4x yours. Certainly not my largest score, though.
  • #51,247
  • Jun 15, 2013 9:41pm Jun 15, 2013 9:41pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Less than 4x yours. Certainly not my largest score, though.

Ready to take any laugh, judement or critisizing of what I say below.



It's not only the close trade or gained pips should be post everyweek, more important it's the downdrawn.

The one came here to trade PVSRA should know it could bring 1000 or 2000 pips a week in very very small lots.

Meanwhile, they may have to take 12000pips downdraw of the small lots in the same time.




Again, I don't trade PVSRA, and not here to judge it, but for the people start to learn and use it.

The downdraw is much more important than the gain for they to know, to have a whole point of view.

This is very serious.
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  • #51,248
  • Jun 15, 2013 9:50pm Jun 15, 2013 9:50pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Less than 4x yours. Certainly not my largest score, though.

Yep, actual around 11.000 pips DD and 15.000, 20.000 or much more pips DD will not be unusual trading these style without managing the losses (IMHO the mental stopps are for the trash). These floating DD and the margin call risk is the price to pay for the great reward because forex trading offers no free lunch.
  • #51,249
  • Jun 15, 2013 11:19pm Jun 15, 2013 11:19pm
Draw Downs; DD are inevitable to the trading, (if one do not like the heat, stay out of the kitchen)...
The question is who well a trader manage the draw down to the possible minimum while reaping his possible maximum rewards...

I had given the hard times to Ser TAH regarding the potential DD of PVSRA... But he has proven to me time and time again that his approach has the careful consideration of DD and good chart reading,... So, I am ok with the way he trades and I am even say it is "the way to trade" as that is how the smart money trades.

So, here is the pointers for you.

1. Do not trades with small and tight SL... It significantly lower chance of winning.
2. Do not trade big lots in one time, split them into small parts so that you can have nice wide R:R,
3. Do not just look at the one or two PA of the lower TF (such as M1,M15)... Higher the TF, The more reliable price action is.
4. Trend is your friend.


Sonic
  • #51,250
  • Jun 16, 2013 2:06am Jun 16, 2013 2:06am
last month i drop PA for you
Quoting jasakreatif
{quote} {image} i drop some stuff for you , i draw this my self so please worth it
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now i drop, money management skecth will not explain more , use your brain .

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  • #51,251
  • Jun 16, 2013 3:13am Jun 16, 2013 3:13am
Hmm...

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Sonic
  • #51,252
  • Jun 16, 2013 3:52am Jun 16, 2013 3:52am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Draw Downs; DD are inevitable to the trading, (if one do not like the heat, stay out of the kitchen)... The question is who well a trader manage the draw down to the possible minimum while reaping his possible maximum rewards... I had given the hard times to Ser TAH regarding the potential DD of PVSRA... But he has proven to me time and time again that his approach has the careful consideration of DD and good chart reading,... So, I am ok with the way he trades and I am even say it is "the way to trade" as that is how the smart money trades. So,...
sonicdeejay, this is the first time I have felt like you have "gotten on board" with TAH's PVSRA trading.

DD is important, certainly, but it is a relative thing that must be considered by the invidual trader. There
is no way to lump everyone into one pile when you speak of DD. When you have a trade that may
run for days and days, it isn't uncommon at all for the DD to reach large numbers. The important
elements to consider are: #1 - is the reason for the trade still confirmed, and #2 - is my account
prepared to handle the enevitable DD that accompanies such a long-term trade.

Entering some trades without the proper account balance would be the same thing as setting a
hard stop loss that is too close. The resulting margin call is basically the same as a stop loss.

You can't trade PVSRA with blinders on, and TAH doesn't, and would never, do such a thing. He, and only he,
knows what his account can handle in terms of DD tolerence. That is something we should all remember.

A DD of 100 might be the limit for some, while a DD of 100,000 might be tolerable for someone else.

  • #51,253
  • Edited 7:58am Jun 16, 2013 7:16am | Edited 7:58am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Less than 4x yours. Certainly not my largest score, though.
Why not post an overview of open positions like the results overview and or max DD during the week for every pair traded? That would complete the PVRSA 'performance'.
Posting Demo charts, mirroring some of them live.
  • #51,254
  • Edited 11:00am Jun 16, 2013 7:22am | Edited 11:00am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Draw Downs; DD are inevitable to the trading, (if one do not like the heat, stay out of the kitchen)... The question is who well a trader manage the draw down to the possible minimum while reaping his possible maximum rewards... I had given the hard times to Ser TAH regarding the potential DD of PVSRA... But he has proven to me time and time again that his approach has the careful consideration of DD and good chart reading,... So, I am ok with the way he trades and I am even say it is "the way to trade" as that is how the smart money trades. So,...
Sir, I got you point, but don't get me wrong. OK?


Nobody says to avoid the Draw Down which will definitely be created by a certain system, and it's so far a working system.

The whole point is: seems to me it's very nessisary to emphasize the possible DrawDown for everyone here, to show them how big the WAVE will come, and it definitely will come time to time.


WHAT'S MORE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT WILL COME.


Not only the happy harvest pips them should be see every week. Also the SHARK and STROM, the happened danger situation.


YES, 2000PIPS gain this week, but you should know, for this result, It took 10000PIPS DrawDown during the week, but I handle it with good management and stategy, maybe this 10000Draw Down will become another 2000PIPS income next week.



That's the whole picture, and message for the PVSRA learner should be get, not only the Happy result everyweek, because they can easily get into the wrong message and fancy, ignore the considerable danger on the way.



AGAIN, I don't trade PVSRA, and I don't deny it. But I really hate to see people burn their account.
  • #51,255
  • Jun 16, 2013 7:26am Jun 16, 2013 7:26am
Quoting keroro0o0o
{quote} The drummer.....ooooh boy.

Different guys.. different tastes..


For me ,.. the lead guitarist... Mami..


Sonic
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  • #51,256
  • Edited 11:03am Jun 16, 2013 8:04am | Edited 11:03am
Let me make myself more clear.



There is no purpose of argument, we don't know each other but basially in the same boat, try to make money for better life and avoid get hurt frome the fu c--king MM.



Just like any other business, assume we made 1000usd for a week, but take 2000usd possible risk during the phase, then when we provide the oppurtunity for others to join us as a partner. It's better to mention, and make it very clear of the possible 2000usd risk or not?



The partner should and will pay more attention to the number of 10000 profit, or 2000 possible risk ?



ENGLISH is really not my mother language. Hope I make myself clear and don't get any insult this time.

GOOD LUCK.
  • #51,257
  • Jun 16, 2013 8:34am Jun 16, 2013 8:34am
What's




up with





the large





spaces between texts?
cut losses short, let profits run.
  • #51,258
  • Jun 16, 2013 9:03am Jun 16, 2013 9:03am
Hi Prof TAH,

I'm just practicing to read charts. The chart below has the following signs:

1. Increasing volume of trades with decreasing price (does it mean MM are bears? Since they are preferring lower price)
2. Increasing volume when price hit the whole number (1.3300 level. Isn't it a bull sign?)
3. Looking at the overall price candle sticks it seems that the MM are 'pressing' the price down. ( so its a bear sign?)

These are my analysis after all the reading. I know I'm not good yet. But it seems that the chart seems to give me a mix of bulls and bears signals. Please correct me if my analysis above is wrong.

Thanks
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  • #51,259
  • Jun 16, 2013 9:46am Jun 16, 2013 9:46am
Quoting daniel9
Let me make myself more clear. There is no purpose of argument, we don't know each other but basially in the same boat, try to make money for better life and avoid get hurt frome the fu c--king MM. Just like any other business, assume we made 1000usd for a week, but take 3000usd possible risk during the phase, then when we provide the oppurtunity for others to join us as a partner. It's better to mention, and make it very clear of the possible 3000usd risk or not? The partner should and will pay more attention to the number of 10000 profit, or 2000...
Burning an account or two is an inevitable phenomena. Every successful forex trader has to have that kind of experience. So everything is cool. No need to worry. Although it's good that you care.
  • #51,260
  • Jun 16, 2013 10:16am Jun 16, 2013 10:16am
Hi master Sonic,

I have read almost of first 100++ pages, and step up to moment. And I don't see cfp85 post or active anymore; do you know where he is now ? I learned very well from his post and trade settup, I miss him .

P/s: if you can't understand what I meant, I'm sorry about my english ^^.
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