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  • #806,461
  • Jun 9, 2013 9:22pm Jun 9, 2013 9:22pm
Quoting tsujigiri
{quote} I thought rather than just the figures it was this kind of thing: China Export Growth Plummets Amid Fake-Shipment Crackdown
Yes, that does not look good. China has been suspected of faking numbers for awhile. Notice how in-state numbers are higher than HSBC's numbers, whom I would assume is independent but believe they have a large presence there.

About a year or two back, there was a flood of Chinese stocks listed on the US stock exchanges. They skyrocketed until it was found out that nearly every one used fake numbers and bunk accounting to get listed.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #806,462
  • Jun 9, 2013 9:25pm Jun 9, 2013 9:25pm
The pink area of the market profile will fill. While I expect price to move higher than the current high, I'm still looking to add longs on a pullback.
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  • #806,463
  • Jun 9, 2013 9:28pm Jun 9, 2013 9:28pm
The market is not pushed by retail traders, not by retail brokers either. The market is pushed by big speculators (big hedge funds, prop desks, CTAs, COMs). The big speculators pray on market makers (banks, brokerage houses). Market makers profit from spreads when they make a market for the public (corporates, retail traders). Market makers like a stable and range market. Market makers are also screwed by a one-direction and steep market. The food chain is like this: Big speculators pray on market makers, market makers pray on the public.

The book "Beat the forex dealers" by Agustin Silvani has some good info.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #806,464
  • Jun 9, 2013 9:39pm Jun 9, 2013 9:39pm
Quoting tsujigiri
{quote} I thought rather than just the figures it was this kind of thing: China Export Growth Plummets Amid Fake-Shipment Crackdown

more stupid policy from the paper tiger. they are at the beginning of tasting what cheaper u.s. energy does to them. and what they do is, through monetary policy is make energy more expensive.. and at the same time, they make their products cheaper... works well on paper, or does it? they force the cost for raw materials to rise. and at the same time, cut the prices they sell at. stupidity X 2.... hey while we are at it... lets pay the Greeks to ship it to china. then ship it to the u.s. lets add that shipping cost to it.. they got half the world bullshited. stupid is what stupid does.

they will be in Africa like Germany was in the 30ties and 40ties if we dont watch...
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #806,465
  • Jun 9, 2013 9:46pm Jun 9, 2013 9:46pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} they will be in Africa like Germany was in the 30ties and 40ties if we dont watch...

they are already trying
  • #806,466
  • Jun 9, 2013 9:53pm Jun 9, 2013 9:53pm
This would be a bit of a surprise:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...key-judge.html

Wouldn't have thought Germany would be the first to step off the Euro train. Or is this just idle newspaper speculation?
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Lao-tzu
  • #806,467
  • Jun 9, 2013 9:55pm Jun 9, 2013 9:55pm
Quoting tsujigiri
This would be a bit of a surprise: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...key-judge.html Wouldn't have thought Germany would be the first to step off the Euro train. Or is this just idle newspaper speculation?
Honestly, I would think they would. They are the last man standing. They bring back the d-mark and work their economy back. It is probably mere speculation, but they would be the best off i think
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #806,468
  • Jun 9, 2013 10:04pm Jun 9, 2013 10:04pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} Hi mate, Time is changing. In rush hours, this thread is worst than a lupanar Come in and feel comfortable to post anything related or not to the forex
No thanks because most of my posts will be reported and end up in recycle bin AGAIN
  • #806,469
  • Jun 9, 2013 10:15pm Jun 9, 2013 10:15pm
Quoting tsujigiri
This would be a bit of a surprise: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...key-judge.html Wouldn't have thought Germany would be the first to step off the Euro train. Or is this just idle newspaper speculation?
No way man this article is nothing than a bla bla bla
Germany is the first beneficiary of the Euro
  • #806,470
  • Jun 9, 2013 10:23pm Jun 9, 2013 10:23pm
Quoting EuroTrader
{quote} No way man this article is nothing than a bla bla bla Germany is the first beneficiary of the Euro
They're profiting badly with it, as long as everyone stays on the "Euro" boat, let the first one out and the avalanche is unleashed...
  • #806,471
  • Jun 9, 2013 10:27pm Jun 9, 2013 10:27pm
Quoting tsujigiri
This would be a bit of a surprise: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...key-judge.html Wouldn't have thought Germany would be the first to step off the Euro train. Or is this just idle newspaper speculation?

No, no... we will not be the first, we'll be sitting in the bunker waiting for the end. We are a relatively stupid people, for the most part, that is.
  • #806,472
  • Jun 9, 2013 11:06pm Jun 9, 2013 11:06pm
I have got 1.3182, 1.3147 and 1.3118. What's in your wallet?
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  • #806,473
  • Jun 9, 2013 11:11pm Jun 9, 2013 11:11pm
Quoting Chicky
I have got 1.3182, 1.3147 and 1.3118. What's in your wallet? {image}
3148.5, 3124.7, 3109.2, 3098.6, 3069.9, 3030.6

all before a HH, but preferrably after 3271.0.
  • #806,474
  • Jun 9, 2013 11:15pm Jun 9, 2013 11:15pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} more stupid policy from the paper tiger. they are at the beginning of tasting what cheaper u.s. energy does to them. and what they do is, through monetary policy is make energy more expensive.. and at the same time, they make their products cheaper... works well on paper, or does it? they force the cost for raw materials to rise. and at the same time, cut the prices they sell at. stupidity X 2.... hey while we are at it... lets pay the Greeks to ship it to china. then ship it to the u.s. lets add that shipping cost to it.. they got half...
Whatever bullshit they're saying about wanting a weaker yuan to help exports is not true- wages are likely to continue to rise well above inflation and as you mentioned raw materials will keep up too. Margins are certainly not gonna go to zero therefore the only thing inflation helps with is wiping out bad debt from all those empty cities.

As for the US energy thing- they're already building and have big plans for natural gas export terminals including floating ones. All that gas is not gonna stay cheap- it's all going to Japan. And Germany in the 30s didnt invade because it was uncompetitive- quite the opposite- the allies did all they could to get a war going to take out the competition. Too bad nobody told the British they were gonna have to bear the full costs and have to dismantle their empire to pay the americans back for all the war materials or they might have had second thoughts.
  • #806,475
  • Jun 9, 2013 11:20pm Jun 9, 2013 11:20pm
met supp ,,while
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  • #806,476
  • Jun 9, 2013 11:24pm Jun 9, 2013 11:24pm
Quoting sandycarrot
met supp ,,while {image}
same,,
but the opposite
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  • #806,477
  • Jun 9, 2013 11:25pm Jun 9, 2013 11:25pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
{quote} 3148.5, 3124.7, 3109.2, 3098.6, 3069.9, 3030.6 all before a HH, but preferrably after 3271.0.
All I want is a daily close below 1.3197 (Correction)
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #806,478
  • Jun 9, 2013 11:28pm Jun 9, 2013 11:28pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} All I want is a daily close below 1.3197 (Correction)
That would still be inside that ugly bar...
  • #806,479
  • Jun 9, 2013 11:32pm Jun 9, 2013 11:32pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
{quote} That would still be inside that ugly bar...
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  • #806,480
  • Jun 9, 2013 11:32pm Jun 9, 2013 11:32pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
{quote} That would still be inside that ugly bar...
that wonderful bar :-)
"You're solid gold, see you in hell"
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