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  • #50,721
  • Jun 9, 2013 2:22pm Jun 9, 2013 2:22pm
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA A thought came to me this weekend, which I'd like to put out for Sonicers to also think about. It might or might not be valid, and even if valid it might not be sufficient justification to trade one way or the other. I'll explain further below, and any Sonicer can share any related thoughts as they wish in order to put this consideration to bed. Ok, now to this "thought". Using my own "building" versus "run for profits" terminology for the two phases the MMs might be in, it seems to me that frequently enough the "run for profits" phase...
Couple days ago i stopped posting my trades here because i changed the system and i started to trade by my own way.
Now you are talking about very similar way of trading i am using now.
To trade first of all i am looking for trend at Daily charts. Very useful tool of very early spotting of trend direction changing is OsMA. But reversal patterns and crossing of 20 ema also work very good as confluence.
As soon as trend spotted i am looking for pullbacks at 30m charts. Here is PVA works great.
Below an example of trades by GU from last week.
Totally was 6 trades. Gained 983 pips. 163 pips an average from one trade.
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Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #50,722
  • Jun 9, 2013 2:27pm Jun 9, 2013 2:27pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Pmg.g, Would you like to try explaining this again, not using any reference to trade size in US dollars, but strictly in terms of lots, mini-lots, or micro-lots ($10, $1.00, and $0.10 per pip, respectively)? Folks think trade sizes in terms of trading lots, minis and micros, and not in terms of US dollars per trade! Personally, I think each Sonicer should not disclose the size of their trades or their account(s), and focus on pips between EP and close (at SL or TP) instead. That keeps everyone on equal footing, and therefore happy. However,...
TAH,
Hope this will make it clear.
Trading 1 micro lot per trade. Opened 18 trades. It means 1.8$ per pip in total (and opening this trades means the margin is 20$ per trade * 18 trades = margin of 320 USD) so there was 28 pips room to breath for each trade (which is clearly overtrading ). when the average loss per trade was bigger than 28 pips... margin call came.

But again, it doesnt matter, dont wanna confuse anyone. just wanted to use it as a attention for others.
Lose small, WIN BIG..
  • #50,723
  • Jun 9, 2013 2:29pm Jun 9, 2013 2:29pm
Quoting Pmg.g
{quote} well i have got 840 USD... and 18 trades opened, my minimum trade size is 20 usd (it means my margin was 18*20 USD=320 USD) So my room to breathe was 520 USD. 520/18= max avrg loss is 28,8 pips per trade. But this doesn´t matter. Just wanted to show how important Money Management is (on a live example) Looking forward to new week.
Yes, money management is very important and I hope you will be good and will earn more pips than you lost.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #50,724
  • Jun 9, 2013 2:37pm Jun 9, 2013 2:37pm
Another one example by Loonie.
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  • #50,725
  • Jun 9, 2013 2:41pm Jun 9, 2013 2:41pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} You are welcome to review my trades for the week and see the ones not yet closed.
Hello Tah, I counted the pips in dd is about -3120 pips. Very well.
I have great respect for your work many problems of language, but it seems to me that the fundamentals are good.

Looking at the whole backlog this week I saw the following operation on 06/05/2013 UC, meaning that in the stop loss you have indicated quoting a scout is a mistake.
Or refers to an input sonicr classic ?
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  • #50,726
  • Jun 9, 2013 2:45pm Jun 9, 2013 2:45pm
hello everyone
i downloaded sonic strategy and it worked fine on metatrader 4 except for cci indicator it won't open at all
i downloaded it from many sites but they all didn't work
i don't know what is wrong
can anyone help me?
Thank u
  • #50,727
  • Jun 9, 2013 3:50pm Jun 9, 2013 3:50pm
Quoting Apollo14
{quote} Hello Tah, I counted the pips in dd is about -3120 pips. Very well. I have great respect for your work many problems of language, but it seems to me that the fundamentals are good. Looking at the whole backlog this week I saw the following operation on 06/05/2013 UC, meaning that in the stop loss you have indicated quoting a scout is a mistake. Or refers to an input sonicr classic ? {image}
On that trade, the initial post included my mental SL. When price soared down thru it, I ignored it and started adding Scouts because PVSRA indicated the MMs remained bulls.
  • #50,728
  • Jun 9, 2013 3:53pm Jun 9, 2013 3:53pm
Quoting miramaro
hello everyone i downloaded sonic strategy and it worked fine on metatrader 4 except for cci indicator it won't open at all i downloaded it from many sites but they all didn't work i don't know what is wrong can anyone help me? Thank u
....pg1, post1, link1.
  • #50,729
  • Edited 4:46pm Jun 9, 2013 4:23pm | Edited 4:46pm
EJ Short Trade:

Entered additional component to this long standing short trade, Scout, based on market gap up open to highs of late Friday. Trade is old, no go-back links, but all components will be shown when finally closed (likely not anytime soon), even if I have to post a Month chart to fit them all in. There is nothing good to learn from this poorly managed trade, except that it was poorly managed. It might become my longest running trade. It might even out-live me.
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  • #50,730
  • Edited 5:53pm Jun 9, 2013 4:56pm | Edited 5:53pm
GJ Short Trade:

Began new short trade with this Scout. M1 PVSRA shows highest activity on bars following the price move up thru the whole number, indicating the MMs are bears seeking higher prices to add shorts. Also, this move up takes the price back to the area of the highs of Friday, where there also was increased activity. Finally, this price area is a lower high, 100+ pips lower, than the highs set last Thursday, so the MMs might be bears that are now moving price generally lower with this being just a pullback upwards to add to their short positions. No SL, no TP set at this time.

Edit: Decided to add M1 chart to show what I was talking about (pic. 2).....
Edit: Added short #2, Scout, and updated pic. 2.
Edit: Added short #3, Scout, and updated pic. 2.
Edit: Added short #4, Scout, and updated pic. 2.

Edit: (Pic. 3) I think the bear MMs might be done for now pushing up the price while loading up shorts, since they finally got this up thru the half number SR. This was just the Asian session MMs. Still have LS to go, so will see what happens then. Might seem like random adding to a losing trade to the PVSRA novice, but all of this action is at a lower high area which only goes to support the indication the MMs are bears and have just done a superb job of manipulating price upwards so they could add shorts at attractive prices.

Edit: Added short #5, Scout (Pic. 4)....see, we can never know when the MMs will cease the drive. In this case they went a bit further, soundly up thru the half number SR to take good advantage there with continued shorting at high levels, which you can clearly see on an M1 chart. If the MMs continue the push sufficiently, either now or next during the LS, I intend to continue to add.

Edit: Added short #6, Scout (Pic.5). Another step up as the MMs continue to short, and sufficient to me to add also.
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  • #50,731
  • Jun 9, 2013 5:39pm Jun 9, 2013 5:39pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} ....pg1, post1, link1.
still not working
  • #50,732
  • Jun 9, 2013 6:07pm Jun 9, 2013 6:07pm
Quoting miramaro
hello everyone i downloaded sonic strategy and it worked fine on metatrader 4 except for cci indicator it won't open at all i downloaded it from many sites but they all didn't work i don't know what is wrong can anyone help me? Thank u
Quoting traderathome
{quote} ....pg1, post1, link1.
Quoting miramaro
{quote} still not working
....because CCI is not included in the TAH template. We don't use it anymore! (Geez, Sonic! Please remove the old stuff!!!)
  • #50,733
  • Jun 9, 2013 6:16pm Jun 9, 2013 6:16pm
Quoting traderathome
GJ Short Trade: Began new short trade with this Scout. M1 PVSRA shows highest activity on bars following the price move up thru the whole number, indicating the MMs are bears seeking higher prices to add shorts. Also, this move up takes the price back to the area of the highs of Friday, where there also was increased activity. Finally, this price area is a lower high, 100+ pips lower, than the highs set last Thursday, so the MMs might be bears that are now moving price generally lower with this being just a pullback upwards to add to their short...
GJ Short Trade:

Added short trade #7, Scout. Set mental SL and TP.
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  • #50,734
  • Jun 9, 2013 7:30pm Jun 9, 2013 7:30pm
PVSRA, GJ: Bull or Bear?

GJ:

Well, this trade is now into the profit zone. It might be the bear MMs just manipulated the price upwards, ahead of that JPY release, in order to add shorts knowing full well that they are going to run the price down a lot more, sometime later. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow?
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  • #50,735
  • Jun 9, 2013 7:35pm Jun 9, 2013 7:35pm
GU Short Classic. TAH says it is Bear, well here is a classic short!

TP might be changed to lower later! SL not fixed.

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  • #50,736
  • Jun 9, 2013 7:37pm Jun 9, 2013 7:37pm
EU Short Classic. SL and TP are movable depending on how London opens!
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  • #50,737
  • Jun 9, 2013 8:09pm Jun 9, 2013 8:09pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Short Trade: Added short trades #9, #10 and #11, Scouts. {image}
EU Short Trade:

Added short trade #12, Scout. Adjusted SL and TP.
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  • #50,738
  • Jun 9, 2013 8:41pm Jun 9, 2013 8:41pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} PVSRA, NU: Bull or Bear? I see it opposite than you, so let me explain why. The tall bull candle late Thursday struck up to the 0.8100 whole number, which in itself indicates the MMs are bears seeking higher prices to add shorts. This was immediately followed by a strong bear candle, confirming the bear sentiment. The tall bear candle shortly after the US open struck up thru the 0.8000 whole number, again indicating the MMs are bears seeking higher prices to add shorts. This, too, was immediately followed by a strong bear candle, confirming...
Thank you TAH for your correct me. PVSRA is difficult to understand for me (just me!) but I still learn from you and members posts and also PDF file.
I love sonic R classic and PVSRA, I will show you in NU pair again if I find BULL signal (For learning).

Sorry, if my english poor to understand. PVSRA rock!!
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  • #50,739
  • Jun 9, 2013 9:01pm Jun 9, 2013 9:01pm
I can't find the EA that calculate the avarage price for all entries' can someone support?
  • #50,740
  • Jun 9, 2013 9:06pm Jun 9, 2013 9:06pm
PVSRA, GJ: Bull or Bear?

....and then there is this.....
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