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  • #50,681
  • Jun 8, 2013 2:38pm Jun 8, 2013 2:38pm
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} I would think it feels rather nice to be able to say "1933 pips gained. Not so good as previous week!" Good work loeil
Yes you are absolutely right, actually I'm happy with these results
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #50,682
  • Jun 8, 2013 3:42pm Jun 8, 2013 3:42pm
Quoting Quezoy
fex, can you tell me your broker? I have here a pip counter. It works for every pair seperately, just throw it on the chart. It shows current floating pips, current secured pips (with SL) and daily made/lost pips. I find it useful for this kind of trading. {file} {image}
Quezoy, do you have mq4 file of this indi?
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #50,683
  • Edited 4:35pm Jun 8, 2013 4:18pm | Edited 4:35pm
500 %. Impossibile! (Oh, really?)

Sonicers, remember back on May 19, ForexTeam waltzed in and proclaimed......

"I see here many guys, in this forum, that trying to transform 1000 $ in 5000 $ in 1 year. This is: 500 %. Impossibile !" -- ForexTeam

Well, Master Sonicdeejay had his post removed, but I responded saying that I had started a $1,000.00 demo account in the pre-PVSRA stages (Jan. 11, 2013) and had kept it up, and which by May 19th it was, I think, over $4,000.00

At the close of Friday this account is not only over 5K, it is close to being increased by 5K. On June 11, 2013 (this coming Tuesday) it will have been five months since I initiated this account to start experimenting with what was the early glimmers of PVSRA.

I am not bragging here about PVSRA. I am only pointing out that the internet is made for communication, and unfortunately there are those types that communicate without really knowing what they are talking about, either to intentionally mislead others, or maybe because they themselves are misinformed. This guy in particular not only was wrong, but he went on to create credibility for his foolishness by talking about others in the business, professionals that he supposedly knows, that according to him also all agree such a thing could never be done.

Sonicers, please always conduct your trading with due diligence. Read whatever you want to, as part of your quest for ongoing learning, but there is nothing wrong with being very skeptical about anything that is not demonstrated to be credible.

-tah
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  • #50,684
  • Jun 8, 2013 4:45pm Jun 8, 2013 4:45pm
Two short videos from Birger Schäfermeier

I. What does a trader do?

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II. Ten rules for successful trading

1. Enjoy the game - It is too easy to give it up without passion
2. Unconditional trust - Must look at hope and fear with total ignorance to make success.
3. Never trade without positive odds - It is impossible to trade without positive odds, be aware of them
4. Simplicity - Keep it simple
5. Discipline - There are only two factors you can control: risk and yourself
6. Expectations - Never trade with expectations towards the markets
7. Acceptance - Accept everything happening to you - they are all parts of the game
8. Flexibility - There are always more opportunities than you think, more chances with more outcomes
9. Feedback - May you be in losses or winnings, they are valuable feedbacks from the market. Act accordingly.
10. Do what seems to be good - The most important: find your own trading style and be successful with it. Do not let yourself to be confused by the media, analysis or news.

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Mind the gap
  • #50,685
  • Jun 8, 2013 4:51pm Jun 8, 2013 4:51pm
Quoting traderathome
500 %. Impossibile! (Oh, really?) Sonicers, remember back on May 19, ForexTeam waltzed in and proclaimed...... "I see here many guys, in this forum, that trying to transform 1000 $ in 5000 $ in 1 year. This is: 500 %. Impossibile !" -- ForexTeam Well, Master Sonicdeejay had his post removed, but I responded saying that I had started a $1,000.00 demo account in the pre-PVSRA stages (Jan. 11, 2013) and had kept it up, and which by May 19th it was, I think, over $4,000.00 At the close of Friday this account is not only over 5K, it is close to being...
I sincerely do not understand why you trade on a demo.
  • #50,686
  • Jun 8, 2013 5:04pm Jun 8, 2013 5:04pm
Quoting Mingary
{quote} I sincerely do not understand why you trade on a demo.
Maybe it is a language barrier.

I said I opened the demo account to experiment with the idea that later became known as PVSRA, to see if it had merit. I kept it up, still am keeping it up with some of my ongoing trades also made on this account, and will likely keep it up at least until next Tuesday. Just to see if I can get it to 6K,.......1k to 6k, an increase of 5k in five months. I think that is worth trying for just to be able to say it can be done.

I won't lose any sleep over it, if it doesn't happen, because I think the experiment has turned out quite well regardless.

-tah
  • #50,687
  • Jun 8, 2013 5:06pm Jun 8, 2013 5:06pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Maybe it is a language barrier. I said I opened the demo account to experiment with the idea that later became known as PVSRA, to see if it had merit. I kept it up, still am keeping it up with some of my ongoing trades also made on this account, and will likely keep it up at least until next Tuesday. Just to see if I can get it to 6K,.......1k to 6k, an increase of 5k in five months. I think that is worth trying for just to be able to say it can be done. -tah
Nice Work Tah
Creditors have better memories than debtors.
  • #50,688
  • Jun 8, 2013 5:13pm Jun 8, 2013 5:13pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Maybe it is a language barrier. I said I opened the demo account to experiment with the idea that later became known as PVSRA, to see if it had merit. I kept it up, still am keeping it up with some of my ongoing trades also made on this account, and will likely keep it up at least until next Tuesday. Just to see if I can get it to 6K,.......1k to 6k, an increase of 5k in five months. I think that is worth trying for just to be able to say it can be done. -tah


I understand. Thanks.
As of today all your trades in PVSRA have been demo trades?
For instance the results that you posted earlier

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...34#post6739434

All demo trades?
  • #50,689
  • Jun 8, 2013 5:37pm Jun 8, 2013 5:37pm
Quoting Mingary
{quote} I understand. Thanks. As of today all your trades in PVSRA have been demo trades? For instance the results that you posted earlier http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...34#post6739434 All demo trades?
No, you don't understand. Please read more carefully.
  • #50,690
  • Jun 8, 2013 10:48pm Jun 8, 2013 10:48pm
I'm getting really tired of seeing posts asking how much money is being made, is he/she trading in a demo account, etc etc etc....STOP asking irrelevant questions like these! If you want to know if the system works then learn and try it out yourself! Your obviously looking for the wrong information by asking questions like that and its aggravating noobs to pvsra like me since I am here to LEARN not to see dumb posts asking for proof of success.

Hahahaha. Did you guys think that the "HOLY GRAIL" would be easy to learn ? Its not ! I have been learning and observing pvsra for a month now by analyzing charts and reading the ebooks posted. I have learned a lot and slowly starting to see what TAH sees. Im not there yet tho !

I am here to look and expect posts about how to learn and become better at pvsrv.....not look at nonsense posts about income...


-rxJano
  • #50,691
  • Edited 11:51pm Jun 8, 2013 11:26pm | Edited 11:51pm
With do respect, Sir TAH, if the result of PVSRA is only on DEMO all the way. It really should be point out at the very beginning, and every time it post.


With all the results, lessons and the PDF manual, many people could treat the PVSRA as a already great working system. Learn, and use it in real term. I think there could be hundreds, even thousands of SONICERS burn their accounts last week on GBP or other pairs.

I mean their real account, real money.


It's very bad, even through the major problem should be their own moneymanagement.


Also about moneymanagement for the PVSRA: a 5000dollar account, what's reasonable size should be open for 1lot? How many lots is the maximun?
Most important, HOW TO TAKE THE SL???WHEN AND WHERE??? SL will, and definitely will be taken in any trading method when the time comes.


Personally, I didn't trade on the PVSRA. however, I learn it for 2weeks last month, I didn't read the latest PDF Manual yet, hope it is already answer all the question above.

GOOD DAY AND GOOD LUCK
  • #50,692
  • Jun 9, 2013 12:33am Jun 9, 2013 12:33am
Quoting traderathome
500 %. Impossibile! (Oh, really?) Sonicers, remember back on May 19, ForexTeam waltzed in and proclaimed...... "I see here many guys, in this forum, that trying to transform 1000 $ in 5000 $ in 1 year. This is: 500 %. Impossibile !" -- ForexTeam Well, Master Sonicdeejay had his post removed, but I responded saying that I had started a $1,000.00 demo account in the pre-PVSRA stages (Jan. 11, 2013) and had kept it up, and which by May 19th it was, I think, over $4,000.00 At the close of Friday this account is not only over 5K, it is close to being...

Nice work TaH. Keep up the good work.
  • #50,693
  • Jun 9, 2013 1:08am Jun 9, 2013 1:08am
Quoting daniel9
With do respect, Sir TAH, if the result of PVSRA is only on DEMO all the way. It really should be point out at the very beginning
And it was. This was clear from early begining.
It is so nice to see aggro from peoples who posted near 0 trades or registered in few months.

Good job TAH.
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  • #50,694
  • Jun 9, 2013 1:09am Jun 9, 2013 1:09am
hi TAH

Can you biuld a indicator or template that say Bear Or Bull according to PVRSA?
  • #50,695
  • Jun 9, 2013 1:37am Jun 9, 2013 1:37am
Quoting francus
{quote} and it was. This was clear from early begining. It is so nice to see aggro from peoples who posted near 0 trades or registered in few months. Good job tah. {image}

very funny. YOU EXPIERENCED MEMBER.

what i mean is: never seen word "demo account" appeared before anywhere.

and it's better for us to discuss about the real matter such as detail of MONEY MANAGEMENT instead of play talk.
  • #50,696
  • Jun 9, 2013 1:44am Jun 9, 2013 1:44am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} No, you don't understand. Please read more carefully.

You are not giving me a straight answer. There is no need to be on the defensive. The fact that you trade on a demo does not take away any of the valuable insights that you provide.
  • #50,697
  • Jun 9, 2013 2:39am Jun 9, 2013 2:39am
Quoting daniel9
{quote} very funny. YOU EXPIERENCED MEMBER. what i mean is: never seen word "demo account" appeared before anywhere. and it's better for us to discuss about the real matter such as detail of MONEY MANAGEMENT instead of play talk.
About Money Management,
I have 500USD in my account, when I build positions follow PVSRA system. I will trade 0.01 lot and build average 5 x 0.01lot. If the mkt go up and up last week, it 's will not get in margin call and you also have enough money for other opportunities with other pairs. With PVSRA, you can know when the mkt will go down or up again. TAH mentioned Money Management in this thread a lot.

Why does everyone try to understand the PVSRA ? And get the way of your trade.
Don't try to ask question irrelevant to SonicR method like "how much % your return" or "Is your account DEMO or REAL ?"
Keep learning until you die :-)
  • #50,698
  • Jun 9, 2013 3:18am Jun 9, 2013 3:18am
Quoting rxJano
I'm getting really tired of seeing posts asking how much money is being made, is he/she trading in a demo account, etc etc etc.....I have learned a lot and slowly starting to see what TAH sees. Im not there yet tho ! I am here to look and expect posts about how to learn and become better at pvsrv.....not look at nonsense posts about income... -rxJano
Second that, rxJano.
So let us all discuss the method / system and find out for youselves if it works for you. Because if it works for TAH or anyone else it is not said it works for you as well, because you are a different trader. You have to find out, and you have to do the work.

@TAH: Are you now trying to 'prove' the 'system' does a good job when proper Money Management is used? There is really no use in it.
Please keep on doing what you did: document your entries and exits. I have read /studied the last pdf and there are lots of examples in it, which explain what PVSRA is all about. Everyone can check the graphs if they want to. And they should when they want to learn.
This thread is in the danger of getting into the "lifecycle of threads" I described a few posts earlier.
Posting Demo charts, mirroring some of them live.
  • #50,699
  • Jun 9, 2013 3:52am Jun 9, 2013 3:52am
Quoting daniel9
With do respect, Sir TAH, if the result of PVSRA is only on DEMO all the way. It really should be point out at the very beginning, and every time it post. With all the results, lessons and the PDF manual, many people could treat the PVSRA as a already great working system. Learn, and use it in real term. I think there could be hundreds, even thousands of SONICERS burn their accounts last week on GBP or other pairs. I mean their real account, real money. It's very bad, even through the major problem should be their own moneymanagement. Also about...


Will it EVER end?
  • #50,700
  • Jun 9, 2013 4:24am Jun 9, 2013 4:24am
Quoting DmitryFX
{quote} Quezoy, do you have mq4 file of this indi?
Nope
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