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  • #50,461
  • Jun 6, 2013 8:17am Jun 6, 2013 8:17am
gonna add more shorts in GU in that SR area. Luckly this is just the demo i use to learn PVSRA.
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  • #50,462
  • Jun 6, 2013 8:20am Jun 6, 2013 8:20am
same goes for EU. need to be more patience. maybe tml will be the key of all since it is NFP
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  • #50,463
  • Jun 6, 2013 8:32am Jun 6, 2013 8:32am
Quoting TomekTrading
{quote} Hello everybody, Im new on the FF forum, but as a FX and indices trading about 8 years of experience. Very interesting thread, very similiar trading aproach Im using, but I want to ask about Your PVA indicator, as I see its based on "Volumes" indocators in MT4 and TAH wrote, that it calculates "executed trade orders". As I know only think what this indicator counts is number of price change in time frame You set, so generally its useless, are You sure that Your broker shows "executed trade orders" ? Thats why there are differences...

Does anyone of You guys users of Sonic R can answer for my above question - are You sure that Your broker shows "executed trade orders" ?
If yes, pls give me the name of the broker.
If no, this indicator shows You the volatility of the market in fact this has nothing to common with volume.

Generall as today EU shows, advise for beginners, dont ever bet against the trend and what worse dont ever add more to Your positions size for "better average" in long run You will lose money.

Regards and wish 4all best trades.
  • #50,464
  • Jun 6, 2013 8:32am Jun 6, 2013 8:32am
Quoting scuderia
same goes for EU. need to be more patience. maybe tml will be the key of all since it is NFP {image}
I will save my last scout for tomorrow because the NFP could push the price even higher.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #50,465
  • Jun 6, 2013 8:38am Jun 6, 2013 8:38am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} I will save my last scout for tomorrow because the NFP could push the price even higher.
that is true bro. but i put my pending order already. in those SR. let the market decide. hopefully it will drop to the way we want it. for now i think i just rest. Gnitez Everybody.
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  • #50,466
  • Jun 6, 2013 8:53am Jun 6, 2013 8:53am
Closed my long positions on EJ and GJ because i saw them entering shot close to SR and volume was high so i know they are not ready to change trend to bull so i joined them at 130.50 and 130.62 so we are going down...any body going down with me...
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  • #50,467
  • Jun 6, 2013 8:54am Jun 6, 2013 8:54am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} You have to go into your profile (top left of the screen) and then in the sidebar to click in "Forum signature"

thx alot Tymedu for the tip

best regards
back to square no one , over trading is my sin , never get the lesson
  • #50,468
  • Jun 6, 2013 8:56am Jun 6, 2013 8:56am
Quoting TomekTrading
{quote} Does anyone of You guys users of Sonic R can answer for my above question - are You sure that Your broker shows "executed trade orders" ? If yes, pls give me the name of the broker. If no, this indicator shows You the volatility of the market in fact this has nothing to common with volume. Generall as today EU shows, advise for beginners, dont ever bet against the trend and what worse dont ever add more to Your positions size for "better average" in long run You will lose money. Regards and wish 4all best trades.

Hey Tomek,

I also think the volume you see in the indicator is tick volume.
That's why I don't use the PVSRA method and am still enjoying my GBPUSD long trade.
On the other hand, it seems to work out very well foor TAH, so who am I to rain on is parade, right?
Cheers.
  • #50,469
  • Jun 6, 2013 8:57am Jun 6, 2013 8:57am
Seems banks are following this thread :nerd:
All my trades are in demo, dont do these things at home without permission!
  • #50,470
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:02am Jun 6, 2013 9:02am
Quoting o0AxeL0o
Seems banks are following this thread :nerd:
I doubt it, there trading millions....
Creditors have better memories than debtors.
  • #50,471
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:04am Jun 6, 2013 9:04am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UChf Long Trade: Added long trade #6, Scout. M1 PVSRA shows that with high impact release just minutes away, the MMs ran the price down, with higher trading at the lows, and since then also coming up off the lows. Removed mental SL. Adjusted tentative TP. {image}
UChf Long Trade:

Added long trades #7, #8 and #9, Scouts. Adjusted tentative TP.
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  • #50,472
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:10am Jun 6, 2013 9:10am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Short Trade: Added short trade #8, Scout. No SL. Adjusted TP is tentative. {image}
EU Short Trade:

Added short trades #9, #10 and #11, Scouts.
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  • #50,473
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:15am Jun 6, 2013 9:15am
Quoting Cjn
{quote} Hey Tomek, I also think the volume you see in the indicator is tick volume. That's why I don't use the PVSRA method and am still enjoying my GBPUSD long trade. On the other hand, it seems to work out very well foor TAH, so who am I to rain on is parade, right? Cheers.
This made me search on the net and I found this:

"“Tick volume” measures the number of times the price ticks up and down. This is an excellent indicator of the strength of activity in any given bar. But also, the correlation between tick volume and actual volume traded is incredibly high. In 2011, Caspar Marney, head of Marney Capital and ex-UBS and HSBC trader, conducted an analysis of actual volume and tick volume in Forex. He used data from eSignal, EBS and Hotspot. For the pairs he studied, he calculated the correlation between tick volume and actual volume is over 90%."

So maybe it is no so bad to use tick volume in PVSRA.
Posting Demo charts, mirroring some of them live.
  • #50,474
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:22am Jun 6, 2013 9:22am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GU Short Trade: Added short trade #8, Scout. SL remains mental (already violated) and adjusted TP remains tentative. Edit: Added short trade #9, Scout. Removed SL. Tentative TP is adjusted (pic2). Edit: Added short trade #10, Scout. Tentative TP is adjusted (pic3). Edit: Added short trade #11, Scout. Tentative TP is adjusted (pic4). {image} {image} {image} {image}
GU Short Trade:

Added short trades #12 thru #15, Scouts.
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  • #50,475
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:29am Jun 6, 2013 9:29am
Hey TAH, is this the way to trade the PVSRA? Please answer. Thanks.

Quoting Immvp
Hi Tah and everyone, all this while, I always trade with the classic Sonic R and find it profitable but lately with the PVSRA scout, I feel that this is not SONIC thread anymore but hey as long as it is profitable, right? Lets go straight to my question, In PVSRA scout trade, am i right to say that we are trading against the trend? Is it simply going short when there is a significant Green Volume at the highest possible price and going long when there is a big Red Volume at the lowest possible price? Of course we have to take into account the SnR...
  • #50,476
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:29am Jun 6, 2013 9:29am
ehrmmmm sry TAH, I don't wanna sound heretic.... but aren't you averaging heavily down ?
That's pretty risky for people without a rock solid money management...
I imagine it's an issue you clarified in the past...
  • #50,477
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:29am Jun 6, 2013 9:29am
EU, GU bears? All the time? Nice joke Maybe it's time to think more supply and demand too, not only PVSRA.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #50,478
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:37am Jun 6, 2013 9:37am
I know when they are going down and when they want some push up i just know when to follow them read my previous post...majorly on JPY pairs...there is something we need to add to this PVSRA SYSTEM so we know when to sell and buy....Just saying though if the boss around here wants to know more please give me permission to do so... i know it will be helpful and saves some major drawdown...like the one we are having now on EU,GU and UChf...

I was testing the EU and GU pair with out my trend guide and also testing the EJ and GJ UJ with my trend guide and i made more gains on JPY pairs and lossing on USD pair so i came to the conclusion that it is better we know the overall trend and trade along with the trend using PVSRA system along with Sonic R system it will pay more...

Just my own little contribution...
  • #50,479
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:38am Jun 6, 2013 9:38am
Quoting loeil
EU, GU bears? All the time? Nice joke Maybe it's time to think more supply and demand too, not only PVSRA.
Now it's time to PVSRA sucks, 3 days ago PVSRA rocks. Chill dude, we are all suffering here with this pump. The "positive" part of this is that all this movement is MM's working. No news, not an Apocalypse, just MM's doing the biggest pump I ever saw since I'm trader.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #50,480
  • Jun 6, 2013 9:41am Jun 6, 2013 9:41am
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Now it's time to PVSRA sucks, 3 days ago PVSRA rocks. Chill dude, we are all suffering here with this pump. The "positive" part of this is that all this movement is MM's working. No news, not an Apocalypse, just MM's doing the biggest pump I ever saw since I'm trader.

This pump was only medium news i can only imagine tomorrow...
I'm also down -400 pips.
It's all about patience!!
Hey Tymedu hows xemarkets as a broker?
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