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  • #804,781
  • Jun 4, 2013 4:20pm Jun 4, 2013 4:20pm
btw for anyone reading, i dont own any bitcoin at all, I bought bitcoin but transferred over to another alternate crypto currency which I hope will gain in the long run. Hope to be an early early adopter here (finger's crossed).

The good thing is as bitcoin rises so does this alt coin even though it trades against bitcoin... seems as though the best strategy is to hold onto alternate coins as they rise with bitcoins even though they are traded against bitcoin ie ltc/btc, ppc/btc... but when btc/usd rises so does ltc/usd and ltc/btc.... I'm holding dvc, so if btc rises and dvc rises, then I gain more than if I had just held btc.
  • #804,782
  • Jun 4, 2013 4:25pm Jun 4, 2013 4:25pm
Quoting tsujigiri
{quote} Patience is a virtue, Virtue is a grace; And Grace is a little girl Who doesn't wash her face. (Sorry, couldn't help it...)
  • #804,783
  • Jun 4, 2013 4:26pm Jun 4, 2013 4:26pm
Quoting attila
{quote} The funny part of it all is... there is no law forbiding it.. now they're throwing the terrorist blanket over it.. There are many communities in the U.S. using their own currency internally... Apparently the U.S. gov. sees this as a real threat and they will find a legal way to shut it down.. And if U.S. is not into it, then I'm not sure how's that going to work.
The thing is, these other currencies in circulation can be cut off because they are physical, there is no exchange etc... they really wouldn't work unless gov't condones it. However with crypto's there are online exchange's and more and more people willing to transfer you btc from cash for a fee, the exchange lets you trade or transfer to anotehr alt coin, or back to cash, usually within an hour. Getting the cash back means doing some kind of bank transfer or something.

With crypto's the gov't can't stop anyone from sending bank transfers to ppl, they are not allowed to ask you where the money is going (unless its a lot of money), even if they do people can simply say my friend, and even so they can't shut down site's that are not US based. If there is a scammer who's taking money and not giving bitcoin's, they will be labelled and people will simply not work with him.. its a community and people work in unison. The dwolla deal basically meant that US said no to bitcoins right thena nd there, but the market never broke, why? because all it did was delay the inevitable. Paypal CEO already considered adding bitcoin as a payment option. As of now they do not accept because you can't retract a transaction like a credit card. There is no easy way to buy bitcoins as of yet, but like I said there are site's popping up as there is incentive to do so for fees.

I'm sure there will be laws passed but there will always be demand for bitcoins as a result because that is essentially saying that they now know we are a threat. As people become aware, they get involved and drive demand up to be able to buy real things, slowly someone offers work for btc and voila, then you have politicians willing to try to change laws for those who favor btc, and then the voting process takes over.
  • #804,784
  • Jun 4, 2013 4:38pm Jun 4, 2013 4:38pm
Quoting sidhujag
{quote} The thing is, these other currencies in circulation can be cut off because they are physical, there is no exchange etc... they really wouldn't work unless gov't condones it. However with crypto's there are online exchange's and more and more people willing to transfer you btc from cash for a fee, the exchange lets you trade or transfer to anotehr alt coin, or back to cash, usually within an hour. Getting the cash back means doing some kind of bank transfer or something. With crypto's the gov't can't stop anyone from sending bank transfers...
My broker accepts BTCs and I lost about 21 million Bitcoins last year trading non-digital currencies. I now have only 99 million Satoshis left.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #804,785
  • Jun 4, 2013 4:48pm Jun 4, 2013 4:48pm
that's quite a bit of dvc still 1 dvc is only 130 satoshi's
  • #804,786
  • Jun 4, 2013 4:57pm Jun 4, 2013 4:57pm
dont like posting smaller moves cause they lie. atm at 3081.. 3160 is trying to get the bulls over there, maybe after 3070..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #804,787
  • Jun 4, 2013 4:59pm Jun 4, 2013 4:59pm
Without reading all your bitcoin propaganda- do you think it's any coincidence that NOBODY here has jumped on your bitcoin band wagon at all? I have bitcoins, about 11 I think (i havent accessed that computer/wallet in a long LONG time). They're more of a fiat money than the US dollar is. They aren't tangible. Do you REALLY think the combined governments of the world aren't gonna find a way to regulate and/or eliminate bitcoin?

You save your bitcoins, let me know when you're able to buy that house "in 10 years". Right now though...you can't.
  • #804,788
  • Jun 4, 2013 5:08pm Jun 4, 2013 5:08pm
Quoting sidhujag
that's quite a bit of dvc still 1 dvc is only 130 satoshi's
How many Shitcoins one can get for 1 dvc?
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #804,789
  • Jun 4, 2013 5:10pm Jun 4, 2013 5:10pm
International Banksters Union - ( I call them the IBU ) lol.

The Libor Scandal (crucial interest rates in finance) brought forth few arrests, although billions, possibly trillions, over the years were manipulated by interest rates to favor major banks. Barclays agreed to pay $453 million to settle allegations. RBS, UBS, and more than a dozen other banks investigated, including Lloyds Banking Group and HSBC... and so it goes on and on...

If the average, or even above average investor "played" with the numbers like that and got caught, we'd never see the light of day again.

I wonder who really is behind the big OZ curtain pulling the strings....
  • #804,790
  • Jun 4, 2013 5:16pm Jun 4, 2013 5:16pm
Quoting gatorinla
dont like posting smaller moves cause they lie. atm at 3081.. 3160 is trying to get the bulls over there, maybe after 3070..
Quoting BlueCirrus
{quote} Hello Mr Hatch...That's a good one... Since the EUR is still in consolidation, the Aussie may be of interest. The H4 has a near perfect extension and move back to norm, and it may close this H4 bar with a bullish candle. We also have Aussie GDP in about 5 1/2 hours. If Gator's normal PA works out here, the next targets would be .9735 and .9862....
Hello Gator...Think you said a couple of days ago that you wanted people to post things that you may not have seen....See what you think of the above...

Also on the EUR monthly charts, April bullish engulfed March, and May re-tested the lows......Supply (and projections) at 1.34xx - 1.35xx area...
  • #804,791
  • Jun 4, 2013 5:25pm Jun 4, 2013 5:25pm
Quoting gatorinla
dont like posting smaller moves cause they lie. atm at 3081.. 3160 is trying to get the bulls over there, maybe after 3070..

67 better..
no meat for me.. break 2040 or the high..and i will be willing
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #804,792
  • Jun 4, 2013 5:39pm Jun 4, 2013 5:39pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} How many Shitcoins one can get for 1 dvc?
0.00000128
  • #804,793
  • Jun 4, 2013 5:42pm Jun 4, 2013 5:42pm
Quoting Pharm0r
Without reading all your bitcoin propaganda- do you think it's any coincidence that NOBODY here has jumped on your bitcoin band wagon at all? I have bitcoins, about 11 I think (i havent accessed that computer/wallet in a long LONG time). They're more of a fiat money than the US dollar is. They aren't tangible. Do you REALLY think the combined governments of the world aren't gonna find a way to regulate and/or eliminate bitcoin? You save your bitcoins, let me know when you're able to buy that house "in 10 years". Right now though...you can't.
I won't be letting YOU know anything, but in 10 years who know where we will be. All I know the world turns and things change. It's obvious the gov't will be against it, at that time I will decide what to do, but at this point it's a mute point so not sure what you are getting at. All I know is its an easier market to read and trade, the rest is speculation. Time will tell.
  • #804,794
  • Jun 4, 2013 5:45pm Jun 4, 2013 5:45pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} 67 better.. no meat for me.. break 2040 or the high..and i will be willing
Gatorinla... Are you saying that a bounce off of the mofu is when you decide to look for a norm and if so, how can I use my fibs to hypothesis a norm?.... I mean... how do I calculate the distance.. if that is even possible.. I know that some chart patterns can be calculated mathematically.
Luck has no place in trading. Leave that for the poker table.
  • #804,795
  • Jun 4, 2013 5:46pm Jun 4, 2013 5:46pm
Quoting BlueCirrus
{quote} {quote} Hello Gator...Think you said a couple of days ago that you wanted people to post things that you may not have seen....See what you think of the above... Also on the EUR monthly charts, April bullish engulfed March, and May re-tested the lows......Supply (and projections) at 1.34xx - 1.35xx area...

the quarter ended bearish.. those candles are inside. i would not worry about them too much. we got back to norm at 3226, and went 15 pips past. months back... no big deal. we did the same now with 3097 this time... in doing so 3198 made a play... so at any time we are free to go to 2663. just have the 3198 attraction to solve the riddle. and when we do, we will have paved a way for 24xx ish min.
3197 is where last year closed. a natural R spot, so bears will have 3 things in their favor at 3198 or soon. we may need 2896 first..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #804,796
  • Jun 4, 2013 6:02pm Jun 4, 2013 6:02pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} the quarter ended bearish.. those candles are inside. i would not worry about them too much. we got back to norm at 3226, and went 15 pips past. months back... no big deal. we did the same now with 3097 this time... in doing so 3198 made a play... so at any time we are free to go to 2663. just have the 3198 attraction to solve the riddle. and when we do, we will have paved a way for 24xx ish min. 3197 is where last year closed. a natural R spot, so bears will have 3 things in their favor at 3198 or soon. we may need 2896 first..

then 3198
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #804,797
  • Jun 4, 2013 6:24pm Jun 4, 2013 6:24pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} the quarter ended bearish.. those candles are inside. i would not worry about them too much. we got back to norm at 3226, and went 15 pips past. months back... no big deal. we did the same now with 3097 this time... in doing so 3198 made a play... so at any time we are free to go to 2663. just have the 3198 attraction to solve the riddle. and when we do, we will have paved a way for 24xx ish min. 3197 is where last year closed. a natural R spot, so bears will have 3 things in their favor at 3198 or soon. we may need 2896 first..
Yeah, looking at the 1st quarter as a single bar, it is bearish but, ....April is not completely inside the 1st quarter candle....
I have all of those numbers you have posted here, just not interpreting them the same as you yet...lol. And, getting the sequence right is the real key to success with your method.

Regarding 2896, I have 1.28977 as one of the levels over the last month or so of price action, just don't see how it fits the sequence right now...Will study it some more!

Going to keep an eye on the Aussie this evening...Maybe long entry around .9630 - 35ish...or .9617
  • #804,798
  • Jun 4, 2013 6:29pm Jun 4, 2013 6:29pm
Quoting BlueCirrus
{quote} Yeah, looking at the 1st quarter as a single bar, it is bearish but, ....April is not completely inside the 1st quarter candle.... I have all of those numbers you have posted here, just not interpreting them the same as you yet...lol. And, getting the sequence right is the real key to success with your method. Regarding 2896, I have 1.28977 as one of the levels over the last month or so of price action, just don't see how it fits the sequence right now...Will study it some more! Going to keep an eye on the Aussie this evening...Maybe long...

What candles are the ones to look at for the quarterly candles?
Luck has no place in trading. Leave that for the poker table.
  • #804,799
  • Jun 4, 2013 6:34pm Jun 4, 2013 6:34pm
Quoting Pair-me-up
{quote} What candles are the ones to look at for the quarterly candles?
Unless you have software that will plot quarterly bars, you just look at Jan, Feb and March for the 1st quarter and "imagine" the single candle that they make....
  • #804,800
  • Jun 4, 2013 6:38pm Jun 4, 2013 6:38pm
Quoting BlueCirrus
{quote} Unless you have software that will plot quarterly bars, you just look at Jan, Feb and March for the 1st quarter and "imagine" the single candle that they make....

I don't have special software... but I suppose I can use those vertical lines to zone them off. And then look at the open, close, high, low.. Thanks.
Luck has no place in trading. Leave that for the poker table.
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