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  • #50,101
  • Jun 1, 2013 7:00am Jun 1, 2013 7:00am
  •  St3ve
  • | Joined Jan 2013 | Status: Recovering from losses ... | 77 Posts
New pre-release version of TAH's "SonicR Trade Levels" indicator

Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} St3ve, would it be possible to add an option for the indicator to insert a VERTICAL line at the entry point of Entry #1? Sometimes these trades can run for a longggggg time, and it is difficult to go through each and every posting to find where it all began. It definitely helps (me) to get a clearer visual of the entire trade as it progresses from the beginning to the end. Just a suggestion.
Feature added in this version. Some feedback if it is working as expected would be great!

Quoting loeil
{quote} Thanks, but TP pips are not right. Why it's shows 5200 pips when actually are 520 pips ? {image}
I temporarily added a new variable in the indicator settings named "Pip_Value_Correction". Could you please try to change this e.g. to 1000 and check if the estimated pips are correct?


steve

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  • #50,102
  • Jun 1, 2013 7:21am Jun 1, 2013 7:21am
Quoting loeil
I had also very good trading week 2480 pips ..and it was the first week when I closed all my trades for a weekend.. so satisfied Thanks guys.
Hi, Please am new to this tread i have read page 1 of this thread and i have downloaded the TAH template and the PVSRA i still don't understand when to place trade, i will appreciate if you will be my guide...Do we trade againt the trend and how do we trade the trade so confused...
  • #50,103
  • Jun 1, 2013 8:12am Jun 1, 2013 8:12am
Quoting zawad4u
{quote} Hi, Please am new to this tread i have read page 1 of this thread and i have downloaded the TAH template and the PVSRA i still don't understand when to place trade, i will appreciate if you will be my guide...Do we trade againt the trend and how do we trade the trade so confused...
haha brother, im done reading the pvsra.pdf and im still confuse...this(pvsra) is really confusing
  • #50,104
  • Jun 1, 2013 8:43am Jun 1, 2013 8:43am
Quoting zawad4u
{quote} Hi, Please am new to this tread i have read page 1 of this thread and i have downloaded the TAH template and the PVSRA i still don't understand when to place trade, i will appreciate if you will be my guide...Do we trade againt the trend and how do we trade the trade so confused...
Not to appear rude or mean spirited, but you are really going to have
to dig into the info in the thread more.

I doubt anyone will take the time to even attempt an answer to those
types of questions.

I realize the thread is a long one, but if you were taking a course in
any school, you would be expected to read the materials.

Best of luck to you!

  • #50,105
  • Jun 1, 2013 8:44am Jun 1, 2013 8:44am
SonicR........

A runaway hit on Forex Factory (and beyond!)

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  • #50,106
  • Jun 1, 2013 10:21am Jun 1, 2013 10:21am
Quoting St3ve
New pre-release version of TAH's "SonicR Trade Levels" indicator {quote} Feature added in this version. Some feedback if it is working as expected would be great! {quote} I temporarily added a new variable in the indicator settings named "Pip_Value_Correction". Could you please try to change this e.g. to 1000 and check if the estimated pips are correct? steve {file}
Thank you very much St3ve, it's working! "Pip_Value_Correction" 1000 works right on my MT4.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #50,107
  • Jun 1, 2013 11:50am Jun 1, 2013 11:50am
Quoting pres78
{quote} Well looking at both ES-mini and Dow-mini we could definatelty see some selling next week. The close of this weekly candle completes a bearish evening doji star pattern. {image} My last post had no picture and I escaped unscathed but not chancing it again... NO PICTURE NO POST!!! {image} ES-mini looks very similar but middle day of the pattern is NOT a pin bar.
Hello There...

I have been reading and studying this system for many days and I am almost there having understood the system about 80%.
Can anyone send me or attach the pdf of PVSRA pdf that is on page 2401 post nbr 48013.
I tried to uploaded several times but it says file contain error and cannot be opened..
I am sure someone have it.... Appreciate your help

tks
  • #50,108
  • Jun 1, 2013 12:12pm Jun 1, 2013 12:12pm
Quoting ArtfulDodger
SonicR........ A runaway hit on Forex Factory (and beyond!) {image}
ArtfulDodger.

yes, your pic of sonicr is running is nice animation and trying to beat James 16 thread ...Forex factory all time best ran into the Commercial forum and still going very strong ...way to go PVSRA
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  • #50,109
  • Jun 1, 2013 12:27pm Jun 1, 2013 12:27pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
I don't think there will be explosive move for the rest of the week and we can have weekend gap to wipe u out.. do not take position with tight stop.. I m at outside to cheer to my wife as she gonna run for sun down marathon... Sonic {image}
Hi Sonic,
Its weekend so I have free time to read and catch up with your posts and a selected few.

Good advice to sonicr traders .... no tight stops.
But I see many members here now trade with sonicr with pvsra experiment without stop loss and averaging down addidin to losing positions and making lots of pips.
The many posts by members reporting huge profits in thousand pips sure is attracting many new traders like ants to sugar.

You should explain this to new traders coming on board this thread about money management and the importance of momey management in trading sonicr the way your would trade sonicr and the difference to the other experimental way sonicr + pvsra.

Good Luck.

EMMANUEL
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #50,110
  • Jun 1, 2013 12:51pm Jun 1, 2013 12:51pm
Quoting Coldice
Price and Volume analysis is a powerful tool (maybe even the most powerful tool, if used correctly) but there is a point that personally I am focusing right now to figure out an learn to distinguish with a high percentage rate where the move is generated by the bears or bull (this involves big moves with big candles involving gib volumes) Some people who are just initiating into this strategy might get confused, and it perfectly fine, I'm also confused at a certain degree so I have a couple of thoughts that I would like to discuss, and pointing...
Coldice,

That's very good thoughts you shared and well written down. Thank you.
Trading forex with VSA is still ery new and there are many different school fo thoughts how VSA is applied to forex trading.
The fact is we do not know why the market participnats are referred to as market manupilators aka MM here in this thread.
The monye market moves by all market participants including the central banks, commercial banks, funds, and not forgetting also the SWFs, etc. It is s commercila world out there which drives the world economy.
We being small retail traders just trade this market using all kind of methods and tools available. There is no way to know if the perceived MM is bull or bear using any coventional indicators. What I see here is traders are using this experimental pvsra as their trading belief and use averaging down to add to losing positions and waiting for the market to turnaround so that they can pick up the huge pips as their profit. So far it looks like it is working as I see a few traders reporting lots of pips per week. But I doubt anyone can trade this way to make a living out of trading or even have a supplement income to their regular jobs. I read traders trade with microlot and with a $50 account and happily said he triple his account in 2 months, etc.
I prefer to stick to the conventional way to trade Price Action and what you described is still one good way to trade this spot forex market. But with VSA included in the Price Action is one way for traders to get into the market and make some decent money.It is all about Entries and Exits. And Exits also mean taking some losses along the way.

Here is one good example using PA and how to deal with situation like pin bar you mentioned.
http://www.forexschoolonline.com/how...ex-hunt-stops/

Regards,
EMMANUEL
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #50,111
  • Jun 1, 2013 1:37pm Jun 1, 2013 1:37pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Hi Sonic, Its weekend so I have free time to read and catch up with your posts and a selected few. Good advice to sonicr traders .... no tight stops. But I see many members here now trade with sonicr with pvsra experiment without stop loss and averaging down addidin to losing positions and making lots of pips. The many posts by members reporting huge profits in thousand pips sure is attracting many new traders like ants to sugar. You should explain this to new traders coming on board this thread about money management and the importance...
The Sonic R. System, PVSRA and Money Management

Hi emmanuel7788,

Both Master Sonicdeejay and I wholeheartedly agree that money management is very important in trading. The fact that taking up to ten positions that are one tenth the size of whatever has previously been the habit of a trader, and even taking them when price is going in the "wrong" direction, can typically result in half the risk of one large single position trade, does not negate the importance of money management.

The questions are, how many times does this have to be stated, and in what places should it be stated? I, for one, believe this is in the PVSRA PDF already:

MONEY MANAGEMENT FOR USING PVSRA
---------------------MOST IMPORTANT PART
Professor TAH has been telling many times how you must use small position sizes compared
to what you might have been doing before!

If folks come here and simply download and start, intentionally ignoring their responsibility to read and learn, then whatever happens to them is their own fault. We do not spoon feed here. As traders ourselves, we do not have the time to be constantly bending over backwards making efforts to save the lazy ones. Maybe you yourself have not read the PVSRA PDF, and have failed to see the above.

Master Sonicdeejay himself has included in Post#1 a link to his own section on Money Management. Perhaps you have not read that either.

This weekend I will make another post, sort of an introduction to PVSRA. It won't be about how to perform the analysys. It will be about the fact that it is a multiple entry style of trading and it will briefly explore some of the important things this can mean to a trader. Jackywang5 might add it as part of an introductory section in his PVSRA PDF in his next update of it. After that, folks are on their own. I will be through with making warnings. If they don't bother themselves to read adequately before attempting something new, they will rightfully suffer whatever the consequences and have only themselves to blame.

It is nice of you to drop in once in a while from your primary thread, Trading Made Simple, and tell us what we should do and how things "really" are, but we are not running a kindergarten here! Nor, do I see any evidence of such success over there, as our PVSRA users are having.

-tah
  • #50,112
  • Jun 1, 2013 1:48pm Jun 1, 2013 1:48pm
Quoting Msis125125
Closed 1000 pips today. TAH thank you, you are the man. Finally I am start getting what is Forex. http://gyazo.com/3e1a93cb78f97da943e4e36bd2b20a29

hey buddy,

that's greaty feeling to make 1000pips in just few days trading.
now you can go big time.
think of 10% return every 20 trading days with a trading capital of US$300k.

Good Luck.

regards,
EMMANUEL
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #50,113
  • Jun 1, 2013 2:12pm Jun 1, 2013 2:12pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} The Sonic R. System, PVSRA and Money Management Hi emmanuel7788, Both Master Sonicdeejay and I wholeheartedly agree that money management is very important in trading. The fact that taking up to ten positions that are one tenth the size of whatever has previously been the habit of a trader, and even taking them when price is going in the "wrong" direction, can typically result in half the risk of one large single position trade, does not negate the importance of money management. The questions are, how many times does this have to be stated,...
TAH,

My post was adrressed to Sonic himself the founder and owner of this thread and his SonicR system. I visit this thread mainly to read his posts and pick on his wisdom and his experience which he shares with all members and visitors.
There is no need for you to read my posts since you had put me in your ignore list.
There is not need for you to reply my post in the way you just did above.
You do not know me and you made assumption that I do not read this thread.
This is Forex Factory and people will come and go as they please.
Why waste your time keeping track of what I do here in Forex Factory and you make comparison other threads and your PVSRA experiment.
Why not spend your time and be more patient with new members asking questions and helping them.
Remember my post and I asked if your are a Christian. You did not respond to that simple post. Why bother to reply this one which is not addreessed to you.
Why don't you bless all the people all the time with patience and gentleness and kindness in your replies and posts.
Why all the rudeness, blunt telling members off when they post some innocent question like any beginner and first-timer would.
It is a lot easier to be nice to all people all the time.

Here is my pic for you to comply with sonic' " No Pic No Post" policy.

It is weekend and time for reflection. And if you are a Christian it is time for Church.

Regards,
EMMANUEL
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  • Jun 1, 2013 2:21pm Jun 1, 2013 2:21pm
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  • Jun 1, 2013 2:30pm Jun 1, 2013 2:30pm
Quoting Providence
{quote} I am quite new in the forum but I have found the posts very interesting, the sonic dj works well with short term momentum ess. given the moving average base it has that makes sense and ..tah,s approach however is much more like a directional FX trader, naturally involves more risk but its life..everything else also looks great but I just have one issue I am an ex FX broker for market makers in G10 currencies and technically this really is not how it works.. market makers are way too many in numbers in stuff like EURUSD and they sure dont...

Hello Providence,

I am just catching up reading this thread and notice this being your very first post in this thread.

It is good to read from someone who works in this industry and sharing this sort of information about what goes on in there. This is professional knowledge and is valuable information for retail traders trading the market on part-time basis.

Good post. Thank you.

Regards,
EMMANUEL
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  • Jun 1, 2013 2:48pm Jun 1, 2013 2:48pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Hi Sonic, Good advice to sonicr traders .... no tight stops. But I see many members here now trade with sonicr with pvsra experiment without stop loss and averaging down addidin to losing positions and making lots of pips. The many posts by members reporting huge profits in thousand pips sure is attracting many new traders like ants to sugar. You should explain this to new traders coming on board this thread about money management and the importance of momey management in trading sonicr the way your would trade sonicr and the difference...
Quoting traderathome
{quote} The Sonic R. System, PVSRA and Money Management Hi emmanuel7788, Both Master Sonicdeejay and I wholeheartedly agree that money management is very important in trading. The fact that taking up to ten positions that are one tenth the size of whatever has previously been the habit of a trader, and even taking them when price is going in the "wrong" direction, can typically result in half the risk of one large single position trade, does not negate the importance of money management. The questions are, how many times does this have to be stated,...
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} TAH, My post was adrressed to Sonic himself the founder and owner of this thread and his SonicR system. I visit this thread mainly to read his posts and pick on his wisdom and his experience which he shares with all members and visitors. There is no need for you to read my posts since you had put me in your ignore list. There is not need for you to reply my post in the way you just did above. You do not know me and you made assumption that I do not read this thread. This is Forex Factory and people will come and go as they please. Why waste...
Quoting emmanuel7788
Now here is a pic of that post #38,396 for traderathome: {image}
emmanuel7788,

I will tell you, and all who read this, why I responded to your post the way I did. It is because the Sonic R. System is not your system. You have another thread which you primarily co-habitate with, which is fine. What is not fine is you coming in "occassionally" and telling us what to do and passing off your view of the markets as gospel.

You don't tell Master Sonicdeejay what he should do, and you don't tell me what I should do, either. You could be a Sonicer yourself, and spend your time here doing those things which you prefer to just drop in and tell others to do.

Yes, I am a Christian. Abidence in God's Word, which He holds higher than His own name, is more than going to church, my fellow Christian.
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  • Jun 1, 2013 2:53pm Jun 1, 2013 2:53pm
Quoting Providence
{quote} be nice guys I only joined so I could write that, otehrwise you dont have to be a member to read.. so I have been watching and I didnt say anything negative, quite the contrary.. I like the systems both.. just tried to help the people understand how the real market works but I guess that was not well taken..ask a broker friend or someone who has worked at a bank or financial institution at some point, they will explain how this is true.. thats all I can say to help, since constructive critism is not taken well with the forum I wont post...

Providence,

Don't go. Stick around and share more from what you know in this industry.
Too many good people left this thread already. In order for SonicR system to succeed and find light at the end of the tunnel, there is need to have more views to be shared here in this open forum. There is room for believers and non-believers here. What is needed is mutual respect for one another and no name calling whatsoever.
PVSRA as I see has some merits in how to interpret those volumes in lower timeframes and like Sonic said, we assumed MM term being used here that MMs are bulls and bears.
There is no holy grail in forex trading. There never was , and never will be one. Nothing comes close to being a holy grail because the market is dynamic. The market is about the world economies, businesses and lots of other factors which we may not be comprehesive to cover all. It is just complex.

Good post_1 by you and look forward to learn from your sharing here. Remember Sonic philosophy " Sharing is Caring".

Regards,
EMMANUEL
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  • Jun 1, 2013 3:01pm Jun 1, 2013 3:01pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} {quote} {quote} emmanuel7788, I will tell you, and all who read this, why I responded to your post the way I did. It is because the Sonic R. System is not your system. You have another thread which you primarily co-habitate with, which is fine. What is not fine is you coming in "occassionally" and telling us what to do and passing off your view of the markets as gospel. You don't tell Master Sonicdeejay what he should do, and you don't tell me what I should do, either. You could be a Sonicer yourself, and spend your time here doing...

TAH,

I am happy to learn now that you and I share the same Christian faith.
Let us be the role model of what our relgion teaches.
As one Christian brother to another, I see from reading your replies that you need some help. I suggest you seek help for a turaround.
If you live in the US, try this :
See pic.
Katie Bryon has her website and books to read too. Just recommendation and not telling your what to do.

Be Blessed.

EMMANUEL

Edit: add website link
http://www.thework.com/index.php
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  • Jun 1, 2013 3:17pm Jun 1, 2013 3:17pm
Quoting Islander
{quote} Its Market_Statistics_v5_0 and I posted it a couple of weeks ago. Click on the blue paper clip on the top right of each page and look 2 / 3 pages back in the File Attachments.... I closed that early €J sell that I took got for a few pips after the 1 min HL. As Sonic reminds us, entries before the London Open are less reliable. Here, UJ also had an hourly PVP level and 50% retrace around its 102.25 level which it has now hit, pulled €J up to its 132 level and I sold there after a 1m head & shoulders at that level...
Many thanks Islander.
  • #50,120
  • Jun 1, 2013 3:40pm Jun 1, 2013 3:40pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} TAH, I am happy to learn now that you and I share the same Christian faith. Let us be the role model of what our relgion teaches. As one Christian brother to another, I see from reading your replies that you need some help. I suggest you seek help for a turaround. If you live in the US, try this : See pic. Katie Bryon has her website and books to read too. Just recommendation and not telling your what to do. Be Blessed. EMMANUEL Edit: add website link http://www.thework.com/index.php {image}
emmanuel7788,

You profess to be a Christian. I can accept that. The question is whether you are a practicing Christian. Only you and God know the answer.

This is not a religious forum and this is not the Trading Made Easy thread. This is the Sonic R. System thread. You have the nasty habit of dropping in only from time to time, pretending to be an authority on both the Sonic R. System, as well as the market, and continuously taking "shots" at me. And you continuously refer to the names of some others that have left as being successful traders. They might not be.

For over a very long time I have been here. This is my home for trading. For a very long time I have posted my trades, real -time postings. Over the years some have criticized my trades, like I was not to have the same right to make mistakes as others. I have made trading mistakes, but I posted them right along with the others. Some have accused the trades as being false. I have pointed to the fact they were posted real-time, both entries and exits. So, unless I have the power to make the outcome in the market to be whatever it needed to be in order for my trades to come out good, they were not false. Some accuse I don't make money. I post trades real-time, both entries and exits. And that is all that needs to be said on this. It is an easy thing to do, but very few others have the courage to do it on a regular and ongoing basis. To my knowledge, I have set the example on all of Forex Factory. And this might be one reason for the success of this thread. And because I have set the example, the Sonic R. System thread has more traders posting trades real-time than on any other Forex Factory thread!

My views on the market have also come under criticism. I use the term "MMs". Sonic uses the term "Big Boys". We have both used the term "SM". And it is totally unimportant what "label" we use to refer to those with the amount of money and will to use it to move prices, in order to simplify our postings. As one who posts here infrequently, you have not experienced the workload to which I am referring. It is, therefore, easy for you to be an "armchair critic".

-tah
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