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  • #49,781
  • May 28, 2013 4:32am May 28, 2013 4:32am
For those who cannot understand VSA!

Watch this guy's youtube videos. All of them. There are a very very good examples too. He's teaching is very simple and understandable.
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After watching the videos, I believe that beginners will get much better understandings of PVSRA too
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #49,782
  • May 28, 2013 4:47am May 28, 2013 4:47am
Quoting loeil
For those who cannot understand VSA! Watch this guy's youtube videos. All of them. There are a very very good examples too. He's teaching is very simple and understandable.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBQCBnM7SqY After watching the videos, I believe that beginners will get much better understandings of PVSRA too
Thanks loeil, I have seen many videos of petefaders and its very interesting, but his system make a different VSA analysis, candle to candle, right?
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  • #49,783
  • May 28, 2013 4:48am May 28, 2013 4:48am
EU:

PVSRA supported Classic long setup. Just be informed that the US MMs might pull price back to enhance their own trade entry.
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  • #49,784
  • May 28, 2013 4:52am May 28, 2013 4:52am
GU:

PVSRA supported Classic long entry. Here too, the US MMs might pull price back down to enhance their own trade entry.
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  • #49,785
  • May 28, 2013 5:04am May 28, 2013 5:04am
Quoting fex
{quote}Thanks loeil, I have seen many videos of petefaders and its very interesting, but his system make a different VSA analysis, candle to candle, right?
Yeah but I think that candles tells us very valuable information. Anyway I got a good information from these videos and I suggest to watch beginners too. After watching these I got the basics principles for trading and understanding Sonic PVSRA.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #49,786
  • May 28, 2013 5:11am May 28, 2013 5:11am
Quoting traderathome
EU: PVSRA supported Classic long setup. Just be informed that the US MMs might pull price back to enhance their own trade entry. {image}

looking bullish to me.as well..


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  • #49,787
  • Edited 5:24am May 28, 2013 5:13am | Edited 5:24am
UJ: Something Different

Stalking this for a short. Regardless of entry TF, I'm looking for price to drop thru whole number for entry. See how trading increased; for the trip up and continued thereafter. To me, this says the banks pumped the price to enable shorting at higher prices.

H1 shows trading dropped off after the banks pumped price to the highs, which has me thinking they are waiting for the US banks to repump, one more opportunity for them to short at the highs before running prices lower for profits. So, I'm holding out to see what happens when the US session opens.
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  • #49,788
  • May 28, 2013 5:16am May 28, 2013 5:16am
Quoting traderathome
{quote}That is an external input, so you can change the colors yourself. Or, just reduce the thickness of the green line to make it less prominent. Or increase the thickness of the blue line to make it more prominent. Or...... ........have another glass of scotch!
Scotch for breakfast?!!!!!?

If I started doing that, I'd be having more trouble than seeing the colors.

I wouldn't even be able to see the LINES!!!! hahaha

By the way, I was aware I could change the colors myself, but I was thinking
of the "greater good" - no matter how insignificant the request was.

  • #49,789
  • May 28, 2013 5:18am May 28, 2013 5:18am
Quoting fex
@ TAHThanks, then I understand my analysis is correct. @ArtfulDodgerBut if I wait for TL indicate the direction it may be too late for a scout, right? Supposedly PVSRA system allows anticipate the intentions of the MM ... In any case it may be too soon ...
My comment was aimed more at preventing the need for multiple entries on the way up as we
await the actual profit taking move down.

The safer, the better I say!

  • #49,790
  • May 28, 2013 5:24am May 28, 2013 5:24am
Yes ArtfulDodger, you're right, now I'm just practicing PVSRA because I find it difficult to recognize the phases of building/runprofit, and bull/bear candles in PVSRA.
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  • #49,791
  • May 28, 2013 5:26am May 28, 2013 5:26am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} Scotch for breakfast?!!!!!? If I started doing that, I'd be having more trouble than seeing the colors. I wouldn't even be able to see the LINES!!!! hahaha By the way, I was aware I could change the colors myself, but I was thinkingof the "greater good" - no matter how insignificant the request was.
I think the greater good is for you to have that glass of scotch!
  • #49,792
  • May 28, 2013 5:35am May 28, 2013 5:35am
Quoting traderathome
{quote}I think the greater good is for you to have that glass of scotch!
Hahaha...who am I to argue....pour it up! (you are buying, aren't you?)

  • #49,793
  • May 28, 2013 5:43am May 28, 2013 5:43am
Quoting fex
Yes ArtfulDodger, you're right, now I'm just practicing PVSRA because I find it difficult to recognize the phases of building/runprofit, and bull/bear candles in PVSRA.
Fex, be sure and take my comments with a grain of salt.

I'm far from being an expert in PVSRA - still trying to get a handle on it myself!

My intent is to just present my thoughts on the subject at the time.

  • #49,794
  • May 28, 2013 5:52am May 28, 2013 5:52am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} Fex, be sure and take my comments with a grain of salt. I'm far from being an expert in PVSRA - still trying to get a handle on it myself! My intent is to just present my thoughts on the subject at the time.
Well, I know. I think I'm more lost than you , but I hope one day we can make more reliable predictions. I want to learn PVSRA for 2 reasons: 1) I do not think that those who win more money (MM) make one single position in your investments -> building positions, and 2) I do not think that real investors buy at high prices and sell at low (that's what I do, not them ).

To say this I rely on logic, since I have no knowledge of the markets.
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  • #49,795
  • May 28, 2013 5:57am May 28, 2013 5:57am
Quoting fex
{quote}Well, I know. I think I'm more lost than you , but I hope one day we can make more reliable predictions. I want to learn PVSRA for 2 reasons: 1) I do not think that those who win more money (MM) make one single position in your investments -> building positions, and 2) I do not think that real investors buy at high prices and sell at low (that's what I do, not them ). To say this I rely on logic, since I have no knowledge of the markets.
I'm with you on BOTH items!

I do believe in PVSRA too. That's why I like to refer to it as "the wave of the future."
We just need to learn how to ride them.

Catchy huh?!!!?

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  • #49,796
  • Edited 6:33am May 28, 2013 6:02am | Edited 6:33am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} I'm with you on BOTH items! I do believe in PVSRA too. That's why I like to refer to it as "the wave of the future." Catchy huh?!!!?
PVSRA, the Wave of the Future

Yeah, ArtfulDodger! Catchy. Sounds like a good "signature" to me. If you don't use it, may I?

It is easy to catch the wave. Riding it thru all the MMs price manipulation detours to the eventual profit, well that is more difficult.

Seems this surfer can't get there! He keeps getting stopped out before the run for profits, and has to try again, and again, and again...!
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  • #49,797
  • May 28, 2013 6:26am May 28, 2013 6:26am
EU:

US open MMs (stinking banks) might pull price back down briefly for their own enhanced entries. Certainly, if price breaks up thru half number afterwards, we can look forward to a nice run during the week, well past RDH.
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  • #49,798
  • May 28, 2013 6:48am May 28, 2013 6:48am
Quoting traderathome
{quote}PVSRA, the Wave of the Future Yeah, ArtfulDodger! Catchy. Sounds like a good "signature" to me. If you don't use it, may I? It is easy to catch the wave. Riding it thru all the MMs price manipulation detours to the eventual profit, well that is more difficult. Seems this surfer can't get there! He keeps getting stopped out before the run for profits, and has to try again, and again, and again...! {image}
Very observant tah! Stopped out every time....that must be ME!

When I came up with that "signature" I had you in mind. You are welcome
to it (send the necessary documents and I'll sign off on it). This wasn't the
first time I've mentioned it. Just the first time it caught your eye!

You are the creator of PVSRA - the signature belongs in your able hands.



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  • #49,799
  • May 28, 2013 7:09am May 28, 2013 7:09am
I have some doubts...
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  • #49,800
  • May 28, 2013 7:33am May 28, 2013 7:33am
Quoting fex
I have some doubts... {image}
fex,

Consider the possibility the London MMs will buy until they have driven the price too high, at which time they'd have to manipulate the price back down. Now, sometimes these MMs plan on the US MMs wanting in at low prices, so they buy up until the price is too high and might let the US MMs do the work of taking the price back to nice lows. The "big" buying you see at highs is just the culmination of buying and deciding the price is too high to go further at the time.

Wait and see if the US MMs drag price back down, and if they do, do they also increase trading once they get the price lower.
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