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  • #798,661
  • May 16, 2013 12:21pm May 16, 2013 12:21pm
Quoting forexings
Kicked advance bearish b*tt what was moaning to move more down without securing topside. I won't be surprise if this is the end of bear for now.

I don't know... weird things happen all the time, and the market is very unexpected but...

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  • #798,662
  • May 16, 2013 12:27pm May 16, 2013 12:27pm
Quoting Likerty
{quote} Did anything changed in econ data since last BB speach that could give a reason for a doubt about QE?
just the usual jawbone action by lesser Fed heads and minions in the financial press.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #798,663
  • May 16, 2013 12:33pm May 16, 2013 12:33pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} Well I was referring about the institution and CBS as monetary policy perspective. Oh sure agree with you GS, JPM & friends have more tentacles than octopus in key levels everywhere in the world from the Minister of Finances in xxx Coutries (better not say much) to the highest level in office in Washington, London, BOE or FED...oh that's for sure Gator, that is "normal", but is nothing to do with monetary policy or CBs. susse
not correct. Greenspan interfered with regulation... and there were bailouts long before Bear and S, because of this.. the system had a crises no different then 2008 because of Allen G.. some warned of it, beforehand Allen G and others including Paulson stood in front of congress and basically said the warners were crazy. and it happened, just like predicted. and paulson and AG got all the large banks to bail out the weak or they crashed too.. AG also was there when the savings and loan banks crashed.. and that's why we have the mega banks today.. the ones who brought down the system
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #798,664
  • May 16, 2013 12:39pm May 16, 2013 12:39pm
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  • #798,665
  • May 16, 2013 12:42pm May 16, 2013 12:42pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} not correct. Greenspan interfered with regulation... and there were bailouts long before Bear and S, because of this.. the system had a crises no different then 2008 because of Allen G.. some warned of it, beforehand Allen G and others including Paulson stood in front of congress and basically said the warners were crazy. and it happened, just like predicted. and paulson and AG got all the large banks to bail out the weak or they crashed too.. AG also was there when the savings and loan banks crashed.. and that's why we have the mega banks...
They were part of the problem but not the causes. Selling derivatives of the derivetes of the derivates of already collapsed subprime mortgages from people with McDonals salaries failing to paid the second half of a million dollar house ... the bastards won and by far the guilty prize in that crisis.

Sometimes crisis started by Governments like in the inter World War period, sometimes are CB like in 70's but this time have a CLEAR NAME and LAST NAME stamped on the guilty form...

sisse
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  • #798,666
  • May 16, 2013 12:44pm May 16, 2013 12:44pm
I also see the possibilities, so I guess 85-87 has just become important..


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  • #798,667
  • May 16, 2013 12:45pm May 16, 2013 12:45pm
GBP has showen nice UP move today just look - beautiful )
  • #798,668
  • May 16, 2013 12:45pm May 16, 2013 12:45pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} They were part of problem but not the causes. Selling derivatives of the derivetes of the derivates of already collapsed subprime mortgages from people with McDonals salaries failing to paid the second half of a million dollar house ... the bastard won and by far the price in that crisis. Sometimes are Governments like in the inter WW period, sometimes are CB like in 70's but this time have a CLEAR NAME and LAST NAME stamped pn the guilty form... sisse
ok lets look at this... when did this happen? and who went in front congress and said it was ok, before the crash, years before? in this case we know what came before the egg.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #798,669
  • May 16, 2013 12:51pm May 16, 2013 12:51pm
Guys, your opinion - will we pullback to 1.2920 today?
I've not closed longs yet...
  • #798,670
  • May 16, 2013 12:51pm May 16, 2013 12:51pm
I am a Central Bank hater.
1) CBs ARE bubble enablers. They do create bubbles.
Central bank interventions on the markets creates price distortions.
Those price distortions then funel investors and corporations money to the wrong things.
Then those things create bubble jobs. (think of housing on USA)
Then when the bubble burst all those jobs go away

2) Standart Central Bank policies are insignificant to help the economy
They can only print money and distort price signals that the markets give to investors, they supress real growth, they supress any chance of fair play.

3) Central Banks can't control anything even though they think they can.
Inflation is mainly created by human behaviour not the supply of money that the CBs create.

4) FED is just creating another bubble and waiting for the new bubble jobs to appear.
If cental banks start to buy bananas then the price of bananas will rise (price signal complety distorted), then investors will start to create bananas fields, a lots of jobs are going to be created for the banana fields.. there you go, you created a bubble and that jobless claims made another awesome beat!

5) Central Banks are one of the most evil things you could think of. too much power on a few, and its a form of dictactorship.
If you have talent to do something very good. You are out of luck becase no one will invest on you. not when the banana fields are so profitable.
"You're solid gold, see you in hell"
  • #798,671
  • May 16, 2013 12:52pm May 16, 2013 12:52pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} ok lets look at this... when did this happen? and who went in front congress and said it was ok, before the crash, years before? in this case we know what came before the egg.
hint AG
and HP
bbl
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #798,672
  • May 16, 2013 12:54pm May 16, 2013 12:54pm
Goldman "tweaks" EURUSD and USDJPY forecasts to 1.34 and 105 in 3 months
  • #798,673
  • May 16, 2013 12:58pm May 16, 2013 12:58pm
Will it or will it not? Ok, I'm talking too much. I prob. hat too much coffee..

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  • #798,674
  • May 16, 2013 1:02pm May 16, 2013 1:02pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} ok lets look at this... when did this happen? and who went in front congress and said it was ok, before the crash, years before? in this case we know what came before the egg.
Don't think I disagree with you that guys like Paulson abused the circumstances. Look politicians or public servants (a CB or a Treasury Secretary, etc are pulibc servants) were/are just tools (as usual but not always) in this, the real money and abuses made by the bastards was taking place in some other corridors and in the market. Politics and public servants are only useful to avoid regulation and overseen controls and abuses but the actual big damage was already done long time ago.

IMO, "forgetting" were was the initial cause of the problems and only "blaming the middle man" only perpetuate the bastards abuses:

Before the bubble: NO MORE regulation. Government out of financial markets, Private Financial markets rule, bla, bla
During the bubble: oh shit we need some allies in Government to help us keep going, some decent congress man start raising voices, other just align with the markets, A balance public a private intervention is good bla bla
Bubble burst: WE need the FED, Government bailouts, whatever it takes, we even cut our bonuses, government is good , banks and private money is the devil !!! bla bla bla
Bottom: Ok enough is enough. witch hunting start. "I told/warn you first" game start .... We don't like Governments and control but we still need public money to make a killer ....
Recovery: NO MORE regulation. Government out of financial markets, bla bla...

Rinse and repeat ...Whoever call it first it burst, it is irrelevant in my view. Bastard knew exactly from minute one to end what was going on ...

sisse
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  • #798,675
  • May 16, 2013 1:07pm May 16, 2013 1:07pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} Don't think I disagree with you that guys like Paulson abused the circumstances. Look politicians or public servants (a CB or a Treasury Secretary, etc are pulibc servants) were/are just tools (as usual but not always) in this, the real money and abuses made by the bastards was taking place in some other corridors and in the market. Politics and public servants are only useful to avoid regulation and overseen controls and abuses but the actual big damage was already done long time ago. IMO, "forgetting" were was the initial cause of the...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...st-plain-silly
  • #798,676
  • May 16, 2013 1:12pm May 16, 2013 1:12pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} Don't think I disagree with you that guys like Paulson abused the circumstances. Look politicians or public servants (a CB or a Treasury Secretary, etc are pulibc servants) were/are just tools (as usual but not always) in this, the real money and abuses made by the bastards was taking place in some other corridors and in the market. Politics and public servants are only useful to avoid regulation and overseen controls and abuses but the actual big damage was already done long time ago. IMO, "forgetting" were was the initial cause of the...
i dont know about that.. i was commenting on AG and BB And the others Treshit and dragass not being as good as lead to believe.
they all got blood on their hands..
if they helped the law to allow a 15 year old to drink and drive.. dont be mad when a 15 year old drinks and drives and kills your family. blaming the 15 year old is pretty lame.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #798,677
  • May 16, 2013 1:14pm May 16, 2013 1:14pm
I don't know even know what this Sisse is on about.. before bubble, after bubble, who are those lines ? public opinion? banks? I think you mixed up
"You're solid gold, see you in hell"
  • #798,678
  • May 16, 2013 1:18pm May 16, 2013 1:18pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} i dont know about that.. i was commenting on AG and BB And the others Treshit and dragass not being as good as lead to believe. they all got blood on their hands.. if they helped the law to allow a 15 year old to drink and drive.. dont be mad when a 15 year old drinks and drives and kills your family. blaming the 15 year old us pretty lame.
I think especially Trichet was brilliant.

They do what they are hire to do. Without Trichet the euro should have disappeared years ago. i judge them for what they are hire to do (controlling inflation and in the case of the FED pumping the economy from the monetary side too) not for what I would want them to do or for saving the world and finding the cure for all economic problems.

sisse
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  • #798,679
  • May 16, 2013 1:21pm May 16, 2013 1:21pm
Quoting sisse
{quote} I think especially Trichet was brilliant. They do what they are hire to do. Without Trichet the euro should have disappeared years ago. i judge them for what they are hire to do (controlling inflation and in the case of the FED pumping the economy from the monetary side too) not for what I would want them to do or for saving the world and finding the cure for all economic problems. sisse
lets kid ourselves. before 911 the euro was trash and heading that way.. then the fed started the presses. a monkey could have done that job.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #798,680
  • May 16, 2013 1:21pm May 16, 2013 1:21pm
Quoting SugarPink
I don't know even know what this Sisse is on about.. before bubble, after bubble, who are those lines ? public opinion? banks? I think you mixed up
you haven't been around much I see.. when sisse talks, you better keep quiet and learn.
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