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  • #798,221
  • May 15, 2013 3:50pm May 15, 2013 3:50pm
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} Plateform gap...not even looking at it, just a fuck up from your broker.
3 different ecn feeds have a "fuck up" at that level

From experience those "fuck ups" often gets revisited
And off course its not really a "fuck up" its a price where trading didnt happen because prices moved to fast.

Also "normal" brokers dont have a gap there because as you should know normal brokers make the market you trade in
  • #798,222
  • May 15, 2013 4:02pm May 15, 2013 4:02pm
I think there's one more leg down. They're in the habit to start/end a trend with Asia. We'll see if it plays out.
  • #798,223
  • May 15, 2013 4:05pm May 15, 2013 4:05pm
Quoting Pip Anon
{quote} That's fine. I tend to call this conversing over a chart. Brain storming, idea tree? That's all.
It could be I dont norally brainstorm about these things but just trying to help another feller out
Know when to hold em, Know when to fold em!
  • #798,224
  • May 15, 2013 4:05pm May 15, 2013 4:05pm
Quoting attila
{quote} I know man... I have a masters in CS. What I think that is, is more like PA/Chart analysis. They sell a lot of those for 39.99.. Just kidding. What the real alogs do, the HFT ones we all fear (), use math for defining the models.. The kind of math you can find in this book or similar. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Man that's pretty cool. I will be taking a C++ course next semester. I wanna get a good understanding of programming. I just thought the article was nifty lol. I think it was more of calculating the HS points more than anything.

Have you found one language more beneficial or widely used opposed to another?
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #798,225
  • May 15, 2013 4:07pm May 15, 2013 4:07pm
Quoting goods
{quote} It could be I dont norally brainstorm about these things but just trying to help another feller out
I know bro lol. I just always brainstorm and look at new opportunities, strategies and whatnot or even old shite in new ways lol. I just like to analyze - sometimes too much
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #798,226
  • May 15, 2013 4:19pm May 15, 2013 4:19pm
Quoting Pip Anon
{quote} Man that's pretty cool. I will be taking a C++ course next semester. I wanna get a good understanding of programming. I just thought the article was nifty lol. I think it was more of calculating the HS points more than anything. Have you found one language more beneficial or widely used opposed to another?
Trading industry uses C++ almost exclusively (or C for older systems). C++ is a loaded gun in the hands of uninitiated as it gives you the option to manipulate individual memory locations. That is good and bad in the same time. If you don't pay attention you can run memory leaks or try to access restricted areas (when your program) will get a fault signal and burn. Anyway, C++ was chosen at the time when Java was slow. That's not the case anymore. Java is more user friendly as all these nuts and bolts are hidden from you. Also, Java benefits a lot from the open source libraries. You need some piece of functionality? Chances are somebody wrote it already. Just rip it off and plug it in. So I prefer Java.. it's kind of Joe of all trades. If you look for speed and be the cream of the crop, then C++, but here's the question. You gain a slight advantage, but you'll lose that over the wires, unless you place your server in the basement of CME or NYSE buildings.

If you're looking for statistics functionality, then R language or S-Plus.. And btw there are wrappers Java->R and R->Java, so you can encapsulate that piece and use it from your main program.
  • #798,227
  • May 15, 2013 4:30pm May 15, 2013 4:30pm
Quoting attila
{quote} Trading industry uses C++ almost exclusively (or C for older systems). C++ is a loaded gun in the hands of uninitiated as it gives you the option to manipulate individual memory locations. That is good and bad in the same time. If you don't pay attention you can run memory leaks or try to access restricted areas (when your program) will get a fault signal and burn. Anyway, C++ was chosen at the time when Java was slow. That's not the case anymore. Java is more user friendly as all these nuts and bolts are hidden from you. Also, Java benefits...
Thanks The complexity intrigues me. I will be graduating in 16 months, and a lot of potential work wants at least some experience in programming. If I use it for my personal programming or work, I think it is beneficial either way.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #798,228
  • May 15, 2013 4:36pm May 15, 2013 4:36pm
Quoting Pip Anon
{quote} The complexity intrigues me..
If you get deep into this stuff then you'll get plenty of that.. From the theoretical point of view, take a look at this.. That will intrigue you... Things you need to consider when you right your algos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computa...plexity_theory

you can branch from that page. NP Complete is something that fascinates me...
  • #798,229
  • May 15, 2013 4:38pm May 15, 2013 4:38pm
Quoting attila
{quote} If you get deep into this stuff then you'll get plenty of that.. From the theoretical point of view, take a look at this.. That will intrigue you... Things you need to consider when you right your algos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computa...plexity_theory you can branch from that page. NP Complete is something that fascinates me...
Thanks attila. Looking forward to it!
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #798,230
  • May 15, 2013 4:47pm May 15, 2013 4:47pm
Quoting attila
{quote} Trading industry uses C++ almost exclusively (or C for older systems). C++ is a loaded gun in the hands of uninitiated as it gives you the option to manipulate individual memory locations. That is good and bad in the same time. If you don't pay attention you can run memory leaks or try to access restricted areas (when your program) will get a fault signal and burn. Anyway, C++ was chosen at the time when Java was slow. That's not the case anymore. Java is more user friendly as all these nuts and bolts are hidden from you. Also, Java benefits...
To all the newbies, this is the man to learn from, wide knowledge, great levels, standing solid on the ground, yet always humble, really respect. always like to read your posts
  • #798,231
  • May 15, 2013 4:49pm May 15, 2013 4:49pm
Quoting BlueGas
{quote} To all the newbies, this is the man to learn from, wide knowledge, great levels, standing solid on the ground, yet always humble, really respect. always like to read your posts
that's when I don't lose it with jerks, as I did today.
  • #798,232
  • May 15, 2013 4:55pm May 15, 2013 4:55pm
Quoting attila
{quote} that's when I don't lose it with jerks, as I did today.


How is you?
  • #798,233
  • May 15, 2013 4:58pm May 15, 2013 4:58pm
Quoting attila
{quote} that's when I don't lose it with jerks, as I did today.
i got 20 pips from 2890, then also added a bit and then left 10 pip stop, so slightly in +0 and currently holding long from 2861, some off 2885, but been bit stupborn on 2890, tricking myself, also 2 bad ones where i didnt leave my original stop and was stopped out be, what kinda stops do you use attila, like if i look on 4h timeframe im looking for no more then 20-30 pips, and most likely scale down to minimize it, sometimes even -5 pips seems more then enough, either your idea is right or it isnt
  • #798,234
  • May 15, 2013 5:00pm May 15, 2013 5:00pm
Quoting BlueGas
{quote} To all the newbies, this is the man to learn from, wide knowledge, great levels, standing solid on the ground, yet always humble, really respect. always like to read your posts
I'm a newbie and have great respect for attilia. I think I might be in love...
  • #798,235
  • May 15, 2013 5:05pm May 15, 2013 5:05pm
Quoting JediTradeWar
{quote} I'm a newbie and have great respect for attilia. I think I might be in love...
Hey, hey.. . Gotta run pick up the kid.

Hi mr. Hatch.
  • #798,236
  • May 15, 2013 5:06pm May 15, 2013 5:06pm
Quoting JediTradeWar
{quote} I'm a newbie and have great respect for attilia. I think I might be in love...
  • #798,237
  • May 15, 2013 5:10pm May 15, 2013 5:10pm
Quoting BlueGas
{quote}
Oops. Okay. I might go outside and drive some wiffle golf balls, hehe
  • #798,238
  • May 15, 2013 5:16pm May 15, 2013 5:16pm
Quoting attila
{quote} Hey, hey.. . Gotta run pick up the kid. Hi mr. Hatch.
Bye
  • #798,239
  • May 15, 2013 5:26pm May 15, 2013 5:26pm
Quoting JediTradeWar
{quote} Oops. Okay. I might go outside and drive some wiffle golf balls, hehe
Might be. Jedi, hows your trading war goin on?
  • #798,240
  • May 15, 2013 5:46pm May 15, 2013 5:46pm
Quoting BlueGas
{quote} Might be. Jedi, hows your trading war goin on?
Pretty good. Shorted from 3040 got in a bit late. TP at 1pm CST at double tap
2855
Risked a long and got lucky in a short again from
2885
I finally got on track, took me a week lol.
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