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  • #48,541
  • May 10, 2013 3:14am May 10, 2013 3:14am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UJ Short Trade: Added short trade #5, Scout. M1 PVSRA shows the MMs moved price above 3/4 S&R and increased trading, indicating they are bears moving price higher to short. {image}
UJ Short Trade:

Added short trade #6, Scout.
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  • #48,542
  • May 10, 2013 3:26am May 10, 2013 3:26am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} {quote} {quote} {quote} {quote} GU Short Trade: Closed all eight short trades for 100x8= 800 pips gain, average EPx8 to close at TP1. {image}

But Professor TAH,

Newbies will see the pips only...They will not understand what great danger they will have to walk through to achieve this..
So,, WARN as you teach.. okies..

and I like your honestly on JPY pair.

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As far as I can see, you are in paper loss/draw down 82*6 = 492 pips now..


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Sonic
  • #48,543
  • May 10, 2013 3:28am May 10, 2013 3:28am
Prof.TAH, I am wondering you both short EU and UJ. So you mean E strongest,J going middle, U in weakest .

I just found that when EU up, UJ down?
Smile, Breath, and Go slowly
  • #48,544
  • May 10, 2013 3:28am May 10, 2013 3:28am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} NIce reward after great risk.. I hope n I m ok, as long as u know what u r doing and pls do remind of other sonikers of possible snowballing double edged effects.. Sonic
Im curious what lot size and account size is required.
In each pair multiple positions lead to drawdown totalling at least >1000pips.
On a microlot that is -$100.

Assuming reward is a 1000pips.
For waiting time of 9-15days per trade on a 1:1 reward ratio.

If like the JPY is >3000pips draw down its -$300 and a 0.3:1 reward ratio

There needs to be hard numbers behind this PVSRA.

And if a black swan subprime related event happens where valuations in 2008 are miles away in 2009
you should hold until 2013 to make it back to initial TP point?

So minimum you need $1000 account size expecting 3000 pip drawdown only on a single pair trading only 1 microlot per entry.

Moreover something i will add is at least 10-15pips gap between entries.

This needs to be spelt out to anyone embarking on PVSRA.

Anything less than a thousand means you will get margin called before you get to profit release.
  • #48,545
  • May 10, 2013 3:29am May 10, 2013 3:29am
Quoting tule
Hi Sonic, thanks you for share your Bankai =D. I just trade in demo for 5 day and feel very comfortable with your system. But now I just read for 28 page from this thread begin , I will try to catch up with you guy ( more than 2k page >"< ). Next week I will post my entry ( demo ) with pic , hope you guys help me to control Sonic R. Sytem . P/s Sorry about my bad english skill. Good weekend guys !

Arrh,, Yea..

Bankai...

Skip forward.. Read last 50~100 pips of the forum..

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  • #48,546
  • May 10, 2013 3:33am May 10, 2013 3:33am
I am seeing,,, some possible weakness in JPY pairs...EJ for instance..
Bullish trend is still strong and it is Friday ... so gotta be hawk and careful..

Sonic
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  • #48,547
  • May 10, 2013 3:39am May 10, 2013 3:39am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} But Professor TAH, Newbies will see the pips only...They will not understand what great danger they will have to walk through to achieve this.. So,, WARN as you teach.. okies.. and I like your honestly on JPY pair. {image} As far as I can see, you are in paper loss/draw down 82*6 = 492 pips now.. {image} Sonic
there needs to be a post on his account.
how much money do you need to trade this system.
is any real money behind this system.
i love how Master Sonic posts his account. gives me confidence people are putting real money.
n i have posted my Saxobank statement too on the EJ trade.

if you have $100,000. this system works really well. because you just fire away whenever you see a volume bar. you will be trading not microlot(1,000), not mini lot(10,000) but a standard lot(100,000) on a single pair. paying you for the time you spent waiting, in drawdown,paying rollover swaps and locked up capital.
  • #48,548
  • May 10, 2013 3:52am May 10, 2013 3:52am


EJ badly hurt me and ruined my weekend..


not trades today
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  • #48,549
  • May 10, 2013 4:04am May 10, 2013 4:04am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} But Professor TAH, Newbies will see the pips only...They will not understand what great danger they will have to walk through to achieve this.. So,, WARN as you teach.. okies.. and I like your honestly on JPY pair. {image} As far as I can see, you are in paper loss/draw down 82*6 = 492 pips now.. {image} Sonic
Newbies are newbies, nothing can save as ^_^
Everyone can see how aggressive this style of trading. And i rememeber dozen of warnings from TAH. This could lead at deep water.

EURUSD shorting: dragon angled down, PA below it. I`m splitting my entries in parts as for scouts and already have closed one at 1.3. All others put at be.
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  • #48,550
  • May 10, 2013 4:22am May 10, 2013 4:22am
Quoting nicoacademia
{quote} there needs to be a post on his account. how much money do you need to trade this system. is any real money behind this system. i love how Master Sonic posts his account. gives me confidence people are putting real money. n i have posted my Saxobank statement too on the EJ trade. if you have $100,000. this system works really well. because you just fire away whenever you see a volume bar. you will be trading not microlot(1,000), not mini lot(10,000) but a standard lot(100,000) on a single pair. paying you for the time you spent waiting,...

nicoacademia,

I love when people talk about trading with real money.
You are from $ingapore.... $onic too....
when I grow up I want to come live in $ingapore...
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #48,551
  • May 10, 2013 4:27am May 10, 2013 4:27am
Quoting sonicdeejay
I am seeing,,, some possible weakness in JPY pairs...EJ for instance.. Bullish trend is still strong and it is Friday ... so gotta be hawk and careful.. Sonic {image}

it is approach weekend and G7 big guns having retreat meeting and will discuss who to give money to bail out next. Bernanke talking again today, print more dollars like Aso print more Yen.

Fear cause some people to exit their trades. Smart traders take profit and walk away, price backs down a little when they exits.

Greed will see sellers jump in,...Sell high, Sell tops, small SL at the tops, ...good place to sell.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #48,552
  • May 10, 2013 4:37am May 10, 2013 4:37am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} But Professor TAH, Newbies will see the pips only...They will not understand what great danger they will have to walk through to achieve this.. So,, WARN as you teach.. okies.. and I like your honestly on JPY pair. {image} As far as I can see, you are in paper loss/draw down 82*6 = 492 pips now.. {image} Sonic
I don't think master it is a big problem as TAH has said many times that if you want to build positions then use small lot i-e If you trade 1 lot on yen pair you have to put stop loss more then 100 pips that will be at least 1000$ but if you are building positions then you should use mini lot so 496 pips means 496$ so with proper money management you can get success with both classic sonic R and PVSRA.
  • #48,553
  • May 10, 2013 4:48am May 10, 2013 4:48am
Quoting sonicdeejay
I am seeing,,, some possible weakness in JPY pairs...EJ for instance.. Bullish trend is still strong and it is Friday ... so gotta be hawk and careful.. Sonic {image}
That would be nice. The band plays on but there may not be enough life boats.

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These yen pairs have shown up the issue with the way I and others have been using PVSRA is the inability to predict when MM's have finished and are about to initiate a run.
Katte, kabuto no o wo shime yo. Size doesn't matter, leverage is the killer
  • #48,554
  • May 10, 2013 4:48am May 10, 2013 4:48am
Quoting francus
{quote} EURUSD shorting: dragon angled down, PA below it. {image}
EURSUD short
added more shorts at retrace to 5m dragon. TP 1.296

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  • #48,555
  • May 10, 2013 4:55am May 10, 2013 4:55am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} But Professor TAH, Newbies will see the pips only...They will not understand what great danger they will have to walk through to achieve this.. So,, WARN as you teach.. okies.. and I like your honestly on JPY pair. {image} As far as I can see, you are in paper loss/draw down 82*6 = 492 pips now.. {image} Sonic
Sonicdeejay, with all due respect, I believe TAH has made every effort to emphasize the
need to use PVSRA in conjuction with small trades. He has been very visible with everything
he is doing. There is no way to "protect" someone from themselves. And in a forum such
as this, he would have to repeat himself every time he makes a post, and that's just not
feasible. It's up to each individual to investigate something further before they take any
action with their trades. If someone gets burned because they didn't make the effort
to fully understand what the results of their actions might be, they only have themselves
to blame. TAH is providing us with some valuable information, and it's certainly worth
studying what he is doing.

  • #48,556
  • May 10, 2013 5:01am May 10, 2013 5:01am
Quoting nicoacademia
{quote} there needs to be a post on his account. how much money do you need to trade this system. is any real money behind this system. i love how Master Sonic posts his account. gives me confidence people are putting real money. n i have posted my Saxobank statement too on the EJ trade. if you have $100,000. this system works really well. because you just fire away whenever you see a volume bar. you will be trading not microlot(1,000), not mini lot(10,000) but a standard lot(100,000) on a single pair. paying you for the time you spent waiting,...
Nicoacademia, TAH always refers to pips rather than currency amounts, because that is what
the target is. I'm not saying the money isn't important, but making reference to currency gains
could "put stars in the eyes" of some people, and cause them to blindly jump into something
with visions of great wealth flowling their way.

The currency involved is a reflection of what each person uses in their trade sizes. It's
somewhat irrelevant. Representing trades with pips gained or lossed is more transferrable to
everyone as a whole

  • #48,557
  • May 10, 2013 5:04am May 10, 2013 5:04am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} Sonicdeejay, with all due respect, I believe TAH has made every effort to emphasize the need to use PVSRA in conjuction with small trades. He has been very visible with everything he is doing. There is no way to "protect" someone from themselves. And in a forum such as this, he would have to repeat himself every time he makes a post, and that's just not feasible. It's up to each individual to investigate something further before they take any action with their trades. If someone gets burned because they didn't make the effort to fully...
I'm totally agree with ArftulDodger. TAH's job is not protect everyone's money. Every trader must learn self how to manage the money. No one else can't do that job.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #48,558
  • May 10, 2013 5:09am May 10, 2013 5:09am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote}Newbies will see the pips only...They will not understand what great danger they will have to walk through to achieve this..
i think newbie generally start with micro or demo , same as like i came to this thread 1 year ago , you can see my first posted , and about TAH , i think they (newbie) know how TAH trade after seeing couples trades .
  • #48,559
  • May 10, 2013 5:15am May 10, 2013 5:15am
Quoting sonicdeejay
I am seeing,,, some possible weakness in JPY pairs...EJ for instance.. Bullish trend is still strong and it is Friday ... so gotta be hawk and careful.. Sonic {image}
Tp on shorts..

Chart will post in 1 hr
Sonic
  • #48,560
  • May 10, 2013 5:29am May 10, 2013 5:29am
What about RISING WEDGE guys?
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