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  • #48,341
  • May 9, 2013 12:13am May 9, 2013 12:13am
Quoting ForexSwag
First TP 0.9403 US/CHF Lets hope the news doesn't effect the long trade, 45 Pips Move Stop Loss to +15....
GU Comment:

GBP is the news hog today, with 4 high impacts followed by a USD high impact. GU could go crazy. GU is flatlined. No apparent attempt at any sizeable position building. This could mean the MMs are going to do it with whipsaws later.
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  • #48,342
  • May 9, 2013 12:15am May 9, 2013 12:15am
Trader your 100% right GU will be jumping like crazy....
EU low impact
US Unemployment Claims High
Creditors have better memories than debtors.
  • #48,343
  • May 9, 2013 12:47am May 9, 2013 12:47am
GU, MMs Bulls or Bears?

I've been analyzing on M1 and have come up with two signals that the MMs are bears. S&R is not taking a part in this since PA is so flatlined, there being no discernable move to any S&R area before notable volume appears. Instead, PA is just sideways. Nevertheless, there are these two signals.

Both signals show MMs moving price up and then trading heavily off the those highs. This means the highs are being favored for trading, which in turn indicates the MMs are bears seeking high prices to do their selling at (short building).

I'd love to see Elliot Waves give as useful and as timely information as PVSRA does! Well, Elliot Waves cannot, plain and simple. Waste of time!

I'd love to see "PVSR and later 'VSA' " give as useful and as timely information as PVSRA does! Well, they don't, plain and simple. Waste of time!

So, this episode of PVSRA indicates the MMs are bears. And it can become a crazy day. I have a number of short trades on GU. PVSRA has been indicating the MMs are bears for quite some time. All-in-all, I am staying with my shorts thru whatever happens today, relying on PVSRA to show the way.
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  • #48,344
  • May 9, 2013 12:49am May 9, 2013 12:49am
Quoting ForexSwag
First TP 0.9403 US/CHF Lets hope the news doesn't effect the long trade, 45 Pips Move Stop Loss to +15....

We are not signal giving service...

Show your trade with ur chart...

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Sonic
  • #48,345
  • May 9, 2013 1:02am May 9, 2013 1:02am
Looking not so bull..anymore..??


Sonic
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  • #48,346
  • May 9, 2013 1:05am May 9, 2013 1:05am
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  • #48,347
  • May 9, 2013 1:08am May 9, 2013 1:08am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Looking not so bull..anymore..?? Sonic {image}
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1368079357


Sonic,

yes, it looks like the price structure change is happening.... will have to see how the PA will hold above 129.35 WPv
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #48,348
  • May 9, 2013 1:12am May 9, 2013 1:12am
Quoting traderathome
You are in control of yourself. Not even God controls you. He gave you Free Will to do as you wish. All He does is follow up with your deserved rewards or punishment. The point being, if you let yourself be led astray by this "visitor" then whatever happens to you is on you. You cannot even blame him. He is what he is. Whether or not he ends up being successful at undermining you, a student and practitioner of the Sonic R. System, is totally up to you. I can only control myself, no one else.
-traderathome
You are in control of yourself. Not even God controls you. He gave you Free Will to do as you wish. All He does is follow up with your deserved rewards or punishment. The point being, if you let yourself be led astray by this "visitor" then whatever happens to you is on you. You cannot even blame him. He is what he is. Whether or not he ends up being successful at undermining you, a student and practitioner of the Sonic R. System, is totally up to you. I can only control myself, no one else.
I loves these word very much.

thank you man for you great thought
  • #48,349
  • May 9, 2013 1:18am May 9, 2013 1:18am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} {image} Sonic, yes, it looks like the price structure change is happening.... will have to see how the PA will hold above 129.35 WPv

Indeed.. Mkt is sinking lower below Dragon with Nice wave down..
I close my Long @ 129.9x for abt +30 pips..

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Sonic
  • #48,350
  • May 9, 2013 1:27am May 9, 2013 1:27am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} indeed.. Mkt is sinking lower below dragon with nice wave down.. I close my long @ 129.9x for abt +30 pips.. {image} sonic
r u thinking about sell as me??
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  • #48,351
  • May 9, 2013 1:36am May 9, 2013 1:36am
Quoting traderathome
I'd love to see "PVSR and later 'VSA' " give as useful and as timely information as PVSRA does! Well, they don't, plain and simple.
Well since you said you would love to see VSA give some useful information.

VSA started showing signs on weakness on GU back on 4/28

1: Up bar, no volume lack of interest to drive price higher.
2: Up bar, higher volume close in the middle, signs of supply entering.
3: Massive volume showing heavy supply coming in.
4: Lower high than bar 3, and another weak close.

The bar in red, technically not really a selling climax due to volume should be higher, but it still probably at least is where the first point of supply hit the market, so VSA says that price should at least fall back to 5280.

.. going back to my thread now.
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  • #48,352
  • May 9, 2013 1:39am May 9, 2013 1:39am
AU Short Trade:

Entered short trade #1, Scout. M1 PVSRA shows the MMs are moving the price back upwards and favoring the highs as they do so for their heaviest trading, hence the MMs are bears seeking higher prices to short at. The MMs might get the price back above the half number later. If they do and if I am at the computer, I intend to add another short trade up there.
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  • #48,353
  • May 9, 2013 1:43am May 9, 2013 1:43am
Quoting traderathome
I'd love to see Elliot Waves give as useful and as timely information as PVSRA does! Well, Elliot Waves cannot, plain and simple. Waste of time! I'd love to see "PVSR and later 'VSA' " give as useful and as timely information as PVSRA does! Well, they don't, plain and simple. Waste of time!

Sir,

You seem to be over-the-top lil bit..
Mkt is just a collection of traders mostly are herds and few are smart money... Once may process a method that get it right 99.9% of the time but there is 0.1% chance he can get it wrong too..


Over confident can be the failure of the excellent trader..

Sonic
  • #48,354
  • May 9, 2013 1:50am May 9, 2013 1:50am
Quoting SimpleDev
{quote} Well since you said you would love to see VSA give some useful information. VSA started showing signs on weakness on GU back on 4/28 1: Up bar, no volume lack of interest to drive price higher. 2: Up bar, higher volume close in the middle, signs of supply entering. 3: Massive volume showing heavy supply coming in. 4: Lower high than bar 3, and another weak close. The bar in red, technically not really a selling climax due to volume should be higher, but it still probably at least is where the first point of supply hit the market, so VSA...
Not Useful at all!

That bit of VSA analysis spawned information is not useful at all. As we Sonicers are trading on M15 and not a "half day" chart, we need to know if the MMs are bulls or are bears, now! You left that critical piece of information out. Analysis using VSA is not at all like PVSRA, and not nearly as effective for making profits. What is important is not where price might go (you say to 1.5280,.....someday!), but whether bulls or bears are driving. Knowing that is how we make profits, and we don't have to wait until maybe, someday, 1.5280 to do so.

-tah
  • #48,355
  • May 9, 2013 1:55am May 9, 2013 1:55am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} {image} Hi, here is my update on my AU trade posted yesterday. I closed 4 trades so far , and taking 169pips in total. You will see my trade entries on my MT4 chart which I show both the actual entries and exits taken from the MT4 Terminal Account History. I don't draw lines on my charts in realtime because I stopped realtime paper trading many years ago. For practice,you can chose to do realtime live trading either with demo money or real money....
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1368069152

Hi,

After closing my profitable postions this morning, I have an open Buy position at 1.02373.
I am trading ME/ME as AU current market type is suitable for this way of trading.
I will average up at the next 25 pips steps.
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Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #48,356
  • Edited 2:52am May 9, 2013 2:13am | Edited 2:52am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} Sir, You seem to be over-the-top lil bit.. Mkt is just a collection of traders mostly are herds and few are smart money... Once may process a method that get it right 99.9% of the time but there is 0.1% chance he can get it wrong too.. Over confident can be the failure of the excellent trader.. Sonic
Not Over Top, But Getting Hot

No, I am not over the top, Master.

Regarding Elliot Waves, folks can look after the fact and say, gee here is where this wave should have been placed, but the truth of the matter is that during "real time" application one can not be at all certain of being correct in where they think a wave should be placed! Waste of time!

Regarding PASR + VSA, we know price/PA and S&R are very important, but the status quo VSA is not at all important. It is not as effective as our volume. It is a waste of time! I do not yield on that point. And my trading using PVSRA is testimony.

Sonic, I am not being arrogant, nor over confident. I know as well as anyone how fickle the market can be, and that anyone that tries to stand too tall is eventually going to fall. I am not saying PVSRA is perfect. All I am saying is that compared to PVSRA done properly, Elliot Waves and PASR+VSA are all a monumental waste of time!

Anyway, via my trades I am showing what PVSRA can accomplish. If anyone wishes to challenge my position, they are welcome to post their trades real-time also, so everyone can compare results. Trades posted real-time talks! Bullshit walks!

Master, if you think about it, either I have to stand up for the success PVSRA is, and as I have and as others here have already been demonstrating, or I have to just shut down and go on my way with the blessing I have been given. Stay, defend it, complete it and share it for the benefit of the Sonic R. System and all Sonicers, .....or shut it all down. There can be no compromise here after the early successes demonstrated by other Sonicers embracing PVSRA. I am not a wishy washy person. Would you have me be one and act like PVSRA is not something indeed very special and effective just because others have resentment?

I am interested in being a more successful trader. I am interested in helping others to be more successful traders. I am not at all interested in being an icon, in being the "Professor". I just want to do well and see others do well. In light of how PVSRA is already helping other sonicers, am I to stand tall, though I might occassionally fall, or am I to cower low so that I can never fall? Tell me how it is to be, Master.

-traderathome
  • #48,357
  • May 9, 2013 2:18am May 9, 2013 2:18am
Quoting irfanhashim
{quote} r u thinking about sell as me?? {image}

irfan,

are you watching volume activity now?
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #48,358
  • May 9, 2013 2:24am May 9, 2013 2:24am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Not Useful at all! That bit of VSA analysis spawned information is not useful at all. As we Sonicers are trading on M15 and not a "half day" chart, we need to know if the MMs are bulls or are bears, now! You left that critical piece of information out. Analysis using VSA is not at all like PVSRA, and not nearly as effective for making profits. What is important is not where price might go (you say to 1.5280,.....someday!), but whether bulls or bears are driving. Knowing that is how we make profits, and we don't have to wait until maybe,...
So now that we have identified weakness on GU, that means we must only trade on a 12h chart?? Perhaps we could zoom down to a 30m or even a 1h chart and sell those pesky high volume up thrusts and build a position.

... Wait a second.. Isn't that what you do?!?

I like you, you are fun.
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  • #48,359
  • May 9, 2013 2:27am May 9, 2013 2:27am
Nice exit before the aud data release Price back at 1.21 .Congratulations


Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} {quote} AN Short Trade: Closed all three short trades for 100x3= 300 pips gain, average EPx3 to close at TP1. {image}
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  • #48,360
  • May 9, 2013 2:33am May 9, 2013 2:33am
GM - nice sell in the bar before the LO as price spiked up above the **00 on increased volume.

However, I don't like the candle after LO marked "??" .....its almost a perfect graveyard doji (all downside wick / shadow) on higher volume, which means indecision / potential turn, so whilst I have target areas around the 50% & 61.8% retraces / **75 / **50 areas, I've also put in a SL for +10 pips as my intra day trading is all about trading the swings as they happen and banking what is offered....

Edit: now out for +10 after a 1 min Higher Low. UJ has both 1m & 5m dragons sloping up and €s trying to turn up too......TWT
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