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  • #794,541
  • May 5, 2013 2:13am May 5, 2013 2:13am
Quoting RussJ
Thats an ugly chart lol they thought mine were ugly before but as long as it works. Here's the Grid i used to use, have redrawn it on Cable and its perfect on Cable, ignore ema's and alarms but pretty much as yoou say i just draw where nthe line fits best and thats sometimes not at edges of wicks but thorough the bodies and all sorts. {image}

Yeah shakll take a nose at square of 9, its Gann stuff and people used to think my stuff was similar to Ganna and Andrews Pitchfork but reality it was just trend lines which created apexes and then when they hit that area you knew which time frame it was going to be ultimately supported and everything else was noise thats still could be traded if you understood the timeframes, but now just use the same rules, when it hits one R or S i expect it to be supported ultimately at the level it shoudl be supported at and if it breaks then i look for change of direction
  • #794,542
  • May 5, 2013 3:05am May 5, 2013 3:05am
EURUSD go to up or to down???
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only one is definitely in forex, the price will change. down or up
  • #794,543
  • May 5, 2013 5:48am May 5, 2013 5:48am
I'm drunk as well now..... had a few beers at the pool with my lass anyway, what i mean regarding time is either you or someone else esaid they predict Monday we will start the turn.. and it will be 14 hours after market opens???? howq can you predict time??? i understand 50% is the rule of life, ocean goes out it comes back in.... plane goes up it comes down... fractals work really with the 50% rule if you know what your doing exactly..... but time i still struggle with.. like i'll go out and my entry's bee missed but i've exited on my proft but missed my short or long/vice versa etc. am very interested in understanding time it takes to get to a distance??? am under the understanding if it takes 4 days to get down to support it should take at least 2 days retracing but found that not to be the case as always. But someone has predicted the 131.95 which i wont argue with but they've suggested 14 hours and am very interested how they can work out that, if i can work out time i can have a life as well as earn profit lol
  • #794,544
  • Edited 4:09pm May 5, 2013 5:55am | Edited 4:09pm
I thought of a brand new way of working out the time just today. It's is going to be the most used method. It's spawned from the massive revelation I had recently. I have 2 ways to do it now. I just started looking at Murray math / squares In an effort to work out what Gatorinla is doing? I have scanned through and now have a brief over view of Murray squares.

My first time finding technique comes from raw charts, no outside tools or math needed. The second method involves raw charts + some minor percentage calculations.

My friend showed me the key to finding the future of a chart, he discovered it and we applied it with spectacular results as documented in my bio. We know how to extract time and find levels turn for turn, hour by hour, weeks, days, months or years into the future.

But I didn't fully understand the how to apply the key all the time. And so I've been going up and down with my success for the last 3 years. In that time because I had this key, I could decrypt charts in a completely new way. I can see it through Neo's eyes so to speak.

Due to the revelation I had a few weeks back my research has reached it's ultimate conclusion. Because of this, I don't even need the key anymore. I know how to extract 95% of future PA with raw charts and a fib tool (not essential), and if you want timing sometimes you might need a calculator. Or I could just be patient wait for the levels and not be such a flash git.

Right, I have to tidy up this call 10.5 hours drop 1.3190 to 1.24835 (127% extension) Another 66.9 hours to bounce back to 118% 1.25704 (1.2500 psych level). 24.6 hours to go down to 138.2 level 123753 + slip 24 pips 1.2351 and then retrace the whole move down.

It doesn't always matter about the time, as long as the levels are correct and vice verse. some times the levels are off but I still have time and direction. It's fantastic. My projections give time price and direction.

Quoting ForExtraPips
{quote} Interesting. One of my daily charts has 1.3190 as to where price meets time, when squaring price, come the beginning of next week, then the trend reversal. Time will tell.
that's what I like to hear. Thanks for realizing and posting that.
Founder of Sutherland Wave Principle
  • #794,545
  • May 5, 2013 6:45am May 5, 2013 6:45am
I can now confirm that 81.00595632031768% of market movement is pre determined. I can prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt. I have all the documentation. And I know how to capture every pip of it.
Founder of Sutherland Wave Principle
  • #794,546
  • May 5, 2013 7:14am May 5, 2013 7:14am
You guys noticed how Farage's near victory in UK locals is swept under the rug by most international media? It seems like europe's Ron Paul is actually gaining momentum. The bEUrocrats are freaking out right now, as are the Tories and several other entities in power. I wonder if we'll see any reaction in the markets, as this one seems more serious than it is portaried to be (except maybe Tories got the point and decided to push through an EU referendum quicker, fearing that if they don't they loose to Farage altogether) Interesting times I tell you.
  • #794,547
  • May 5, 2013 7:22am May 5, 2013 7:22am
Quoting suthmo
I thought of a brand new way of working out the time just today. It's is going to be the most used method. It's spawned from the massive revelation I had recently. I have 2 ways to do it now. I just started looking at Murray math / squares In an effort to work out what Gatorinla is doing? I have scanned through and now have a brief over view of Murray squares. My first time finding technique comes from raw charts, no outside tools or math needed. The second method involves raw charts + some minor percentage calculations. My friend showed me the...
I am awestruck
  • #794,548
  • May 5, 2013 7:52am May 5, 2013 7:52am
Quoting rockstar1234
{quote} I am awestruck
I can't describe the feeling that came over me in 2010 when I realized just how amazing this was going to be. I think my brain went into serotonin overload and for about 10 minutes I was high as freaking kite. It was the greatest feeling in the world. The best deodorant ever.
Founder of Sutherland Wave Principle
  • #794,549
  • May 5, 2013 8:25am May 5, 2013 8:25am
Quoting suthmo
{quote}I can't describe the feeling that came over me in 2010 when I realized just how amazing this was going to be. I think my brain went into serotonin overload and for about 10 minutes I was high as freaking kite. It was the greatest feeling in the world. The best deodorant ever.
so... maybe you use "square of 9" in combination with murrey math and fibotools?

anyway... your predictions are amazing
  • #794,550
  • May 5, 2013 8:27am May 5, 2013 8:27am
Quoting suthmo
{quote}I can't describe the feeling that came over me in 2010 when I realized just how amazing this was going to be. I think my brain went into serotonin overload and for about 10 minutes I was high as freaking kite. It was the greatest feeling in the world. The best deodorant ever.
Yes , just studied up some stuff on Murrey Maths and now i do know where you are getting those levels from but nothing about time , need to search more i guess
  • #794,551
  • May 5, 2013 8:30am May 5, 2013 8:30am
Quoting infinitus
Sorry that I quoted you - my mistake
Sorry I am such an arrogant academic, my mistake .
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #794,552
  • May 5, 2013 8:31am May 5, 2013 8:31am
Quoting rockstar1234
{quote} Yes , just studied up some stuff on Murrey Maths and now i do know where you are getting those levels from but nothing about time , need to search more i guess
there is fibonacci timezone tool in MT4
  • #794,553
  • May 5, 2013 8:41am May 5, 2013 8:41am
Quoting rockstar1234
{quote} Yes , just studied up some stuff on Murrey Maths and now i do know where you are getting those levels from but nothing about time , need to search more i guess


http://futureanalyzer.blogspot.be/20...1_archive.html
  • #794,554
  • May 5, 2013 8:47am May 5, 2013 8:47am
Quoting Mtc108
{quote} http://futureanalyzer.blogspot.be/20...1_archive.html
Thanks for the link , bookmarked it . Will read it later
Too much reading makes me dizzy.
  • #794,555
  • May 5, 2013 8:50am May 5, 2013 8:50am
Quoting Mtc108
{quote} http://futureanalyzer.blogspot.be/20...1_archive.html
Ouch there goes the 10,000 hours secret
  • #794,556
  • May 5, 2013 9:16am May 5, 2013 9:16am
Quoting loureed10
{quote} Tested everything (normal, woodie ,etc) during six months in the past year, taking data from different sessions (LO, Ny , etc), my choice are p.points at 00.00 GMT, is all i can tell. Give it a try.
I'm way too lazy for that.
New voice message: Why are you calling me? If I need you, I'll call you!
  • #794,557
  • May 5, 2013 9:46am May 5, 2013 9:46am
Quoting rockstar1234
{quote} Yes , just studied up some stuff on Murray Maths and now i do know where you are getting those levels from but nothing about time , need to search more i guess
I just looked at my first murray math lesson yesterday and I breifly scanned the book. I don't know Murray yet.


Quoting Mtc108
{quote} so... maybe you use "square of 9" in combination with murrey math and fibotools? anyway... your predictions are amazing
Thank you.

I only heard of square of nine on this board, can only be a few pages back?

There are other unrealized phenomena / properties of a chart that underpin the whole game. If this goes mainstream you can kiss the futures goodbye, how can you speculate on something that's 80% written in stone? I think they know at the top what I know. The game is totally rigged if 80% of price action is pre determined. They take the 95% of the market? 4% of traders manage to survive between bits of convetional analysis / tools that work some of the time. What percentage of traders thrive, 1%? and the other 95% of traders get wiped out.

If everyone knew what the market would do 80% of the time wouldn't the market become over erratic?
No one could make a move because everyone would eat it up? I think this is what the big institutions do?
It could kill the futures markets? And I would be known as the guy who killed trading forever? Maybe I'm meant to put and end to all this toxic speculation?
Founder of Sutherland Wave Principle
  • #794,558
  • May 5, 2013 9:54am May 5, 2013 9:54am
Quoting suthmo
{quote}I just looked at my first murray math lesson yesterday and I breifly scanned the book. I don't know Murray yet. {quote} Thank you. I only heard of square of nine on this board, can only be a few pages back? There are other unrealized phenomena / properties of a chart that underpin the whole game. If this goes mainstream you can kiss the futures goodbye, how can you speculate on something that's 80% written in stone? I think they know at the top what I know. The game is totally rigged if 80% of price action is pre determined. They take...
Are you a trader or a fiction writer? LOL.
  • #794,559
  • May 5, 2013 10:10am May 5, 2013 10:10am
Suthmo,

First of all, I wish you the best in your research. It is great to explore markets. Though I need to say, you are looking at it a bit enthusiastic. Sure, it is great if you right now know what market is doing. Be glad and make cash out of it. Nevertheless, market is non stop evolving beast. It evolves as fast as mankind and right now, evolution of market is picking up speed, cause computers joined in. It is not possible to apply single trading methodology to trade markets as time goes. It may work three years, maybe up to five, but not much longer.

Please take no offence, but you have an attitude of a child who looked at charts for the first time and saw "hey it makes sence". It really makes sence, when simply looking at it. It will stop making sence, as soon as you need to make trading decision. Market does lots of tricks. I can backtest almost any trading system, and backtest papertrading is going to yield 75% per year. It is actually easy to write profitable system. The hard part is not only to enter as system tells you, but to be prepared system can stop working anytime.

T
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #794,560
  • Edited 11:16am May 5, 2013 10:33am | Edited 11:16am
I'm taking that title

GANN
Quoting Mtc108
{quote} http://futureanalyzer.blogspot.be/20...1_archive.html
1. How was William Gann?

William D. Gann was a trader of the early 20th century. Gann’s methods of technical analysis for projecting both price and time targets are unique. Even today, his methods have yet to be fully duplicated. Known as “The Master Trader”, W.D. Gann was born in 1878, in Lufkin, Texas. Gann netted over 50 milliGAn $ from the markets during his trading career, averaging a success rate for trades of more than 90%. It has been said that Gann could very well have been right ALL the time. Any losses incurred by him were only there by his own design and not because of any faults with his methods.
His successes are legendary. Gann literally converted small accounts into fortunes, increasing their net balances by several hundred percent. There are numerous examples of his trading successes, among which are these:

1908 – a $130 account increased to $12.000 in 30 days.
1923 – a $973 account increased to $30.000 in 60 days.
1933 – 479 trades were made with 422 being profitable. This is an accuracy of 88% and 4000% profit.
1946 – A 3-month net profit of $13.000 from starting capital of $4500 – a 400% profit.d

SUTHMO

To the pip challenge
Project price action within 5 pips at a random point in the future Apr 30, 2010
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...77#post3689377

To the Minute forecasting
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...67#post4511367

Market Maps

Weekly
Project a whole week of price action in one go
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...48#post3663748

Whole day Projection
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...82#post4687982

400 pips a day on the same pair

Accurately call 400 pips of profitable trades on the same pair in the same day, before the session opens
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...stcount=243223
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...84#post3731184

Hour by Hour Projections
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...61#post3623661

Displays price action that happens inside the weekend gap

Displays Sun opening price with gaps
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...69#post3648669
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...13#post3731313

350 pip drop projected and called 8 days ahead April 14 2011
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...93#post4524293

9 days correct projections in January 2011
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...97#post4294597

Displays next days Support Resistance levels
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...68#post4540568

Yearly Map
Project price action 10 months ahead

Dow double top crash of Aug 2011 projected and called Jan 3rd 2011
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...03#post4280803

May 2nd 2011
The very day the DOW began a 1000 point two month down run the system had this to say:
"It's going to drop like the silver, suddenly to 12100? Then back up over the next two months forming a double top?"
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...20#post4584420
The Dow double topped and dropped 2350 points over 15 days

Proves the same price action happens over and over again
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...27#post4800027

Makes Non Farm Payroll day make sense
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...42#post4664142
[add link to friday non farm call]

Price Timing Direction
Even if the levels are off you know what direction to get in at the right time
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...48#post3663748
2012 Two weeks in May called on Sunday the 18th
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...18#post5712318

Best 48 hr session 680% in two days

last week I called every top and bottom from friday 26th to Friday the 3rd 7 days 940 pips starting at $100 at a $ a pip and going up a $ at every turn would be £3500 3500% increase in 7 days in 7 trades. It seems it took Gann the whole of 1933 and 477 trades to go 4000% I wasn't live trading this but have banked %680 in 2 day live trading. This is what I do.
Founder of Sutherland Wave Principle
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