Sonic R. System

Sorry for not having time to take part on these recent days. Been really busy for few days here... Been reading Sonic thread and trading with phone though

We had little holiday here at Finland in the middle of week and we were visiting some finnish children places with my family and our godchild. It has beed great relaxing week


So for trades...
Took profit from 8 EU positions at 1.3040 and reloaded scout short #1 at 1.3113.
Took profit from all GU positions at 1.5490 and reloaded scout short #1 at 1.5565.

Also took advantage from Yen pairs movement:
EJ scout short #1 at 128.78
EJ scout short #2 at 129.94

UJ scout short #1 at 98.84

GJ scout short #1 at 153.42
GJ scout short #2 at 153.88

All new scout entries based on PVSRA. I'm sorry that I cannot post charts right now, cause I'm on Mac at home and MT4 doesn't run on mac.

I've seen many new PVSRA users doing great job this week. I think that Professor TAH can be proud from what he have already achieved with PVSRA teaching :nerd: Many of us, who start to get hang of PVSRA, can be grateful to good old Professor here Congratulations from me to all of you new PVSRA guys/gals here
Keep up the good work people!

And I'm affraid I will be very quiet here on thread whole weekend, cause we're going to a weekend cruise to swedish ship. Leaving tomorrow morning. See you after weekend!

Crossover solves your MT4 problems

Tried that already few months ago, but I couldn't get it work properly
Mouse right button didn't work and it came unresponsive all the time

Hi
How Can I change candlestick chart to one color bar chart in TAH WHITE TEMPLATE ?

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Thx.
Sonic

PVSRA Results for 1st Five Weeks

The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if MMs are bulls or bears, and then trading the price action I see.

Week ending 04/05
1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), and averaging 67+ pips per all parts.

Week ending 04/12
1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all winners), averaging 67+ pips per all parts.

Week ending 04/19
2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips per all parts.

Week ending 04/26
2640 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 34 parts (all winners), averaging 77+ pips per all parts.

Week ending 05/03
2530 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 24 parts (23 parts winners), averaging 105+ pips per all parts.


All of these trades, all of the trade parts thereof, were posted real-time right here on the Sonic R. System thread, using crystal clear easy to understand charts and explanations regarding PVSRA reasons for entries, whether Classic or Scout trades.

Anyone who has followed my trades has noticed the sudden and dramatic increase in profits resulting from these trades versus my previous trading. I use the word "dramatic" because suddenly I am gaining more pips weekly than I had previously been gaining monthly! I consider that to be a dramatic change. And I attribute this wonderful change to PVSRA. I am growing along with the "in-work" PVSRA project, and the only information on it for now will be thru my trade and "Comment" posts, the posts of other Sonicers that are also using PVSRA, and the PVSRA PDF that compiles a sampling of these posts (compliments of jackywang5, see link in post #1).

I repeat, the released TAH indicators and templates (Post #1, link #1) are totally adequate for PVSRA. So, even though I continue to field test upgrades in preparations for a future release, don't let that stop you from joining in on the use of PVSRA if you want to do so.

Finally, I wish to express my appreciation to those Sonicers embracing the PVSRA project and contributing with their posts, both on the difficulties they are having and the successes they are having. My prayer is that eventually we will nail down the best facets of analysis to use, and that the sum total will be elegantly simple and effective, just as is the Sonic R. System that PVSRA is to serve.

-tah

Transferability Has Priority Over Preference

Transferability has the highest priority here. By "transferability" I mean the ease with which new traders can learn the Sonic R. System. Transferability is enhanced thru standardization: standardized charts, standardized colors for EP/TP/SL, etc., you name it and it is important that standardization rules. It simply makes it easier on any student to remain focused and to learn, instead of being distracted when all sorts of "differences" appear.

I know a lot of people come here with no thought of anyone but themselves, and their own wants and preferences, and they cannot see that as someone who has not even begun to adopt the Sonic R. System, their selfish requests for changes are totally out of line, are unnecessary, and such changes would adversely affect standardization, and therefore transferability. And so their own requests, if catered to and if they are seriously going to delve into learning the Sonic R. System, would actually work against them as students.

I know some people who have come here have never adopted the TAH indicators and templates. They continue to use their own, which is their right, but it does not serve this thread in the role of being a textbook for students. The best textbooks maintain consistency, standardization. They do not constantly display things differently because the authors understand the importance that standardization has to transferability. And textbooks have the primary function of transferring knowledge.

The primay function of this Sonic R. System thread is the same as a textbook, and is the transferring of knowledge of the Sonic R. System. I can only hope the more enlightened and selfless Sonicers will prevail, that they will continue to use the TAH indicators and templates, and will make their posts concise with understandably annotated charts that are clean, and not messy, so we students all can benefit from a task to learn made easier by such thoughtful Sonicers.

-tah

TAH, concerning your results per this week.
This week you posted your trade results 3 times.
AU 240 pips
UChf 250 pips
UCad 40 pips
Probably, you forget to post some trades here?

This trade is missing in your result DmitryFx.

Oups. Thanks zohaib!

PVSRA.PDF updated . Money Management was added and also some new posts up to today.

Congrats Professor TAH with those winning pips for five weeks now. Its still a long way for me to reach where you and master sonicdeejay stand.
But Im on my way with hardworking now.

can someone tell me when I upload,why the security scan take so long like forever.It took me 1hour for scanning and never finished.
Its been a weired day, tried uploading few times, but after I refreshed this page, the pdf was gone.......

I agree, the results of your PVSRA-based trading have been remarkable!

I have a very general grasp of what you are doing, but it still hasn't totally come
into focus for me.

I would like to see a pdf accompany the release of your PVSRA info when it arrives.
Maybe a demonstration also detailing your approach to using it - a step by step
sort of thing - what you look at first (and what you are looking FOR).

I am convinced you have discovered something very special but I still don't
have a grasp on it that allows me to trade it with confidence.

I am very much looking forward to the future release.

Thanks all sonicers, for these great efforts and great job they are doing here ,
thank you so much jackywang5 for the great work that you are doing in these PDF File , I wish to know to use PVSRA and analysis it like TAH to do some thing to the newbies in this threat ,
thanks for you all

Question : To All Soincer ,
I know color used for clarification or differentiation , but in conicR template what these color meant : we know there is Red and Green or blue means the direction of the markets at that moment , but the other color I wish someone help me to explain these color , grey , black, purple , what these candle mean , and some time there is red candle became grey in SonicR template and other time it become black , other time became blue? Why?
thanks a lot ,

PVSRA Tutorial

The PVSRA project is by no means complete. This is an "in-work" project to identify and clarify the method of analysis. The analysis is a Price, Volume, S&R Analysis (hence the acronym PVSRA). PVSRA uses absolutely no other indicators because all other indicators are nothing more than derivatives of price. They are all lagging indicators that frequently point you in the wrong direction. They waste computer resources and serve only to inhibit your success that can only be achieved by properly analyzing the three most important datum in trading, and then setting up your strategy to trade based on that analysis, and that analysis alone!

The method of analysis is to look for notable volume changes, then to look at the general price action (PA) and the individual price bars within that PA before during and after notable volume changes, and finally to look to see where all this PA is taking place relative to important S&R levels. That is it in a nutshell, but there are important specifics involved.

The area of important specifics involved include what is meant by "notable volume changes", what are we looking for in the general PA, what are we looking for in the way of individual candle configurations within that PA, and what are we looking for when we bring the S&R factor into all of this? Finding out the best answers to these questions is what this "in-work" PVSRA project is all about; what works and what does not work.

In the following text I am going to discuss some specifics, some considerations being tried. In time, some may be discarded as unreliable and some as yet unidentified specifics may come to light through discoveries to be made by traders that have embraced this project and are trading based on PVSRA.

Volume Specifics
By "notable" volume changes we mean relative volume changes that stand out. These do not have to result in tall volume bars, just taller volume bars compared to within a short time before they occur. The color coded volume histogram helps to identify such notable changes, regardless of the actual height of the bars, which is why short bars can appear as color coded bars. Certainly, when very tall color coded volume bars appear, even among other tall volume bars, this is not only a notable change in relative volume, it has the possible added indication of being "stopping" volume. This of course must be confirmed by studying the candle associated with such a volume bar. Relative to important S&R, where the end of the candle strikes can be a form of confirmation. More will be said on this in the section on S&R below.

Price and PA Specifics
When a notable volume event occurs what does the specific candle look like and what has PA been doing in general? Here are some considerations. If the specific candle strikes into lows, or is low, or is coming up off of lows in PA that is generally declining, this is an indication lower prices are favored more than higher prices, which implies bulls are building long positions. If the specific candle strikes up into highs, or is high, or is coming down off of highs in PA that is generally rising, this is an indication higher prices are favored more than lower prices, which implies bears are building short positions. Sometimes the general drift of PA is neither declining nor inclining, but doing both or doing neither. At such times you might still be able to see if high or low prices seem to be favored. However, there are times when this aspect of PVSRA does not yield clear results. It is not a failing of PVSRA. It is the strength of PVSRA! At such times PVSRA is telling you there is no clear "signal" and no trade entry should be under consideration by you!

S&R Specifics
Currently, there are two S&R considerations: discrete S&R levels and where has price come from. The discrete S&R levels are whole, half and quarter numbers, in that order of priortiy. Bears like to move price above these levels to close longs/build shorts. Bulls like to move price below these levels to close shorts/build longs. So, if price as been moved above/below any of these levels and notable volume changes then occur, this is an indication bears/bulls reign. Where price has come from is also a consideration because you will see, using the Levels on your SonicR template and viewing H1 charts, that inter-day swings tend to be birthed in the area of these Levels, and tend to die in the area of these Levels. The way to use this information is to see the progress of PA from the birth of the current swing. Inter-day swings tend to be 100+, 150+, 200+, 250+, etc. pips in length. If a swing has just started, the odds are for more progress. If a swing is already mature, the odds increase for price to reverse. Unfortunately, we cannot know how far a swing might progress. Nevertheless, this sometimes does add confirmation to what other aspects of PVSRA are indicating. And it sometimes boldly refutes what other aspects of PVSRA are indicating. For this latter situation, suppose the price and volume specifics are indicating the MMs are bulls, with notable volumes occuring at prices at lows, and maybe even in the very short term prices are starting to drift low. What would you conclude if your S&R part of the PVSRA showed price had already performed a 250+ pips inter-day swing upwards? Could the MMs be putting on "bullish looking PA" as part of a last effort to coax longs into the market to give the bear MMs liquidity for their final round of short building before they start their run for profits downwards? You see, it is not just price and volume that can be analyzed. S&R must be a part of the analysis for the analysis to yield reliable indications!

Conclusions
As I have repeated over and over again, PVSRA can determine if MMs are bulls or bears, but we cannot ever know how far they might move price as they build their positions (by screwing other traders into giving them the liquidity they need to build). Therefore we can never know when the MM will start their run for profits. What this means is, we Sonicers can both build positions as the MMs build, or we can trade opposite the MMs. For example, if the MMs are pushing up prices and building shorts as they go, we can also or we can be in a counter-MM long trade. If the MMs are pushing down prices and building longs as they go, we can also or we can be in a counter-MM short trade. PVSRA is used to determine if the MMs are bulls or bears. Once you determine that, you are best able to set your strategy for trading, with the MMs or counter-MMs, as price achieves landmark S&R levels (whole, half, quarter levels), which are good places to make your trade entries.

Sonicer, I hope this "current state" tutorial helps, and that the effort of other PVSRA traders will eventually yield a PVSRA that is simple and as effective as the Sonic R. System it is intended to serve.


-tah

Hello Tah, time to honor and arguments, to honor pips of these five weeks, I hope I can reciprocate.
I'll ask you a question that I think too many other interests:
with explorer method if we are on the wrong side for a number of reasons and we realize that the bears have become bulls , the bulls are now bears, soon we can talk about life-saving techniques.

I am a trader old model, when I enter a trade I need to know what is the way out or the risk I'm willing to run, I saw a couple of comments but we never deepened the topic.


Thank you again and wish you all a happy w.e.

Thanks Prof. Tah for such a valuable Post, we shall read it several times to absorb it, as a small appreciation for your weekend time you put in.
I'm practising PVSRA with you, but i keep it a bit silent as enough explanation are by professionals.
So far in last two weeks i had 20% gain on my account and appreciation goes to you and Master Sonic.
Regards

This is an excellent and important question that deserves some discussion. For what it's worth after a couple of weeks at this particular strategy my current view is that if you can definitively say you are on the wrong side then you exit. Your exit strategy could be:

A. Just get out immediately at whatever the level is at the time.
B. The more risky get out at the next pullback in your favour.

How you do it will be down to your confidence in your trading ability to manage duff trades.

The real question however is how do you know you are the wrong side? At what point do you concede defeat, cut your losses and live to fight another day? My current view is it is reasonable to stay in and manage the trade SO LONG AS YOUR PVSRA ANALYSIS CONFIRMS YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE TRADE. However you have to remember that there will always be retracements in any moves and there will be isolated candles that show a minor retracement. If you start getting bunches of these then you may be in trouble and need to exit. Only you can decide. I like to make my analysis first then see if it matches what others on here are thinking. Part of the beauty of this system is the multiple entry points so don't rush in, the first entry point is more often than not not the best! Money management on this system is key, you must do the maths on your lot size. I do not think we have enough data yet to come up with definitive guidance as to lot size but you could end up with 15 lots running a 200 pip average drawdown. That's 3000 pips. If your normal risk size per trade is 2% that makes your lot size 1/150000 of your account....

All of this must be heavily caveated that this system is highly experimental and not yet proven. 4 weeks is nothing - despite excellent results so far. Give it 5 months then see how this has gone.

All in my humble opinion as an amateur PVSRA student.

Teacher may have a better view.

My opinion is that any trader who hasn't the funds to sustain a big drawdown shouldn't get a scout at the first sign of MM's becoming bulls/bears, the GU this week is the best example. If you started adding scouts at the first bear sign you had a problem. I did it and I lost alot. Wait at least a few days before you get in the trade, so the MM's can get their business where they want. If the big movement started and you weren't in the trade then well... too bad. It's better to lost the opportunity than lose pips. Overall this is maybe the best system out there but I disagree with TAH's method with adding scouts from bottom to top; it's a bad technique because of just what Apollo14 said. I don't know how right am I, just started here.

yah just add TAH scout from 5 and pup...