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  • #12,481
  • Apr 29, 2013 8:42am Apr 29, 2013 8:42am
Quoting Marviin
{quote} lastingwell, here is not the problem, the problem is that that person doesn't seem to know what a divergence is so... back to square 1. And by reading the thread, we know that entering while the PA is ranging isn't good at all. I don't want to create a witch hunt but the bare minimum is to read the thread or at least the links on post 1 before asking questions that have already been answered multiple time. If the Genesis team thinks that I'm out of line I do apologize.
No you're not out of line. Whilest I don't pay too much notice of M5 divergence, that wasn't the point that geomink was making. His point was that he had no idea what divergence was...at all.....yet he has been directed to read post #1 several times. If he had have spent some time just reading that one post, he would have already known that, plus a lot more about not only the system, but about trading in general.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #12,482
  • Apr 29, 2013 8:44am Apr 29, 2013 8:44am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} There's a couple of things actually.....we have spoken many times about staying out when the market is ranging/whipping around, I have have spoken very recently about the fact that there is no need to be in a trade just because you can be. having been stopped out once or twice, the message is pretty clear that the market is ranging and has not yet settled on a direction. Also, his trade was opposit to the M15 arrows, which is not really a very good thing to do. There are some times when staying out of the market is the best position to be...
I think we are looking at 2 different trades, this is the one I was looking at: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...27#post6644127 the M15 arrows were in place. I dont disagree with those things which is why I didnt take them but I do think people should explain their point if they are going to disagree with a trade...like you have just done which saves a lot of confusion especially when obviously the posters first language is not English.
  • #12,483
  • Apr 29, 2013 8:54am Apr 29, 2013 8:54am
Quoting lastingwell
{quote} I think we are looking at 2 different trades, this is the one I was looking at: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...27#post6644127 the M15 arrows were in place. I dont disagree with those things which is why I didnt take them but I do think people should explain their point if they are going to disagree with a trade...like you have just done which saves a lot of confusion especially when obviously the posters first language is not English.
lastingwell, the problem isn't the trade which is not that bad (in the higher trend, M15 & M5 arrow, down DP, good signal) despite the fact that the PA was ranging a bit, the problem was with the poster not willing to spend some time learning.
  • #12,484
  • Apr 29, 2013 8:59am Apr 29, 2013 8:59am
Quoting lastingwell
{quote} I think we are looking at 2 different trades, this is the one I was looking at: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...27#post6644127 the M15 arrows were in place. I dont disagree with those things which is why I didnt take them but I do think people should explain their point if they are going to disagree with a trade...like you have just done which saves a lot of confusion especially when obviously the posters first language is not English.
You're right....I was looking at the wrong chart, thanks.

I know what you're saying regarding explaining things to people, but even if a person were to read Post #1 plus 20 or 30 pages at either end of the thread...and use the search function, it would stop a lot of these repetitive questions that quite frankly, are irritating. We all miss things and need to ask questions, and that's fair enough, but to not bother reading anything, or searching at all, but instead asking questions as first course of action is very annoying. As you know you don't learn this business by being spoonfed everything....you have to use the old grey matter a bit here and there!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #12,485
  • Apr 29, 2013 9:03am Apr 29, 2013 9:03am
Quoting Marviin
{quote} lastingwell, the problem isn't the trade which is not that bad (in the higher trend, M15 & M5 arrow, down DP, good signal) despite the fact that the PA was ranging a bit, the problem was with the poster not willing to spend some time learning.
Fair enough, I just don't think the way people were telling him were very clear to the point or very pleasant to read but thats just my opinion.
  • #12,486
  • Apr 29, 2013 9:10am Apr 29, 2013 9:10am
Haven't seen you for a while lastingwell....hows the basket trading going?
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #12,487
  • Apr 29, 2013 9:35am Apr 29, 2013 9:35am
Quoting lastingwell
{quote} I think we are looking at 2 different trades, this is the one I was looking at: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...27#post6644127 the M15 arrows were in place. I dont disagree with those things which is why I didnt take them but I do think people should explain their point if they are going to disagree with a trade...like you have just done which saves a lot of confusion especially when obviously the posters first language is not English.
Evening/morning everyone,

Since RJ approved using MA's suggested by Marty, I just want to note that the signal candle in this setup was above both 25&60 MA's and that is why I did not take it.
  • #12,488
  • Apr 29, 2013 9:39am Apr 29, 2013 9:39am
Quoting Thoughts
{quote}Youre trying to put the responsibility of your trading on others..and youve not read much of the thread, helping you would be encouraging laziness..
100% agree
  • #12,489
  • Apr 29, 2013 9:53am Apr 29, 2013 9:53am
I have to say something after a while with my broken english

Genesis is nothing for Newbies which are not able to identify the Market.

In the first time i was really not able to trade Genesis on M5, i did it just on M1. It was profitable, but to stressfull.
Then i do again my homework and look for something that i can identify the market with my eyes.
The biggest issue is, that each person read a chart different and you have to find a way, which work for you.
I found him, and lot of other peoples are also able to do this, the thing is, you have to do YOUR homework, not the other peoples.

No one gets something on a silver tablet.
  • #12,490
  • Apr 29, 2013 10:28am Apr 29, 2013 10:28am
Quoting lastingwell
{quote} You are missing the Gann hi low indicator required, check your indicator folder to make sure you have the correct one from the zip file.
Thanks mate, I was cleaning out my indis folder and deleted them accidentally. It is fixed now.
  • #12,491
  • Apr 29, 2013 3:45pm Apr 29, 2013 3:45pm
Quoting realjumper
Haven't seen you for a while lastingwell....hows the basket trading going?
Not been trading many days of the week lately as a lot going on in my life at the moment that is diverting my attention but on the days I do trade still making my 10-20% thanks realjumper
  • #12,492
  • Edited 4:31pm Apr 29, 2013 4:08pm | Edited 4:31pm
Quoting geomink
I hope will not take stop loss again {image}
Hi Guys, I have read the first 100 pages, I have read the last 50 pages, thanks for all the great information,

I have noticed that in the past 20/30 pages a new indicator has appeared on the charts, it sits on the bottom of the chart, not stoch or the genesis, of course.

I have looked back to see if I can find its introduction, but on page 814 there are charts without it on,

I have seen one labelled ASCTrend4tf, I would be most grateful for a heads up..!!

I have quoted a chart from Geomink to illustrate my point, hope you can help, thanks, S
  • #12,493
  • Apr 29, 2013 5:42pm Apr 29, 2013 5:42pm
Is this what you are after??

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...84#post6611854

or

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...35#post6612083
  • #12,494
  • Apr 29, 2013 8:18pm Apr 29, 2013 8:18pm
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Thanks very much for providing the links, i have put the indi on my chart but it does not seem to be the same as the one on previous charts...!!!

What is this indicator??? The one at the bottom of my chart, Green in colour. Hope you, or someone else can help

Thanks, S
  • #12,495
  • Apr 29, 2013 8:53pm Apr 29, 2013 8:53pm
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I had the same problem. Just check to see if you have the indicators listed....
  • #12,496
  • Apr 29, 2013 10:55pm Apr 29, 2013 10:55pm
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Thanks very much, PIPMONSTER, I have got quite a few of the indis on here, the arrows are missing, I shall put them on later,

I obtained the missing Multi Time Frame indi from the "additional indi for Genesis" thread

This will be a great help to me, you may remember me saying that I am in Australia and the Genesis makes trading in this time zone good,

5 pm to 11pm catches a lot of London and a bit of NY, thanks,

How is your trading going in Brizzie..??
  • #12,497
  • Apr 29, 2013 10:56pm Apr 29, 2013 10:56pm
Quoting sio bel
{image} Thanks very much, PIPMONSTER, I have got quite a few of the indis on here, the arrows are missing, I shall put them on later, This will be a great help to me, you may remember me saying that I am in Australia and the Genesis makes trading in this time zone good, 5 pm to 11pm catches a lot of London and a bit of NY, thanks,
Many Thanks too, to RJ and the rest of the traders who help with their input, great work,..
  • #12,498
  • Apr 29, 2013 11:08pm Apr 29, 2013 11:08pm
Quoting sio bel
{image} Thanks very much, PIPMONSTER, I have got quite a few of the indis on here, the arrows are missing, I shall put them on later, I obtained the missing Multi Time Frame indi from the "additional indi for Genesis" thread This will be a great help to me, you may remember me saying that I am in Australia and the Genesis makes trading in this time zone good, 5 pm to 11pm catches a lot of London and a bit of NY, thanks, How is your trading going in Brizzie..??
All steam ahead here. The trade time for us is quite good......have the whole day to get stuff done....then sit down late afternoon for the real work to begin. RJ being a little more "time advanced" than us has a much later night - I must say there is no way I could stay up to 3am and trade....trade well anyway.

PM1
  • #12,499
  • Apr 29, 2013 11:15pm Apr 29, 2013 11:15pm
Quoting sio bel
the arrows are missing, I shall put them on later,
The ASCTrend Matrix 3TF you have on your chart IS the arrows.......just a different way of showing them
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #12,500
  • Apr 30, 2013 1:18am Apr 30, 2013 1:18am
O.K. thanks for telling me that, RJ---- it is great to have my charts looking like the other fellas' charts at last,

So when the colours match on the Genesis and the colours match on the arrow chart, we have a trade, so long

as Stochs being in place and taking into account the pivots and Big Round Numbers of course, also

the candle closes across the MA, in direction of the trade, I can't think of any other qualifiers at the moment,

hope someone can offer their opinion/advice, thanks v.v. much.. S
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