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  • #47,521
  • Apr 26, 2013 3:00pm Apr 26, 2013 3:00pm
Just to confirm TAH's post, I want to show you something.

This is my first month doing intraday. Since I started to study forex I always traded in 4 hours and daily charts. I have my main account but I decided to open a new one with 200$ approx to practice an intraday system. Lucky me, I found this thread and I started to study full time. When I say full time it's full time. In this month I studied more than ever, some days even 5-6 hours per day. SonicR system is simple, funny and it requires study to win that "edge". I asked a lot in the thread, and thank to you I learnt a lot, learning every single time you posted a chart.

If you love what you do, the effort is a pleasure. And as you can see in the image, the results are coming. And remember, it's just only my first month!! I made a lot of mistakes and I doubled my account (102% return atm) and I made more than 2.000 pips. And in my main account, all this knowledge has improved my trading skill a lot and I also had there around 80% return, which is awesome.

I guess it will be hard to repeat something like this the next month, but as you can see, this system with this teachers are simply awesome. I can't be more happy.

So, thank you all and keep killing it!
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  • #47,522
  • Apr 26, 2013 3:25pm Apr 26, 2013 3:25pm
Quoting Tymedu
Just to confirm TAH's post, I want to show you something. This is my first month doing intraday. Since I started to study forex I always traded in 4 hours and daily charts. I have my main account but I decided to open a new one with 200$ approx to practice an intraday system. Lucky me, I found this thread and I started to study full time. When I say full time it's full time. In this month I studied more than ever, some days even 5-6 hours per day. SonicR system is simple, funny and it requires study to win that "edge". I asked a lot in the thread,...
Tymedu Hey congratulations. Do you use the classic system or scouts? If you use the system Scouts What is the maximum loss per trade?
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  • #47,523
  • Apr 26, 2013 5:53pm Apr 26, 2013 5:53pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} 127.4x is a nice place to TP for now... Cheers.. Sonic {image}

Told Cha...

Sonic

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  • #47,524
  • Apr 26, 2013 6:26pm Apr 26, 2013 6:26pm
I need somebody to grade my PVSRA summary

Bull MMs setup: MMs drove the price below whole number with high volume to close shorts and add longs during the Asian session.

Bear MMs setup: MMs drove the price above half number to close longs an add shorts during the Asian session.

Wait for price action to confirm if MMs are bull or bears.

Expect high bullish volume in support areas and high bearish volume in resistance areas to confirm a bounce. Breakouts must be with high volume.
  • #47,525
  • Apr 26, 2013 6:42pm Apr 26, 2013 6:42pm
Quoting fex
Thank you very much TAH . What has been the average maximum loss per trade? I would like to know what risk I face, to design a proper Money Management.
As I pointed out, only three out of all 112 of the trade parts closed for a loss, -28.0, -00.6, and -09.4 pips. It averages -12.6 pips per loss. Yet, all 112 trades, including those 3 that lost, averaged out at 70.5 pips gain per trade.
  • #47,526
  • Edited 9:05pm Apr 26, 2013 7:25pm | Edited 9:05pm
Quoting Amadeus8
I need somebody to grade my PVSRA summary Bull MMs setup: MMs drove the price below whole number with high volume to close shorts and add longs during the Asian session. Bear MMs setup: MMs drove the price above half number to close longs an add shorts during the Asian session. Wait for price action to confirm if MMs are bull or bears. Expect high bullish volume in support areas and high bearish volume in resistance areas to confirm a bounce. Breakouts must be with high volume.


More on PVSRA in Response to Request for Critique

  1. You specified "during the Asian session" as a condition. It isn't. PVSRA can be done anytime to determine if the MMs are bulls or bears.
  2. You mentioned MMs driving price below the whole number in one statement, and driving price above the half number in another statement. Here is clarification. MMs prefer to close longs and open shorts above whole, half and one of the quarter levels, in that order of priority. MMs prefer to close shorts and open longs below whole, half and one of the quarter levels, in that order of priority.
  3. You said to wait for price action to confirm if MMs are bulls or bears, so you are missing the whole point here. PVSRA tells you if the MMs are bulls or bears, and waiting on some form of follow-on price action as confrimation is not required! Here is some addtional clarification. If you are trading Classics, once you've determined if the MMs are bulls or bears, then wait for a Classic setup in the appropriate direction. If you are trading Scouts and PVSRA says MMs are bears and price is above the whole number, why wait? If PVSRA says MMs are bulls and price is below the whole number, why wait? You can wait if you want to see first that price turns around and high volume comes in for the reverse move, but it is not necessary.
  4. Regarding S&R areas and bounces or breakouts with high volumes, here is some clarification. For MMs, most of the time the whole, half and quarter number levels are the S&R they seek, as described in 2. above. Yes, they can also use other S&R levels formed by previous PA, as you are talking about. So far as bounces or breakouts with high volumes, that gets us back to 3. wherein you can wait if you want to for MMs to reverse the price and start heavy trading, or you can "catch" them at the price extremes they work so hard to get prices to, and make your Scout entry there just as they are doing, before they turn the price and start heavy trading back in the other direction.

Overall, it seems you are taking a conservative approach. There is nothing wrong with that, but it will result in less effective Scout entries. As for your reference to the Asian session, PVSRA can be used at any time. The important thing here is to realize there are times when PVSRA will not yield crystal clear results, which is due to market conditions and not do to any failing of PVSRA. When this happens it is a signal to not trade, but to keep analyzing until PVSRA does yield clear results.


Hope this helps.
-tah

  • #47,527
  • Apr 26, 2013 7:45pm Apr 26, 2013 7:45pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} More on PVSRA in Response to Request for Critique You specified "during the Asian session" as a condition. It isn't. PVSRA can be done anytime to determine if the MMs are bulls or bears. You mentioned MMs driving price below the whole number in one statement, and driving price above the half number in another statement. Here is clarification. MMs prefer to close longs and open shorts above whole, half and or one of the quarter levels, in that order of priority. MMs prefer to close shorts and open longs below whole, half and one of the...
ok..thanks
  • #47,528
  • Apr 26, 2013 9:20pm Apr 26, 2013 9:20pm
Just a question on PVSRA..

Recently i use this on USD/CAD but it does not fare really well.. not sure if I interpret wrong or something else make it goes wrong.

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I realize there is some high volume at low previously, but it seems usd cad just keep falling.. I am unsure whats went wrong .

Would be good if someone can tell me what did i interpret wrongly on PVSRA as i circle that volume is higher than usual when touching low.
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  • #47,529
  • Apr 26, 2013 10:04pm Apr 26, 2013 10:04pm
many thank to master Sonicdeejay and Prof TAH for this simple, elegant, beautiful system and chart.
Since i apply PVSRA and the way Pro Tah tread by multi entry with SonicR, i just realize is very profitable and profit i haven't emagine before. i am sorry for seldom post here because english is not my first language but i do folow and read this tread every day every time. as a sonicer i start a newbie by reading and studying all the post. i had some times got a question that i don't understand but i don't just ask why this and why that because TAH has always maintion that all that question already answer before, so just read and read all the post until i know the answer. realize that more i read more i get and understand this system. i have folow this forum about 2 years and i never switch to the other because i know in here i got what i want.
This is the result this month by apply PVSRA
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FROM ZERO TO HERO
  • #47,530
  • Apr 26, 2013 10:21pm Apr 26, 2013 10:21pm
Quoting forexisfine
i have folow this forum about 2 years
tight spread good result , broker apa pak, insta apa fxclear xopen?
  • #47,531
  • Apr 26, 2013 10:47pm Apr 26, 2013 10:47pm
masterforex, not regulated broker. always disconected and many touble when big news release
FROM ZERO TO HERO
  • #47,532
  • Apr 26, 2013 10:48pm Apr 26, 2013 10:48pm
Quoting baokydev
Just a question on PVSRA.. Recently i use this on USD/CAD but it does not fare really well.. not sure if I interpret wrong or something else make it goes wrong. {image} I realize there is some high volume at low previously, but it seems usd cad just keep falling.. I am unsure whats went wrong . Would be good if someone can tell me what did i interpret wrongly on PVSRA as i circle that volume is higher than usual when touching low.
Inter-day Price Swings are a PVSRA Consideration

baokydev, one thing you might have forgotten, or maybe had not read that I stated on some posts this month, is that the inter-day swing is a PVSRA consideration. Prices tend to swing in 100+, 150+, 200+, etc. pip moves over some days. If price has just begun a swing down the MMs could well be new bears. On the other hand, once such a swing has made at least the minumum progress, and more so as progress continues, the MMs could then turn bulls.

In your case price has just started an inter-day swing down.

Sometimes PVSRA results in mixed signals, a sign to factor in other considerations such as the inter-day swing consideration. Sometimes nothing is clear anyway. This is caused by the market, not a failing of PVSRA. Just wait, don't trade, continue to analyze until clear results again show up, and then set your strategy for trading.

I'v included a chart that shows the MMs are bears, repeately driving price above the whole number to add shorts up there and to start heavy sell offs from there......up and down repeatedly building a short position without letting the price fall until they were ready to initate their run to build in profits.

I recommend you read all my trade posts and other posts on PVSRA from the beginning of April. And then stay up with them, catching up each time you return to the thread. PVSRA is a work in progress. I post the progress as it happens. If you miss a post you might miss a key element. Sorry, but that is the way it is until this work is finished and a finalizing document can be generated.

And let me repeat, for all, PVSRA is an analysis method taking into account price, volume and S&R, all the key elements of trading, and for the purpose of determining if the MMs are bulls or bears. The result is intended to be used to better decide how to trade Classic setups, and to better select Scout entries. It is not intended to change the Sonic R. System, but to improve it.

-tah
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  • #47,533
  • Apr 26, 2013 11:00pm Apr 26, 2013 11:00pm
Good post, Macedonia!

You are finally putting some work into this instead of just asking questions!

I still recommend you continue reading instead of typing. More fruit for you that way.

-tah
  • #47,534
  • Apr 26, 2013 11:57pm Apr 26, 2013 11:57pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Inter-day Price Swings are a PVSRA Consideration baokydev, one thing you might have forgotten, or maybe had not read that I stated on some posts this month, is that the inter-day swing is a PVSRA consideration. Prices tend to swing in 100+, 150+, 200+, etc. pip moves over some days. If price has just begun a swing down the MMs could well be new bears. On the other hand, once such a swing has made at least the minumum progress, and more so as progress continues, the MMs could then turn bulls. In your case price has just started an inter-day...

Thanks Prof.Tah
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  • #47,535
  • Edited 9:20pm Apr 27, 2013 1:22am | Edited 9:20pm
Upload a PDF named Tradeathome PVA, I just included as many Pro tradeathome'posts as possible. It has 68 pages.
After I studied these pages, its becoming very easier to figure out how and why price moves next. So, sharing it now with those are also willing to study on volume.
Thanks again to Great Master sonicdeejay and Great Professor tradeathome for all these wonderful works.
Hope it helps...

Sharing is Caring!

New version is available now.
The PDF is renamed as PVSRA. I put in some new pics that I missed and some discriptions about PVA.
Please download this new one and replace the old.
This PDF is not finished yet. It will be open to get more stuff to fill in.
If any of you guys like share your analysis , then post with pics please. Let's finish it together.
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  • #47,536
  • Apr 27, 2013 2:24am Apr 27, 2013 2:24am
Quoting jackywang5
upload a pdf named tradeathome pva, i just included as many pro tradeathome'posts as possible. It has 68 pages. After i studied these pages, its becoming very easier to figure out how and why price moves next. So, sharing it now with those are also willing to study on volume. Thanks again to great master sonicdeejay and great professor tradeathome for all these wonderful works. Hope it helps... Sharing is caring! {image}


thanks for this , i will request to tah, to post this file to post one... Add some discription..
  • #47,537
  • Apr 27, 2013 2:39am Apr 27, 2013 2:39am
Quoting traderathome
Good post, Macedonia! You are finally putting some work into this instead of just asking questions! I still recommend you continue reading instead of typing. More fruit for you that way. -tah
Actually, I sincerely apologise that was not necessary on my behalf.

I will delete them inorder to clean up the thread for any unnecessary posts.

We got off on the wrong foot, Mabe one day we will have something more positive to say to each other.

All the best.
  • #47,538
  • Apr 27, 2013 3:01am Apr 27, 2013 3:01am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} As I pointed out, only three out of all 112 of the trade parts closed for a loss, -28.0, -00.6, and -09.4 pips. It averages -12.6 pips per loss. Yet, all 112 trades, including those 3 that lost, averaged out at 70.5 pips gain per trade.
What i want to know is: DURING a trade, before closing it, how many pips you have been losing at most ?
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  • #47,539
  • Apr 27, 2013 3:21am Apr 27, 2013 3:21am
Quoting jackywang5
Upload a PDF named Tradeathome PVA, I just included as many Pro tradeathome'posts as possible. It has 68 pages. After I studied these pages, its becoming very easier to figure out how and why price moves next. So, sharing it now with those are also willing to study on volume. Thanks again to Great Master sonicdeejay and Great Professor tradeathome for all these wonderful works. Hope it helps... Sharing is Caring! {image}
Thank you jackywang for your gracious efforts.

Thanks to sonicdeejay tradeathome for the contents in this PDF (assuming its their work)

I second the idea by irfanhashim that this would be great if its placed in post 1.
  • #47,540
  • Apr 27, 2013 3:57am Apr 27, 2013 3:57am
Hi All

I haven't posted in this thread yet, that's mainly due to the fact i've been ploughing my way through a 3000 + page thread trying to understand the system. Anyway, Kudos to Jackywang for the pdf that is going to help me a lot and thanks to Sonic for the system and to TAH ( I promise to read all your posts before asking any stupid questions).
I've only made 3 trades on demo with this system so far (classic entries) and all on EU yesterday with a result of 70 pips profit. So, I have a lot of reading to do, Happy Trading all.
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