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  • #47,181
  • Apr 24, 2013 2:34am Apr 24, 2013 2:34am
Quoting JRissa
EJ Short scout entry EP1. Based on PVSRA analysis. EP 129.50 SL 130.35 {image} {image}
Closed trade for +15pips profit.

After yesterdays spike down, I got unsure if we were at top price yet. Thinking that price might go above next full number first.

So now waiting for Sonic R setup to form down, or scout if price gets above full number.
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  • #47,182
  • Apr 24, 2013 2:37am Apr 24, 2013 2:37am
After the master class that TAH is giving us about volume analysis, I´m still missing one thing to complete all the lesson:

How to identify a change in MM's from bulls to bears or from bears to bull?

In the last weeks we saw how you use your analysis to confirm "x/x are bulls/bears" but I think you never posted what do you do to identify possible changes in MM's behaviour and I believe it can be soooo interesting a post about that. Maybe not now of course because markets are moving a lot but maybe the weekend or something, what do you think prof?

Best, Tymedu.
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  • #47,183
  • Apr 24, 2013 2:40am Apr 24, 2013 2:40am
I see EU having a good long setup on M1, am I right?
“A year from now you will wish you had started today.” -Karen Lamb
  • #47,184
  • Edited 2:58am Apr 24, 2013 2:42am | Edited 2:58am
Quoting Tymedu
After the master class that TAH is giving us about volume analysis, I´m still missing one thing to complete all the lesson: How to identify a change in MM's from bulls to bears or from bears to bull? In the last weeks we saw how you use your analysis to confirm "x/x are bulls/bears" but I think you never posted what do you do to identify possible changes in MM's behaviour and I believe it can be soooo interesting a post about that. Maybe not now of course because markets are moving a lot but maybe the weekend or something, what do you think...
When I come to the computer, I analyze to see what they are now. I really don't care when they changed. However, think in terms of the standard inter-day swings I've mentioned so often. If one were looking to maybe see when MMs change, at the end of any of those various length moves might be the time to watch and see. Inter-day swings are birthed at S&R areas and they die at S&R areas.

BTW, this is why sometimes trading with a Scout before a Classic is the proper thing to do, although some folks just can't seem to grasp that concept. Of course, it is more risky, but the rewards are far greater, too, if one catches the beginning of a new inter-day swing in the opposite direction, or even the beginning of a retrace move in the current inter-day swing, or the end of that retrace move. But this is a different topic.
  • #47,185
  • Apr 24, 2013 2:49am Apr 24, 2013 2:49am
Quoting bogdan89
I see EU having a good long setup on M1, am I right?
Answer is yes and no...

If you are looking for Classic Sonic R setup, then definately no.

If you are looking for bottom entry with PVSRA, then maby, but I'd say maby too early.

If you are building long position with MM's, I'd say definately yes.

There are high impact EUR news coming in 15min, so it might be that those news push the price even lower. Then again, those news might start the MARK UP.

It is being said many times, that for highest propability setup, first define with PVSRA if the MM's are bulls or bears. After that, wait for proper Sonic R setup to form. That way you have momentum already on your side.

Here you can see highest volumes and position building with high volume at lows on EU. Then again, there haven't yet been the break thrue volume candle to estimated direction. I will keep an eye for that one and post here what I mean, when I see it.

Edit: I need to leave screen, so can't be part of this trade
I'll reply after I get back.
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  • #47,186
  • Apr 24, 2013 2:55am Apr 24, 2013 2:55am
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Quoting traderathome
{quote} AU Long Trade: Added long #8, Scout. M1 PVSRA shows price lowered (price consideration), volumes increased (volumes consideration) and when MMs moved price below half number again (S&R consideration), confirming MMs remain bulls and are lowering price to add longs. {image}

I always believe that it is primed for the ride up,,,

But it is you are way too exposed Sir... as the trading goes,, it can go the another way as well...


Sonic
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  • #47,187
  • Apr 24, 2013 2:56am Apr 24, 2013 2:56am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} Answer is yes and no... If you are looking for Classic Sonic R setup, then definately no. If you are looking for bottom entry with PVSRA, then maby, but I'd say maby too early. If you are building long position with MM's, I'd say definately yes. There are high impact EUR news coming in 15min, so it might be that those news push the price even lower. Then again, those news might start the MARK UP. It is being said many times, that for highest propability setup, first define with PVSRA if the MM's are bulls or bears. After that, wait for proper...
Ok, thanks for explaining!
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  • #47,188
  • Apr 24, 2013 2:59am Apr 24, 2013 2:59am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} Closed trade for +15pips profit. After yesterdays spike down, I got unsure if we were at top price yet. Thinking that price might go above next full number first. So now waiting for Sonic R setup to form down, or scout if price gets above full number. {image}

My Wednesday Morning snack..

I do not like to scalp...but..



Sonic
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  • #47,189
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:00am Apr 24, 2013 3:00am
Quoting bogdan89
I see EU having a good long setup on M1, am I right?
You know Sonic's rule, "No pic., no post."
  • #47,190
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:02am Apr 24, 2013 3:02am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} You know Sonic's rule, "No pic., no post."
Sorry TAH, I just started.
“A year from now you will wish you had started today.” -Karen Lamb
  • #47,191
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:02am Apr 24, 2013 3:02am
Lovely.. dive in Ej..


More slide will come.. if 128.8x lvl taken out..

*Manage along.. Do not take profit the profit and run..


Sonic
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  • #47,192
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:05am Apr 24, 2013 3:05am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Long Trade: Added long #3, Scout. And so, per M1 PVSRA, the MMs have pushed price even lower (Price consideration), again resulting in higher volumes at the new lows (Volume consideration), and all this is still happening below the whole number (S&R consideration), continuing to confirm the MMs are bulls and are lowering price to add longs. BTW, late US session is low activity time and that makes it less expensive for the MMs to do these price manipulations. So, my Classic long now has two supporting Scouts to back it up! {image}
EU Long Trade:

Added long #4, Scout. MMs dropped price, volume increased, etc., PVSRA.
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  • #47,193
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:10am Apr 24, 2013 3:10am
Quoting sonicdeejay
More slide will come.. Sonic {image}
Styloooo .......

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  • #47,194
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:18am Apr 24, 2013 3:18am
Quoting traderathome
GJ Short Trade: Entered short #1, Scout. M1 PVSRA shows price raised (price consideration) followed by higher volumes (volume consideration) and all above the half number, and then moving above the 3/4 number (S&R considerations). A Classic trade might normally occur first, with supporting Scouts if MMs work price against trade temporarily. When they add, we add. In this case the price high is a notable high and so the Scout entry opportunity precedes a Classic. {image}
In the case of pairs like this (EJ, UJ...), candle covers almost any whole AND quarter number. How to know the MM right side?
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  • #47,195
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:19am Apr 24, 2013 3:19am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Long Trade: Added long #4, Scout. MMs dropped price, volume increased, etc., PVSRA. {image}
I think I understand why professor add long here...but do not overexpose..okay??


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  • #47,196
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:30am Apr 24, 2013 3:30am
Quoting fex
{quote} In the case of pairs like this (EJ, UJ...), candle covers almost any whole AND quarter number. How to know the MM right side? {image}
Suppose move is up. If even just the wick of a candle breaks up thru the whole number that is a big PVSRA event. In just an instant that such as that happens, even just one trade up there could be for millions of dollars of currency! I give the benefit of doubt to the MMs there, and call them bears, either closing longs or opening shorts, or both. PVSRA has not been wrong yet, even one time calling bulls or bears!

However, there is always a first time. And I have been wrong before on other matters. This however, seems a slam dunk success.

So, you get the idea. It is not so much the region the candle overlays that is important, it is the region the end of the candle strikes into that is most important!
  • #47,197
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:37am Apr 24, 2013 3:37am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Suppose move is up. If even just the wick of a candle breaks up thru the whole number that is a big PVSRA event. In just an instant that such as that happens, even just one trade up there could be for millions of dollars of currency! I give the benefit of doubt to the MMs there, and call them bears, either closing longs or opening shorts, or both. PVSRA has not been wrong yet, even one time calling bulls or bears! However, there is always a first time. And I have been wrong before on other matters. This however, seems a slam dunk success....
Ok, thank you very much, it's clear. I will try to follow the rules of analysis for the pair PVSRA GJ. Let's see what the future holds.
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  • #47,198
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:42am Apr 24, 2013 3:42am
Quoting fex
{quote} In the case of pairs like this (EJ, UJ...), candle covers almost any whole AND quarter number. How to know the MM right side? {image}
The bigger the volume candle(s) the more significant, larger timeframes more significant.

I must admit to taking my profits on GJ and EJ pairs this morning, but would like to see some more top action and re-short. I do not yet have the stomach for the longer fight and bigger drawdowns. GJ looks undecided at the moment. That last spike down needs follow through to confirm a downtrend and at thge moment it has not got it, in fact there was more buying as I see it, hopefully back up to highs before coming down. You must decide for yourself from what you see and make your calls according to your trading strategy.

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Edit: Didn't see TAH's reply but bow to his long view.
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  • #47,199
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:50am Apr 24, 2013 3:50am
Thanks revoli , those are the classic rules of volume, but I want to test the system PVSRA of prof. TAH, only in a pair and demo account (demo account I operate only at the moment).
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  • #47,200
  • Apr 24, 2013 3:52am Apr 24, 2013 3:52am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GJ Short Trade: Added short #2, Scout. M1 PVSRA shows price raised (price consideration) followed by higher volumes (volume consideration) and all above the whole number (S&R consideration), confirming MMs are bears and are raising the price to add shorts. {image}
GJ Short Trade:

Added short #3, Scout. Same reasons.
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