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  • #47,101
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:11am Apr 23, 2013 9:11am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} Profit taken at marked price {image}
Nice trades JRissa, you were right Good job
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #47,102
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:14am Apr 23, 2013 9:14am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} ArtfulDodger, It is still experimenting with PVSRA and I see putting a lot of emphasis on the M1 volume climax .... I stick to PASR + VSA, proven and tested over and over again...it is evergreen trading method. Just put uour own proven money management and know how to manage for maximum profit run. Learn to cut loss, learn to build up positions and not averaging down by adding to losing positions. What is also very important is the mental fitness and that we have to manage ourselves as a trader. regards,
Thanks for taking the time to reply, Emmanuel.

It seems clear that TAH has had an epiphany with PVSRA. I've followed his posts from the beginning of the thread, and his tone just feels "different" now to me. I am certainly looking forward to his future posts and,
when it comes, his explanation as to what it is and how it works for him. It seems like a variation that is
similar to scout trades. Whatever it is, it seems to be noticeably different and the pips seem to be coming
by the bucket-load now!

I have the utmost respect for TAH and his efforts in the thread. Nobody has devoted as much time and
effort as he has. The templates are a thing of beauty - and they just keep getting better. My hat is off
to him for sure!

  • #47,103
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:14am Apr 23, 2013 9:14am
Do I remember right that -tah's UJ shorts are still open ?
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #47,104
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:16am Apr 23, 2013 9:16am
Quoting foxybunny
{quote} I also unsure what is the interpretation of PVSRA. Also sticking with PA & SR and some form of VSA. But with TAH and Islander showing more of M1, I am starting to look more on the volume on M1 to see what is the difference of that versus M5 and M15. As things like prices and volume are fractal, I am just bringing the idea from M15 down to M5, and now down to M1 and cater for any differences. I can said that TAH and Islander do seem to be able to time their Exits much better on showing M1 charts.
The M1 always makes me nervous...

Things just happen too quickly for me there.

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  • #47,105
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:18am Apr 23, 2013 9:18am
EJ closed good , also GJ closed, goood
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  • #47,106
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:20am Apr 23, 2013 9:20am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} Profit taken at marked price {image}
Congrat JRissa..


Sonic
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  • #47,107
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:21am Apr 23, 2013 9:21am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} GU long scout trade EP2 added. {image} {image}
Profit taken at marked quarter number
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I know the secret...
  • #47,108
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:25am Apr 23, 2013 9:25am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} AU added long #3 {image}
Profit taken at marked price

Didn't have balls to wait quarter/full number after Master Sonicdeejays warning about weekly sentiment...
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  • #47,109
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:29am Apr 23, 2013 9:29am
UJ closed, good
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  • #47,110
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:38am Apr 23, 2013 9:38am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} Thanks for taking the time to reply, Emmanuel. It seems clear that TAH has had an epiphany with PVSRA. I've followed his posts from the beginning of the thread, and his tone just feels "different" now to me. I am certainly looking forward to his future posts and, when it comes, his explanation as to what it is and how it works for him. It seems like a variation that is similar to scout trades. Whatever it is, it seems to be noticeably different and the pips seem to be coming by the bucket-load now! I have the utmost respect for TAH and...

ArtfilDodger,

Likewise, I do have great respect for THA for all his time and effort in developing and combining some indicators for SonicR. A lot of ime in making those indcators looks good even when we switch TF and the minute details he put into them. He is a very good mql4 rpogrammer obviously knows MT4 inside/out. I would nominate THA for an oscar if there is one for MT4 development and support.

He trade very differently using sonicr scout trades. It is like grid trading with the TAH twist.
Building up positions and averaging down are two differet things. But he seems to average down all his losing trades and wait for the tunraround to come.... sometimes he waits for weeks, even months as he posted above. Well if he has deep pockets to handle those drawdowns, that's his money. I read this thread from the start in 2008 and kept pace. TAH always has to have his last words whatever the matter is. Never fails to surprise me whenever he responds to members posts - be it good, bad, ugly, dirty, ... he has his answers. Uniquely TAH.

I know traders have lost their shirts many times doing this sort of grid trading.
I am a gridder and I do it differently. Google "Blessing3" and you will find out what I mean.

Anyway, I am watching how this TAH PVSRA experiment moves along and learnng the technical part with volume interpretation only. Nothing more than just volume reading.

Good to have someone here and exchange views openly. These should help Sonic bring out the best in all traders.

Regards,
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #47,111
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:43am Apr 23, 2013 9:43am
AU lcosed, not good
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  • #47,112
  • Edited 10:49am Apr 23, 2013 9:44am | Edited 10:49am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} ArtfilDodger, Likewise, I do have great respect for THA for all his time and effort in developing and combining some indicators for SonicR. A lot of ime in making those indcators looks good even when we switch TF and the minute details he put into them. He is a very good mql4 rpogrammer obviously knows MT4 inside/out. I would nominate THA for an oscar if there is one for MT4 development and support. He trade very differently using sonicr scout trades. It is like grid trading with the TAH twist. Building up positions and averaging down are...
Emmanuel, heard people mentioning about Grid Trading, what is is actually?

Are Grids mean they enter at different price levels even though price goes against their initial entries??
  • #47,113
  • Apr 23, 2013 9:57am Apr 23, 2013 9:57am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} You call it "interesting". I call it a pain in the ass. I am getting better at this, a lot better. I've had some trades that went against me that I held for many months, some many many months before making profit. It was terrible trading, and I still have a few of those. Yet, a silver lining exists in every cloud. Mistakes and hardships can serve as motivation to keep on keeping on, until one eventually arrives at a better place if they don't quit first. This is my fourth week into what I consider a breakthru in technique. And I am still...
Bravo Prof. Tah, the results are awesome i gained 26% of my account so far. keep up the great work professor.
Price Is The Best Indicator Itself.
  • #47,114
  • Apr 23, 2013 10:36am Apr 23, 2013 10:36am
TAH Dont you see that green dotted line??....maybe you need to go to the ophthalmologist.....and yes that is a trade...a coherent trade.
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  • #47,115
  • Apr 23, 2013 10:48am Apr 23, 2013 10:48am
EU Long Trade:

Entered Classic SonicR long late in LS. While the M15 PA picture is of a "down trend" EU might now be re-aligning with GU, with both moving back higher in days to come. We will see, but price was pulled back to local S&R (now support) and immediately bounced back up. Now it remains to be seen if price will move back up thru the higher local S&R (currently untested as resistance). SL is mental, but in the area of consolidation just below the whole number. If price plummets thru that I will likely be out of the trade unless a PVSRA at that time demonstrates the MMs are bulls simply bringing the price down again to add longs.

BTW, PVSRA is not just a volume analysis as emmanuel7788 just recently misstated. It is an analysis of price & volume together with S&R, and the "together with S&R" is what makes it different and exceptionally reliable, and a far cry from just an interpretation of volume. I have been saying this for weeks, and I don't understand why some here continue to misinform others about what it is I am doing. If you want to know what I am doing then read my posts. I put a lot more effort into them than do others that set themselves up as "interpretors" of what I do. This will help you to not be misinformed.
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  • #47,116
  • Apr 23, 2013 10:52am Apr 23, 2013 10:52am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} The M1 always makes me nervous... Things just happen too quickly for me there. -
Just Observe the M1 volume, you don't have to trade based on it.

If you happen to hold the trade for like 1-2 days then may not need to look at M1.

I am looking at M1 to see if can set a smaller initial SL for entries, and to see how to time for better exits.
  • #47,117
  • Apr 23, 2013 10:57am Apr 23, 2013 10:57am
UJ:

Enter short scout @99.5 based on triple top in m15 and high volume around that zone. SL above 100, no TP at the moment.

I will add another scout if the price goes above 99.50 and the volume analysis and PA are interesting.

Feedback?
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  • Edited 11:10am Apr 23, 2013 10:57am | Edited 11:10am
Quoting Amadeus8
TAH Dont you see that green dotted line??....maybe you need to go to the ophthalmologist.....and yes that is a trade...a coherent trade. {image}
Just putting lines on the chart is meaningless. They must be labeled. Please do label them, and please do follow the color coding we all should be using for the lines:

EP = black or blue on white chart, white or blue on black chart
TP = green
SL = red

Consistency in the use of these colors is a tremdous aid to student Sonicers studying charts. We do a wee bit more care in preparing our charts so as to help others, and not just slap something together that only pleases ourselves. That is the sign of a true Sonicer.

It seems totally outrageous that I should be criticized by others after all that I do, when then they don't even take the time to perform to the most elementary of etiquette here.
  • #47,119
  • Apr 23, 2013 11:01am Apr 23, 2013 11:01am
Quoting Tymedu
UJ: Enter short scout @99.5 based on triple top in m15 and high volume around that zone. SL above 100, no TP at the moment. I will add another scout if the price goes above 99.50 and the volume analysis and PA are interesting. Feedback? {image} {image}
Note the MMs took price above half number twice now in the early US session, and while price does not continuously remain above it, price is being cycled up/down now in a tight range in that area. I know you know the likely meaning of this.

I too would add if price gets above the half number again, but I already have my short positions.
  • #47,120
  • Apr 23, 2013 11:05am Apr 23, 2013 11:05am
Prof TAH, What about this huge volume?
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