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  • #46,781
  • Edited 3:51pm Apr 20, 2013 12:55pm | Edited 3:51pm
Quoting hansma
Some studies on the AU using volume study analysis. Have fun And know what goes on in the "background" Regards, H. {image} {image}
Hint by Hansma

This is an excellent observation, and a great hint to add to the usefullness of volume. Since we are talking volume here, be informed that the various SonicR volume indicators already released and upcoming (VSA, PV, PVA) are all very much the same and can be used equally effectively.

Now, a question. You say it works all the time. Are you talking only about what happens during the remainder of the Asian session, before the LS starts? Or are you including what happens in the LS also. I ask this question because do we not see many times when price is pushed down lower in the LS? I have added a chart on EU showing what I mean. The Asian session on March 27th respected the lows of preceding days, but once the LS began, the price was taken lower. Could you clarify?

Thank you, Hansma,
-tah
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  • #46,782
  • Apr 20, 2013 1:01pm Apr 20, 2013 1:01pm
Prof tah i swear to god i have read all the manuals of the latest templates i have spent hours on this thread for the past 15 days currently i am on page 114 and catching up, where are the instructions ? come on tah come on for the love of god if you provide me the link one last time !!
Quoting traderathome
Follow the instruction in the releasing post. That's all I'm going to say, because if you had done this in the first place you wouldn't be asking this question. Follow all the instructions! This is just further evidence you came here, downloaded, and began. You have not read even the basics of what you are using! You think you can just start without reading. As a consequence, you have elementary questions. Stop being so GD lazy! -tah
  • #46,783
  • Apr 20, 2013 1:07pm Apr 20, 2013 1:07pm
Quoting saiftauheed
Prof tah i swear to god i have read all the manuals of the latest templates i have spent hours on this thread for the past 15 days currently i am on page 114 and catching up, where are the instructions ? come on tah come on for the love of god if you provide me the link one last time !!
One Who Pays Attention to Details Reaps Benefits, One Who Doesn't Remains Ignorant!

If you have not come across the following, then you have more reading to do. If you do not obey the following you will have the sort of questions you have been having. 'Nuff said.

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Conclusion
These new indicators include more features, yet setup and use is simplified. The new Solid Dragon will give your charts a cleaner look. The user notes for each indicator have been meticulously written to instruct and to inform, and so to void any necessity to answer questions about the indicators.

Be advised: read the user notes instead of asking questions!
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You need to find where this is. Then you need to read the entirety of what you have found. Then you need to follow the instructions, all of them that you will have just read, to the letter!

-tah
  • #46,784
  • Apr 20, 2013 1:10pm Apr 20, 2013 1:10pm
Proffesor tah where is the gd user note , just tell me where is it which page is it ?? 0_0 just where the heck is it are you talking about the latest manuals posted on page no.1 if not so where is it please tell me tah pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee , I WON'T ASK YOU ANY MORE QUESTIONS TAH JUST TELL ME JUST TELL ME WHERE IS THE "USER NOTE"
Quoting traderathome
one who pays attention to details reaps benefits, one who doesn't remains ignorant! If you have not come across the following, then you have more reading to do. If you do not obey the following you will have the sort of questions you have been having. 'nuff said. Conclusion these new indicators include more features, yet setup and use is simplified. The new solid dragon will give your charts a cleaner look. The user notes for each indicator have been meticulously written to instruct and to inform, and so to void any necessity to answer questions...
  • #46,785
  • Apr 20, 2013 1:15pm Apr 20, 2013 1:15pm
Quoting saiftauheed
Proffesor tah where is the gd user note , just tell me where is it which page is it ?? 0_0 just where the heck is it are you talking about the latest manuals posted on page no.1 if not so where is it please tell me tah pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee , I WON'T ASK YOU ANY MORE QUESTIONS TAH JUST TELL ME JUST TELL ME WHERE IS THE "USER NOTE"
For reading the user notes, you need to go to MetaEditor and open those SonicR indicators. Each indicator contains user notes.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #46,786
  • Apr 20, 2013 1:17pm Apr 20, 2013 1:17pm
Quoting loeil
For reading the user notes, you need to go to MetaEditor and open those SonicR indicators. Each indicator contains user notes.
loeil I love you
  • #46,787
  • Apr 20, 2013 1:21pm Apr 20, 2013 1:21pm
Quoting saiftauheed
loeil I love you
Nice, I hope you are a man Otherwise I can't answer the same way We are here to teach and help each other.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #46,788
  • Apr 20, 2013 1:21pm Apr 20, 2013 1:21pm
Quoting saiftauheed
Proffesor tah where is the gd user note , just tell me where is it which page is it ?? 0_0 just where the heck is it are you talking about the latest manuals posted on page no.1 if not so where is it please tell me tah pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee , I WON'T ASK YOU ANY MORE QUESTIONS TAH JUST TELL ME JUST TELL ME WHERE IS THE "USER NOTE"

More information on entry at Sonic Version 3 PDF, although version R is different, but version 3 is a good head start on Dragon Angle. waves etc..

Version R the latest 1 got VSA and a cleaner look.
Trading is something special.
  • #46,789
  • Edited 1:50pm Apr 20, 2013 1:23pm | Edited 1:50pm
Quoting saiftauheed
would someone tell me a permanent fix for this bug when i zoom in the charts the dragon becomes a mess i can't see the price action inside it {image}
Quoting saiftauheed
Prof tah i swear to god i have read all the manuals of the latest templates i have spent hours on this thread for the past 15 days currently i am on page 114 and catching up, where are the instructions ? come on tah come on for the love of god if you provide me the link one last time !!
Quoting loeil
For reading the user notes, you need to go to MetaEditor and open those SonicR indicators. Each indicator contains user notes.
i swear to god i have read all the manuals of the latest templates....(Yeah, right.)

loeil, where to find the User Notes is clearly stated in the releasing post of the indicators, just two paragraphs from the bottom warning about following instructions! I have no patience for someone who has found the releasing post and downloaded the indicators and then has the sort of questions saiftauheed has. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that when he claims, "Prof tah i swear to god i have read all the manuals of the latest templates" he has not done it! I do not abide in lazyness and false claims.

Not too long ago in the past someone else tried to pull this bullshit on me, and I gave them a hard enough time that they they quit. Of course, they quit not because I gave them a hard time, but because they knew I wasn't buying their lies and they weren't interesting in being student and reading to get the answers themselves. Good riddence.

I didn't spend all those hundreds of hours creating the indicators and the instructions, just for the privilege of retyping them out again for each and every lazy ass person that comes here claiming to have read what I damn well know they didn't read.

Now, lets see if saiftauheed has the metal and dedication to survive. I hope he does. Then he can later handle such requests by others, having come to appreciation for what has been done here.

-tah
  • #46,790
  • Apr 20, 2013 1:29pm Apr 20, 2013 1:29pm
There is no way i can make you believe what i believe to have done it. man have some mercy on kids. i really did read all the manuals but was confused as to where to find the user note..oh yeh i have the metal to survive long enough. but seriously that was no bullshit please don't call it bullshit it hurts i am very emotional lol
Quoting traderathome
i swear to god i have read all the manuals of the latest templates....(Yeah, right.) loeil, where to find the User Notes is clearly stated in the releasing post of the indicators, just two paragraphs from the bottom warning about following instructions! I have no patience for someone who has found the releasing post and downloaded the indicators and then has the sort of questions saiftauheed has. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that when he claims, "Prof tah i swear to god i have read all the manuals of the latest templates" he has not done...
  • #46,791
  • Apr 20, 2013 1:32pm Apr 20, 2013 1:32pm
I am not a man but you can call me a young lad (likely) who started trading at 15 its been 3 years
Quoting loeil
Nice, I hope you are a man Otherwise I can't answer the same way We are here to teach and help each other.
  • #46,792
  • Apr 20, 2013 1:57pm Apr 20, 2013 1:57pm
Quoting saiftauheed
There is no way i can make you believe what i believe to have done it. man have some mercy on kids. i really did read all the manuals but was confused as to where to find the user note..oh yeh i have the metal to survive long enough. but seriously that was no bullshit please don't call it bullshit it hurts i am very emotional lol
Ok, No Bullshit. What Do You Want to Call it?

I submit the following that you claim to have read in the releasing post of the indicators. Seems very clear to me, but I have further highlighted for your benefit.......

Instructions on the Use of the Indicators
User notes are provided in the compile of each indicator, and are quite extensive in some cases. They will answer most questions. And questions not answered probably will be with just a little use of, and experimentation with, the inputs to these indicators. Please read and reflect on the user notes, and experiment with the inputs. Great pains have been taken to provide adequate user notes and instructions. Please don't ask questions already answered in the user notes simply because you have not bothered yourself to take the time to read them.

Once the indicators are installed into MT4 you can access the user notes. In the main MT4 window there is a yellow diamond icon with "i" in it. Click on it to open the MetaEditor, where you will find a list on the right that includes "indicators", where you will find the indicators you want to "open" in order to see the user notes at the top of indicator compile (code). Double click on any such indicator in the list and the code for it will appear in the MetaEditor window. You can scroll down the code to view. You will find user notes near the top.
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Now, once you get yourself up to speed, saiftauheed, I am appointing you with the responisbility to handle all such questions from all future newcomers. Enjoy!

-tah
  • #46,793
  • Apr 20, 2013 2:02pm Apr 20, 2013 2:02pm
Tah thanks a lot man, i am not gay but i love you more now. thanks now i will deeply get inside the system , Wake up in sonic R system, breathe in and out in sonic R system and sleep in sonicR system that is a promise that i shall fullfill this. i am a truly dedicated person and one day i will make millions with this system because this is the only way to the truth about making money that most people don't understand and don't worry about the newcomers i will handle them with responsibility and thanks again. sorry about my poor english i am half drunk
Quoting traderathome
Ok, No Bullshit. What Do You Want to Call it? I submit the following that you claim to have read. Seems very clear to me....... Instructions on the Use of the Indicators User notes are provided in the compile of each indicator, and are quite extensive in some cases. They will answer most questions. And questions not answered probably will be with just a little use of, and experimentation with, the inputs to these indicators. Please read and reflect on the user notes, and experiment with the inputs. Great pains have been taken to provide adequate...
  • #46,794
  • Apr 20, 2013 7:06pm Apr 20, 2013 7:06pm
Quoting traderathome
Good Weekend, Sonicers! After an exhausting week of more successful trading, when I finally turned in later in the evening here, I slept twelve hours. I awoke refreshed! On my second cup of coffee I logged into this thread to catch up on reading the posts (recommend all Sonicers always catch up on unread posts since lots of information gets posted that already answers the questions that are coming). So, in catching up I have seen the posts essentially warning others against my style of trading. It is ok with me that others point out the dangers...
As this thread been so popular, there are probably more beginner/intermediate traders(like trading live less than 2-years) or demo traders, who may easily influenced by the terrific amount of pips you win.

As you are an experienced trader, you now know what you are doing that is best suited for your trading personaliy, and indeed you have your own money management plan that you have yet to elaborate that will affect your results.
The concern of my post on Drawdown is not on those experienced traders such as yourself.

However, my concern are for those beginner/intermediate traders as they really got no idea what they are doing if they are following without thinking through what are the real Drawdowns that you have experienced for those trades and for such a long time.
These Drawdowns and Holding Time in trades are basically not usually mentioned in your trading posts, but is a major factor as well during trading.

I been there and done enough of those types of Scout trades without SL to know what happened when it does go wrong badly.
My trading style preference has been more on Scout-like trades than Sonic Classic and that is why I don't post charts much anymore as it is not as appropriate for this thread.

Don't want this thread to be only 1-sided story from you with such huge pips gains and little loss, when there are different sides of the trades that those beginner/intermediate traders are still unaware.

You know I have respect for you as a terrific contributor here even though we may differ in opinions.

Hope you are able to elaborate your money plan when you have time and when you wish to do so for other Sonicers.
For me it does not matter as I don't really need to know your money plan.
Again your description of money plan if you wish to describe should be able to help those Beginner/Intermediate traders.

As for trading, it really is the Exits and the Money Plan(Initial Capital, On-going Capital and Position Sizing), rather than just Entries, that is the major factor that affects the profit/loss the most.

Good trading to you and all Sonicers ahead.
  • #46,795
  • Apr 20, 2013 9:49pm Apr 20, 2013 9:49pm
Hello,


here is a VSA volume teacher I found in the forum link provided in a post above to FF member name Shamus thread .


quite interesting I thought as it explains how the read the volume bars.


the volume bars are the same but colored differently. the attached pdf explains these.


not sure there is similar explanation here in this thread which does the same to explanation of the sonicR VSA bars in simple terms, if any kind soul can shed some light here would be great help.


thank you.
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  • #46,796
  • Apr 20, 2013 9:53pm Apr 20, 2013 9:53pm
Quoting baokydev
More information on entry at Sonic Version 3 PDF, although version R is different, but version 3 is a good head start on Dragon Angle. waves etc.. Version R the latest 1 got VSA and a cleaner look.
baokydev,


thank you for pointing these out.
I shall pay attention when I continue to read this huge thread.
it will take me months, but I wont give up so soon. just need to find the time read.
  • #46,797
  • Apr 20, 2013 10:04pm Apr 20, 2013 10:04pm
Quoting Ravelt
Agree with both of u, for the others please, show some respect. nobody force you to follow how Prof TAH trade, it's your choice. Trading is a choice, Life is a choice. I choice to learn how Prof TAH and Master Sonicdeejay trade. if you feel like not it's up to you. Remember it's a choice Ravelt


Ravelt,


I do agree with you that trading style is an individual's choice and more of a preference how we want to trade with real money. I am new here with only very few posts like you.
But I read the thread regularly and trying hard to catch up as much as possible. I don't read of any disrespect made by an specific members. I read there are some strong views expressed by older FF members in the past. Views may be opposing to some different ways in trading, and it is good to have some robust discussions here in thread using sonicR and VSA. Name calling and rudeness has not place in our FF community. There are FF rules one paramount rule which is that all members must show mutual respect one toward another.


Do you agree with me on these?
  • #46,798
  • Apr 20, 2013 10:15pm Apr 20, 2013 10:15pm
Quoting Redddz
i have been closely watch every trade of professor TAh, and i highly appreciate what he is doing. and as for hater, i think they should leave this thread if they are only here to criticize.


Hi Reddz,


I agree with you I too appreciate TAH work here and the same I like you watch closely the way TAH trades and I follow those charts he posted with buy entry lines. He is doing a good job to post those charts in realtime following the market'actively. This is realtime trading and it either can be demo or live trading with real money. Each member has look at it this way and not make any conclusion.
I do not agree that there are haters in this thread. Just some members have different views and they are also sharing here. Why do you ask these members to leave this thread? This thread owner is sonicdeejay and I trust that he will make the decision how he want members to share and care for others using his sonicR system.
Please do not tell anyone to leave this thread when they are sharing a much different view.
  • #46,799
  • Apr 20, 2013 11:13pm Apr 20, 2013 11:13pm
Quoting JRissa
If people would just read the thread and study, people would understand different trading methods used here. There's classic Sonic R way, Sonic scout way and then there's building positions the MM way. I think it was about week aho when Professor TAH explained different trading ways with Sonic R system very good. Different approaches with different styles, all successful if used right. I kept live trade explorer open to see for everyone 3 first weeks, while trading both Classic way and MM way. Both successfully and for me, the MM way was more comfortable....
Hi JRissa,
Thank you for sharing those trades you made.
I read above somewhere that you use hedging.
Is this to keep your account margin above critical level and avoid margin call when you suffer the drawdown suffered by those MM trades and you wait for the market to turnaround.

When you have time, can you explain how you use hedging along with the MM type trades.

Do you have a tool for making the hedge decision and calculations? like for example the risk reward, position size, entry levels, breakeven levels, exits levels, etc.

Very much appreciated to get your answers.

Thank you.
  • #46,800
  • Apr 20, 2013 11:37pm Apr 20, 2013 11:37pm
Quoting vtayha
Hi Reddz, I agree with you I too appreciate TAH work here and the same I like you watch closely the way TAH trades and I follow those charts he posted with buy entry lines. He is doing a good job to post those charts in realtime following the market'actively. This is realtime trading and it either can be demo or live trading with real money. Each member has look at it this way and not make any conclusion. I do not agree that there are haters in this thread. Just some members have different views and they are also sharing here. Why do you ask these...
thanks for taking time to write and im really sorry if i offended you or anyone, i guess i was harsh on them bc they immensely criticizing Prof. Tah which i and other didnt like, if they have a much different view on things then they dont belong to this thread, this thread is dedicated for SOnic R, scout trades, and it has simplified rules which has been mentioned years ago,
Just my view, im again sorry if i offended anyone
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