Sonic R. System

Prof Tah, don't get me wrong here i am not in any way trying to criticize you or your approch. being new to this thread i have been trying out the sonicRV3 the original template instead of your new template that only includes VSA volumes and scout trades instead of QQe,cci, and nvo indicator.! and you're mistaken if you think i got the system,you are master sonic wrong . i am following exactly as the rules he has mentioned in his manual pdf linked in post no.1 so there is no question about having the system wrong. maybe i have you wrong because i find your approach quite different from what master sonic deejay originally implemented on the start of this thread. well i too appreciate your contribution and all the efforts you make , maybe the new template works better(trend dragon and volume) instead of the old one but i have no idea how it works because well there are more than 3k pages on this thread and you can't expect me to complete it all in a short period of time apply it and start profiting.I am trying to master the old template instead of the new one!and could you please give the link to your scout trade manual ?

mastersonic i pm'd you a couple of days back could you please care to get back to me ?

foxybunny,

Good post.

My answer is NO.
I dont want to have to handle hudge drawdowns in my investments and trading accounts.
There is no reason to lose one's shirt (English saying) therefore we must learn to take losses by Cutting Losses quickly and when we are in profit, we Let Profit Run.

"Cut Losses short, Let profit Run"....this is easy to say, but very hard to do.
. first, it is not easy to do to cut loss. It not only hurt our pockets and ruin our hardearned money, but it also hurt our ego even more. Ego has no place in us as traders. Let profit run? it is about managing our greed and fear. There is a 'beast' in us.

To be successful as a trader, we need to be successful in our life. Everyone need to be able to tame that 'beast' inside us before we can be successful both in life and as a trader.

The title of this book cover below say exactly what we as traders need to do in our profession and practice as traders.

Regards,

Have a Good Weekend.

Volume Spread Analysis VSA:

A lot of questions and discussion lately on VSA.
If you are new trader or new to this mysterious stuff call VSA,
here is a short pdf on VSA BASICS taken from a thread in the Commercial Cnotent section in Forex Factory.
The thread link:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=157629

Go there, ask what and all you want. Members there will help you in this VSA.

In the pdf VSA BASICS attached, there is on page 20 description on "Stopping Volume".
This stopping volume is what sonicdeejay had added to his sonicR system. It works for me but it took me a long time to really digest this 'heavy' stuff because my brain had been corrupted with many old stuff I learned from forex gurus I paid for lessons. It took me a long time to un-learn many things over the last 25 years.
You take your time. Read and learn. Then you must practice, practice, practice .... there is no short cut. Learning is a good thing, it keep our brains active.

Have A Good Weekend.

Hi Guys,

I just found this thread and very interested to learn it, but its so many templates.
Can anyone please tell me which templates I should use? (SonicR, SonicRV2, SonicRV3 or Sonic by GuruKris)

Thank you very much,
Lydia

25 years ? o my gudness ..



simple bar and vol for you.. keep this picture, you will see similliar everyday friend..

Watching this,,,



Sonic

I still think it would be helpful if posters would place a vertical line at the location
where a trade was entered. It would eliminate a lot of searching and increase the
understanding of what transpired. (maybe beating a dead horse)

If people would just read the thread and study, people would understand different trading methods used here. There's classic Sonic R way, Sonic scout way and then there's building positions the MM way. I think it was about week aho when Professor TAH explained different trading ways with Sonic R system very good.

Different approaches with different styles, all successful if used right. I kept live trade explorer open to see for everyone 3 first weeks, while trading both Classic way and MM way. Both successfully and for me, the MM way was more comfortable. I made in first three weeks my account grow from 100€ to 1032€. So over 1000% growth in three weeks. Every drawdown with both ways was documented and posted.

After that, I was getting pile load of PM's and critisism about the way I traded (Professor TAH's MM way), so I decided to make explorer private. Everybody trades the way they want, but PLEASE; do not over critisize something that you don't understand. Why won't you guys just ask questions politely that worries you? Everything here is for help everybody and is FREE teaching.

And remember that Professor TAH just said, that he doesn't courage people to trade his way. It's under developement still, but documented to be 99.9% right so far. With Classic way, you always limit your maximum possible loss to level you can handle. It's easier to manage and you get no suprises. But imagine that there's a way you can win 100% of time Tempting, isn't it? Well I continue to follow and help, if I can, in developing MM way by posting my own trades and findings. Also trading the Classic way too.

Here is just one day with MM way documented earlier: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...43#post6573743

I feel sorry for Professor TAH to get all this bad feedback when he is doing everything to help people to be successfull. But there are us others also that are truly gratefull to both; Professor TAH and Master Sonicdeejay.

And lastly, one of the last days that I shared explorer before pile of critisism;

+1 and /clap for this sentence. TAH is doing all he can to teach us his method based on SonicR system and PVSRA. There are people who don't understand it, other simply don't like it, but at least you have to show some respect for a guy who has more than 13k post, most of them in this thread and most of them trying to explain and teach us. He is not obligated at all but he keeps doing it, so please respect.

Same with master Sonic, but I focus now on TAH because I don't understand those criticism.

Agree with both of u, for the others please, show some respect.

nobody force you to follow how Prof TAH trade, it's your choice. Trading is a choice, Life is a choice. I choice to learn how Prof TAH and Master Sonicdeejay trade. if you feel like not it's up to you. Remember it's a choice


Ravelt

I got a question..

What is the difference between VSA & PVA indicator...

Because i see Master Sonic still using VSA and Prof TAH using PVA , wonder if theres big difference between the 2 indicator.

Thanks for answering

OK - I'll give you a hand before you get a BIG REMINDER that YOU MUST READ THE THREAD. At minimum the first post and 50 pages and the last 50 pages AT A MINIMUM.

This question has been answered several times during the past week, so just read all of the last week's post's and you'll find the answer. I could give you a shortcut - but then you wouldn't learn as much

i have been closely watch every trade of professor TAh, and i highly appreciate what he is doing. and as for hater, i think they should leave this thread if they are only here to criticize.

Good Weekend, Sonicers!

After an exhausting week of more successful trading, when I finally turned in later in the evening here, I slept twelve hours. I awoke refreshed! On my second cup of coffee I logged into this thread to catch up on reading the posts (recommend all Sonicers always catch up on unread posts since lots of information gets posted that already answers the questions that are coming).

So, in catching up I have seen the posts essentially warning others against my style of trading. It is ok with me that others point out the dangers of trading, for any and all styles of trading, because all styles of trading do have their own dangers and it is good to be aware of them. I have also seen the posts by JRissa and Tymedu and Ravelt and Redddz, all gladening my heart because they address the postitive side of matters, in balance, and even more importantly they demonstrade mental maturity. Thank you, JRissa, Tymedu, Ravelt, Redddz.

I wish also to thank Islander, who took personal time to advise a new Sonicer asking a question about which thousands of words in answer have already been posted. Thank you, Islander!

To keep things on the right track and in perspective, here following are some addtional statements regarding some of the new posts.

foxybunny & drawdowns
Funny you should be posting on this because I have been recently wondering if I should bother to try and lay out a money management plan regarding this style of trading. I have decided it would be very premature to do so at this time, but I did recently apply some math to it and came up with an interesting observation. If a $2,000 account were opened up and if the trader traded micro lots (10 cents per pip) they could have forty open trades, all down by the maximum typical drawdown of the worst trade in a group and still not use up half the margin, based on the restrictive margin maximum here in the USofA. No doubt few traders would have anywhere near forty open trades, and no doubt all of them would not be even close to the drawdown of the worst trade in any group! So, there is a lot of wiggle room here, a lot! I am still not suggesting anyone else trade this way, but I am doing so successfully and under the worst of conditions since I cannot hedge (without using multiple accounts) and I cannot close trades in any order that I might like to since USofA traders are restricted to closing trades based on the FIFO rule (first in, first out). I am not hedging and I am abiding by the FIFO rule as regards this point of interest. This past week I closed 31 trades for 2,160 pips. Had they been micro lot trades they could easily have been supported by a $2,000 account under the most severe conditions described, and with the $216 result being over a 10% return. Please do not ask me about such matters as risk to rewards per trades. I don't pay attention to that. Please do not ask me about such things as 1%, 2%, 5% maximum risk calculations, as I pay no attention to that either, though any trader could do so simply by limiting to far less than 30 open trades at a time, and accepting less than a 10% return in a week.

emmanuel7788 & VSA
You know full well, from all the information on the SonicR VSA that I have taken great time to compose and post on this thread with never a hint of disagreement about it from Master Sonicdeejay, that our SonicR VSA is nothing like the commerical VSA! Why do you lead others astray from the Sonic R. System once again under the pretext of answering their questions about the SonicR VSA? This is the sort of posting that smacks of an attempt to undermine the work of Master Sonicdeejay and myself, under the pretext of "helping" others. All you are doing is helping others waste their time going out and getting information that has nothing to do at all with SonicR VSA and the way it is to be used within the Sonic R. System. And you prefer to do this than to refer to our information on the SonicR VSA and simply answer the questions of others based on it! Maybe you don't like our SonicR VSA, so instead of anwering the questions asked about it, you lead folks off in another direction. That is not supporting the Sonic R. System, it is undermining it!

ArtfulDodger & Marking Trade Entries With Vertical Lines
If one could be assured that a trade will be closed in time for both the entry and exit to appear on the standard M15 chart, yes, that might help others better see the overall picture. However, with my style of trading there is no such assurance, and many trades can be open for quite some time. This is the very reason that when I post the additions of trades I include the go-back link to the previous entry posted, and that when I post the trade conclusion I also include the go-back links to all parts of the trade. Really, if anyone wants to study them, they only have to go back to look at the trade entry posts! That is so simple to do, that anyone wanting more work done by the poster of trades to make it more simple, is simply asking for too much! You might try posting some trades yourself, entries, additions (if any) and conclusions. There is nothing like trying to do something yourself in order gain full appreciation of what is involved in the work being done by others.

Sonicers, I will catch up again later, meanwhile enjoy the weekend.

-tah

Thanks for the information, i got much more to catch up on VSA this weekend. Will be reading through your post and try analyze.

Have a good weekend.

would someone tell me a permanent fix for this bug when i zoom in the charts the dragon becomes a mess i can't see the price action inside it

Some studies on the AU using volume study analysis.

Have fun And know what goes on in the "background"

Regards,


H.

Follow the instruction in the releasing post. That's all I'm going to say, because if you had done this in the first place you wouldn't be asking this question. Follow all the instructions! If you have not come across the following, then you have more reading to do. If you do not obey the following you will have the sort of questions you have been having. 'Nuff said.

Conclusion
These new indicators include more features, yet setup and use is simplified. The new Solid Dragon will give your charts a cleaner look. The user notes for each indicator have been meticulously written to instruct and to inform, and so to void any necessity to answer questions about the indicators.

Be advised: read the user notes instead of asking questions!


-tah

very very very good analysis....very simple and straightforward...this is what I am looking for....thanks hansma